Micro 759: Tarot uPick III - Game Over!

[Porkens]

I don't think it's a competent townpost

unfortunately, that descriptor does not bar it from looking like what (to my memory) nks play looks like

What do you find incompetent about it?

[Dunkerdoodles]

uh hi
do i know you?
i've probably played with you i just don't remember sorry

I played scum against you in Titus's Old Music Playlist Mafia. I was in a hydra with NotTheRealPaul under the name Penn and Teller.

Oh that silly game
paul's seemed to disappeared, dunno where he went

[Yetichain]

Yeah he siteflaked immediately after that game think he was really busy with school from what I recall him saying.

Keychain, how did transcend know you were scrum in dinner party?

Spoiler: Donner quotes

K but for once can town not lynch the lynchbait on d1 and actually lynch the Mafia

Doggo, pretend I'm not a 5th level player and explain your keychain scumread?

VOTE: Assemblerotws

Naked votes are ehhhh.

I know as much as you do. Something about my first post was a scumclaim to him. Tone maybe?
I don't know why he was so incredibly certain, if that's what you're asking.

What made you change your mind from 193? It seems a lot like you're trying to gauge interest in someone you said you were leaning lynchbait on. NK15 doesn't seem to me like they're going to bleed town.


-Key

[nancy]

Key how would you feel if I said I was scumreading you?

[Yetichain]

I wouldn't be too surprised or anything, but I'd be interested to know why. I'm mostly townreading you. Though your posts are pretty dense.

[nancy]

Why not surprised?

[Yetichain]

Because I expect to get scumread at some point, especially early game. Do you think I should be surprised or something?

So far I've been a bit overexplainy regarding how I play and just kind of chilling, rather than actually scumhunting. Not exactly towntelling here.

Now that I've prepared an answer for you to give me, why would you be hypothetically scumreading my slot?


-Key

[nancy]

No idea if you should be surprised or not since I've not seen your play before, though you don't seem too too much like the kind of player to get scumread a lot as town.

I don't entirely scumread you, but I am entertaining it; a few small things that stand out like your interactions with Varsoon and your Porkens scumread that are kind of ??? on the level of like, I can kind of see where you're coming from if I squint really hard but mostly I just find it difficult to follow and understand how you're getting from A->B and what you're doing when you get there. Sort of in the same spot I've got Varsoon at the moment.

[nancy]

Porkens, what does it remind you of?

[Jabarkas Mayonnaise]

Nando and Not Clown seem tryhard to this Jabarkas. Maybe just how they play, maybe attempting to pass themselves off as town by saying a lot.
Piglet and Dinnernoodles can be town for now.
This Jabarkas is ok with other Jabarkas’ vote atm

-XL

Spoiler:

Before anyone asks, yes, Jabarkas must speak in Jabarkas-person. Varsoon never remembers.

[nancy]

Lol.

[acidphoenix]

@porkens the fact that he cares infinitely more about whether people are read-explainy than things that are actually significantly more likely to make people one alignment than the other

partially biased because of having prior games with him and knowing he essentially mostly just sticks to that

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Struggling to get into the game..

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why can’t town be guarded Yeti? Especially in a setup like this?

[drealmerz7]

ooogabooga, I haven't had the presence of mind/focus and energy for the game but with it being early D1 I'm not sweating it too much I'll have plenty of time to catch up and respond before long

LUV maybe you should replace out before it gets too much more into the game

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1-6

Not Known 15

(1): Dunkerdoodles

Lil Uzi Vert

(1): Jabarkas Mayonnaise

Jabarkas Mayonnaise

(1): Yetichain

Not Voting

(6): nancy, acidphoenix, drealmerz7, Not Known 15, Porkens, Lil Uzi Vert

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: December 18, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2017-12-17 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Lil Uzi Vert]

ooogabooga, I haven't had the presence of mind/focus and energy for the game but with it being early D1 I'm not sweating it too much I'll have plenty of time to catch up and respond before long

LUV maybe you should replace out before it gets too much more into the game

You’re right.

@Mod: Replace me. Sorry

[fferyllt]

Searching for a replacement for Lil Uzi Vert

[Not Known 15]

Lil Uzi Vert:
Largely unhelpful posts. Only one to completely skip questions. Strange reactions to motivation and then telling that motivation is very important(while not caring for motivation).Then we have the question about town being guarded. Is that intended to protect Porkens? How does Uzi know anything about the abilities of others, while it is Day 1 and nobody claimed? (Yes, you know that it is upick but one role should not give you so much info on the setup; while being on the scumteam could). They even didnt say why they thought otherwise(being guarded not indicative). Yes, I saw the replacement. But that does not make it better.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

[Porkens]

Yeah he siteflaked immediately after that game think he was really busy with school from what I recall him saying.

Keychain, how did transcend know you were scrum in dinner party?

Spoiler: Donner quotes

K but for once can town not lynch the lynchbait on d1 and actually lynch the Mafia

Doggo, pretend I'm not a 5th level player and explain your keychain scumread?

VOTE: Assemblerotws

Naked votes are ehhhh.

I know as much as you do. Something about my first post was a scumclaim to him. Tone maybe?
I don't know why he was so incredibly certain, if that's what you're asking.

What made you change your mind from 193? It seems a lot like you're trying to gauge interest in someone you said you were leaning lynchbait on. NK15 doesn't seem to me like they're going to bleed town.


-Key

I was rereading and got to that post and was again struck by its outstanding scumminess. No one else has commented on it, so I'm asking what y'all think about it directly. Are you all really ok with it? It screams scrum to me.

He has also posted since the lynchbait comment with no change in hue.

However, the majority of his wroth is pointed at me, so I'm going to bias against him. So far, only acid has given a response and it was confusing and milquetoast.

acid

can you please link your experience with not known?

[Porkens]

bye uzi

[Porkens]

@porkens the fact that he cares infinitely more about whether people are read-explainy than things that are actually significantly more likely to make people one alignment than the other

partially biased because of having prior games with him and knowing he essentially mostly just sticks to that

Could you link that experience please?

Also, why does the above make him incompetent town rather than incompetent scrum?

[Not Known 15]

@porkens the fact that he cares infinitely more about whether people are read-explainy than things that are actually significantly more likely to make people one alignment than the other

partially biased because of having prior games with him and knowing he essentially mostly just sticks to that

Could you link that experience please?

Also, why does the above make him incompetent town rather than incompetent scrum?

While I definitely do not care

infinitely more about whether people are read-explainy

I do have to say that I do care a good deal about people being unhelpful and not explaining reads. If someone says "gut read" then this does not help me much: I am unable to analyze whether I can believe them, I am unable to see what exactly seems wrong to them. Letting go unexplained reads and not explaining things in general allows scum to blend in and do the same, even if a town is doing it. If we have an open explanation everyone can look at that again and think for themselves. No explanations at all, on the other side, mean that the bad things someone spotted may get lost via nightkill or mislynch.

Porkens, I am not seeing "outstanding scuminess" there. That post does have one useless comment about siteflak, and you leaning lynchbait says leaning, not "is lynchbait", that's something else. But that could be a misunderstanding? Additionally, I do not know what they mean with

NK15 doesn't seem to me like they're going to bleed town.

but that's possibly my inexperience.
The post does not look particularly good to me, but I am missing the big scuminess there. What does look bad here?

Keychain I want to know from you what this phrase means, if no one else answers first.

[Porkens]

Porkens, what does it remind you of?

cabd's gambit in board games, I thought you spectated that?

[Porkens]

@porkens the fact that he cares infinitely more about whether people are read-explainy than things that are actually significantly more likely to make people one alignment than the other

partially biased because of having prior games with him and knowing he essentially mostly just sticks to that

Could you link that experience please?

Also, why does the above make him incompetent town rather than incompetent scrum?

While I definitely do not care

Why don't you care? I'm asking why he is townreading you and not scumreading you. If you drop the adjective, I'm asking him "why are you townreading him?" Isn't that exactly the kind of explanation you've been so adamant about getting out of people?

Porkens, I am not seeing "outstanding scuminess" there. That post does have one useless comment about siteflak, and you leaning lynchbait says leaning, not "is lynchbait", that's something else. But that could be a misunderstanding?

Like I wrote before, that post was forced. It seemed to me you felt pressure to post, and that you were reaching to say "anything" about each player. I've felt that kind of pressure more as scum than as town.

Secondly, there is at least one player who you give a total pass: "I like your posts so far", but you don't explain why.

Thirdly, your commanding/imperative tone rings false to me.