Open 699 - Pick your Poison - Town Win

[DeasVail]

Lemme check interactions and get back to you

What will you be looking for?

[ProHawk]

Who would make sense as scum together and who wouldn't. Positive and negative associations

[ProHawk]

I would just vote you and get the day to end but I'm not really feeling it that much. Did you ever reply to borings post?

[kelbris]

You say that you had yet to vote for me, but perhaps you wanted someone else to get the wagon going rather then starting it yourself. I never said that YOU voted for me, only that you were trying to convince others to vote for me, possibly in an attempt to point the finger at them for starting the wagon once I flipped.

[boring]

@Kelbris, I'd like your take on the meta I presented in post #1516. Have you had time to glance at it?

[boring]

But his enthusiasm would have been hard to fake.

Any perceived enthusiasm was unintentional.

That's why it was kind of adorable.

[boring]

I would just vote you and get the day to end but I'm not really feeling it that much. Did you ever reply to borings post?

Any reason in particular you're not feeling Deas? Who's your favorite for scum after Kelbris?

[boring]

I plan on reading Deas's and UCV's ISOs tonight, gotta take care of some stuff rn. Still waiting for an answer from Transcend (unless one was given and I missed it).

prodge, will read through ISOs and post reads on UCV and Deas ASAP.

[kelbris]

Here are my reads of the lynch pool, using the whole game's info.

boring: starting to lean towards him being town, I really like his early-game play such as post #437, as well as post #1516 (which I didn't really check the links of until now admittedly). Which actually explains why he went after Deas-he has played with him before/went through his previous games, something which I never really thought of doing myself.

ProHawk: still suspect him as scum, primarily because of the way his slot acted in the past, I also admit that I dislike his "i am scum for him now" post as being his reason to vote for me.

fish: town, haven't seen anything REALLY incriminating on him to be honest.

Deas: this is where my opinion changes drastically, I am convinced that he is scum, comparing his play in this game to the games that boring linked (thanks for that btw) I agree that this is the scum!Deas that we are dealing with.

VOTE: Deas

[DeasVail]

uh what?

Anyway, I think that's the hammer. Good luck guys, my guess would be boring and then kelbris, given the weird 180 from liking my points on boring to then using a post of boring's as an excuse to change his read of me. I'm sorry that I didn't get into this game as much as I should have.

[ProHawk]

If that's a hammer you be still put boring first over Kelbris? Lol

[ProHawk]

Why don't you actually vote Kelbris with me instead?

[ProHawk]

You say that you had yet to vote for me, but perhaps you wanted someone else to get the wagon going rather then starting it yourself. I never said that YOU voted for me, only that you were trying to convince others to vote for me, possibly in an attempt to point the finger at them for starting the wagon once I flipped.

But you said I was trying to get you speed lynched, wouldn't that be difficult without voting?

[davesaz]

Vote Count 4.4

DeasVail(3) - boring, Fishythefish, kelbris
boring(1) - DeasVail
kelbris(1) - ProHawk

not voting (2) - mutantdevle, havingfitz

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch
(expired on 2017-12-12 22:00:00)

[kelbris]

I knew that was not a hammer, checked who had voted on Deas before I did so. Also, I suspected that you were trying to get someone else to start the ball rolling, this way when I flipped town, suspicion might be diverted to them. TL:DR I thought you were trying to get someone else to start a wagon, so you could slip on it later, such as say position #2 or 3, thereby appearing less scummy.

[Fishythefish]

@fitz, mutant: what are you thinking?

@kelbris: could you explain what you saw in DV's meta that changed your mind?

[havingfitz]

Still suspect DV. His faux-hammered parting post didn't diminish that.
If mutant didn't have a clear on ProHawk he'd be in my top 3 sr.
I'm wavering in Kelbris suspicions...coinflip between boring and Fish if Pro (via pr ~cleared) or DV aren't scum.

[ProHawk]

Wow, so Kelbris is in your top tier town pile huh fitz?

[ProHawk]

You can't tell that his reads are so flip-floppy his WIFOMing partner will be out in the wind?

[ProHawk]

ProHawk: scum-seems like he wanted to get me lynched

before I had a chance to come back from V/LA,

not even giving me a chance to make my reads list.

I suspected that you were trying to get someone else to start the ball rolling, this way when I flipped town, suspicion might be diverted to them.

Bolded and Underlined for Emphasis.

[ProHawk]

coinflip between boring and Fish if Pro

Does a boring and DV scum-team make sense to you?

[havingfitz]

Not really. I hadn't considered them.

[ProHawk]

You just said Kelbris was your least scum-read, I am at your top (but not scum), DV would be your lynch today and if scum that would still be a coin-flip for you between boring and fish?

[mutantdevle]

uh what?

Anyway, I think that's the hammer. Good luck guys, my guess would be boring and then kelbris, given the weird 180 from liking my points on boring to then using a post of boring's as an excuse to change his read of me. I'm sorry that I didn't get into this game as much as I should have.

I don't like this post. It feels forced and as though it is trying to give the impression "hey look at me, I must be town if I didn't confess to being scum after I thought I had been lynched." I'm fairly certain most people's first impressions to reading this was "he hasn't been hammered though..." I certainly knew you hadn't been lynched yet and I feel like everyone else would as well. After all, the difference between 3 or 4 votes isn't exactly hard to keep track of. My point is, this post doesn't feel as though you even believed you had just been hammered. This gives the impression you are scum looking for town cred. I can't help but think that if you were a townie who believed they had just been misslynched you'd have a bit more to say than this.

[Fishythefish]

^ I agree. My gut is that DV's post was a fake (and somewhat desperate) attempt to "townslip".

I'm around, but don't have much to say. I'd like to hear a bit more from kelbris about DV.