Micro 759: Tarot uPick III - Game Over!

[Not Known 15]

@porkens the fact that he cares infinitely more about whether people are read-explainy than things that are actually significantly more likely to make people one alignment than the other

partially biased because of having prior games with him and knowing he essentially mostly just sticks to that

Could you link that experience please?

Also, why does the above make him incompetent town rather than incompetent scrum?

While I definitely do not care

Why don't you care? I'm asking why he is townreading you and not scumreading you. If you drop the adjective, I'm asking him "why are you townreading him?" Isn't that exactly the kind of explanation you've been so adamant about getting out of people?

Porkens, I am not seeing "outstanding scuminess" there. That post does have one useless comment about siteflak, and you leaning lynchbait says leaning, not "is lynchbait", that's something else. But that could be a misunderstanding?

Like I wrote before, that post was forced. It seemed to me you felt pressure to post, and that you were reaching to say "anything" about each player. I've felt that kind of pressure more as scum than as town.

Secondly, there is at least one player who you give a total pass: "I like your posts so far", but you don't explain why.

Thirdly, your commanding/imperative tone rings false to me.

"I like your posts so far" does mean nothing more than that I did not have any concerns about their posts so far: No indication that they weren't trying to hunt scum(as opposed to faking that), explanations...
About that forced thing: I would have liked to do that later, but um... you know... it doesn't get better when you have to catch up more.
Picking everyone seems forced to you? Well, it was deliberately made that way it was- to include everyone to
1. affirm everyone that these are my reads
2. serve as fallback if I want to re-read
3. most importantly, they will show you where I came from; my first impressions. When I somehow die that can help you understand my thoughts and ideas better than me(because I cannot explain them anymore)
4. I get to write everything down and make sure that I don't forget to read someone correctly

[nancy]

Porkens, what does it remind you of?

cabd's gambit in board games, I thought you spectated that?

Nope! I was thinking of playing in it, but some people signed up that I didn't want to play with. I skimmed some of morph's posts when the game was over but don't remember much.

[Porkens]

readschart incoming.

[Porkens]

nancy

Jabarkas Mayonnaise (hydra of Varsoon and Xaio Long)

Yetichain (hydra of Keychain and Yeticrab)
drealmerz7

Not Known 15
dunkerdoodles
acidphoenix
Lil Uzi Vert

[fferyllt]

northsidegal replaces Lil Uzi vert. Please welcome her!

[Porkens]

Ohhh interesting

[northsidegal]

hey guys

what's shaking?

[Porkens]

Not a ton...

nancy is playing pretty close to the vest, but she's digging and looking at stuff.

Jabarkas Mayonnaise (hydra of Varsoon and Xaio Long) is wierding me out because he hasn't played as he usually has in my experience.

Yetichain (hydra of Keychain and Yeticrab) is being her friendly cheerful self, but I've only ever seen her as scum soooooooooo
drealmerz7 was super active out of the gate but then dried up and has promised to catch up later. (I know he is busy and stuff)

Not Known 15 is going hawrd but it seems like scattershot and meant to give a certain impression.
dunkerdoodles is dunkerdoodling around
acidphoenix is not really doing much other than answering questions directed at him
Lil Uzi Vert lurked, argued about theory, and replaced out

I'm reading fortunes, and no one has jumped down my throat about it (even Varsoon), so...victory?

[Dunkerdoodles]

porkens solid town
i'm getting mixed feelings on NK15
293 feels like a fabricated read imo but
297 and 300 have townie tone
idk

[nancy]

Not so outnumbered by the men now, this is good.

[nancy]

Also from what little I know of northsidegal she's a little more talkative than LUV, this is also good.

[northsidegal]

so dunk and nancy, who's scum?

[nancy]

You?

Do I win?

[northsidegal]

You?

Do I win?

sorry, the cards don't seem to be in your favor.

a few people seemed to be scumreading luv - could someone explain that for me?

[nancy]

>.>

[Jabarkas Mayonnaise]

It's because LUV had very little in the way of content despite being in the top five posters. A lot of what he did post was flighty and non-committal.
Then he replaced out.
I'm not really keen on giving a replacement a pass, myself.
I feel like, yes, you're not LUV, but you should still have to exonerate your slot.
Part of me is actually more critical of you for asking why people were scumreading LUV--it seems like something easy enough to find out (just read the last few pages, or any post where someone voted the slot) and it also strikes me as asking for a roadmap of what to do to appease people who are still scumreading the slot. For instance, now that you know I am scumreading your slot for being flight/non-committal, you might hope to turn that read around through direct engagement and committing to a wagon.

Spoiler Alert: I won't townread you for that alone.

-V

[Not Known 15]

It's because LUV had very little in the way of content despite being in the top five posters. A lot of what he did post was flighty and non-committal.
Then he replaced out.
I'm not really keen on giving a replacement a pass, myself.
I feel like, yes, you're not LUV, but you should still have to exonerate your slot.
Part of me is actually more critical of you for asking why people were scumreading LUV--it seems like something easy enough to find out (just read the last few pages, or any post where someone voted the slot) and it also strikes me as asking for a roadmap of what to do to appease people who are still scumreading the slot. For instance, now that you know I am scumreading your slot for being flight/non-committal, you might hope to turn that read around through direct engagement and committing to a wagon.

Spoiler Alert: I won't townread you for that alone.

-V

Indeed, my vote stays on Little Uzi Vert(now Northsidegal) for these reasons... and one additional reasoning(168)

[northsidegal]

i asked it more as a "jumping off point", to get discussion started. nobody responded as quickly as i would have hoped, but it's still fine. honestly, there was something i can't really explain about this game reading through that just made my eyes glaze over a bit when reading everything - that's why i wanted to try to sort people starting from my replace in moreso than from reading back through the thread.

[Jabarkas Mayonnaise]

It's because this game lacked any real conflict or passion, imo.
Whenever I catch up on 5+ pages in a game, I always gloss unless there's a really serious conflict happening, and, even then, if it's too verbose, I still skim it.

Basically, this game's been pretty toothless so far.

-V

[northsidegal]

Indeed, my vote stays on Little Uzi Vert(now Northsidegal) for these reasons... and one additional reasoning(168)

do you think luv's 173 isn't valid?

[northsidegal]

It's because this game lacked any real conflict or passion, imo.
Whenever I catch up on 5+ pages in a game, I always gloss unless there's a really serious conflict happening, and, even then, if it's too verbose, I still skim it.

Basically, this game's been pretty toothless so far.

-V

in the full interest of transparency i didn't have to catch up on the whole thread, i was already following along when i replaced in. i'm not sure how much that changes, though.

[Not Known 15]

Indeed, my vote stays on Little Uzi Vert(now Northsidegal) for these reasons... and one additional reasoning(168)

do you think luv's 173 isn't valid?

If you don't know if motivation is coming from scum or town, then you can ask for the motivation directly. That can give you hints. If you surely care much about motivation, then you would normally try to ask for that motivation if you cannot see it, no? So, yes, that one isn't valid.

[Not Known 15]

It's because this game lacked any real conflict or passion, imo.
Whenever I catch up on 5+ pages in a game, I always gloss unless there's a really serious conflict happening, and, even then, if it's too verbose, I still skim it.

Basically, this game's been pretty toothless so far.

-V

Porkens is still pretty high in my suspicion list even after they decided to give in and answer my question(and that situation was serious). But LUV/north, well that spot is currently number 1.

[Jabarkas Mayonnaise]

Now that the games are over and I can reference them, compare Porkens play here to his play in Paint Mafia Mania:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=73434
and Maplewood Village:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=73801

The way Porkens has committed to a gimmick here, coupled with the tone and directness of his non-gimmick posts, gives me townvibes since I was witness to similar in those aforementioned games.
That said, I don't really have any scum-Porkens games I've experienced firsthand to hold up to it, so, /shrugs.

-V

[Porkens]

I did a reading for keychain and lost it. BLARG