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Post Post #121 (isolation #0) » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:18 pm

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I think I missed who was in the neighborhood and I'm too lazy to go back and find the post cause i just read 5 pages.

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Post Post #130 (isolation #1) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:58 am

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Post Post #136 (isolation #2) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:34 am

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who is "ufo's hydra"monkey?
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Post Post #289 (isolation #3) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:01 am

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In post 282, Ice Cream Sand Witch wrote:People who have stated 0 opinions on other players: ElliRock, EPShea, LLD, Kaito, Kokichi, PJ
What a quality game of mafia this is.
Not really much to say to be honest. Too much Jackassery. One thing that I do have an opinion on is this big LLD everyone claim thing could be from Scum. Yeah, it could be beneficial to the town but not as beneficial as it is for scum because, I think the scum has a lot to gain knowing the value of people's powers. A lot more then town simply not going over the power bar, and this is kinda driven home to me by this whole clause of "DO NOT LIE ABOUT YOUR VALUE OR I WILL LYNCH YOU NO MATTER WHAT, EVEN IF YOU ARE MY TOP TOWN READ". The whole thing feels a lot like scum trying to get close to perfect information on the town and look town doing it.

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Post Post #291 (isolation #4) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:21 am

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Let's say there is a power with a cost that is significantly out of line with the numbers given, that would tell scum that that person's power is significantly larger and more game changing, possibly needing to be "charged" a couple rounds. Also, just in general, bigger numbers, mean bigger powers. By publically trying to "solve the game" we're giving the people with the information advantage a greater chance at doing so and using it against us.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #5) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:42 am

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In post 292, Ice Cream Sand Witch wrote:After half of us have already claimed do you still think that it's in our best interest to just stop and lynch LLD?
Yes. Scum having perfect information or close to perfect information on any part of our spells seems really fucking bad.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #6) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:59 am

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it also give the scum incomplete info.

And it certainly is near perfect info, given that everyone, by LLD's view and yours, should be telling the truth.

And what's the best case scenario here, alisae?

We add up the totals and then as a group choose who gets to use actions based on the power bar? Who are trusting with that responsibility? This is an empty exercise that gives scum a far greater advantage then it gives us.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #7) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:26 am

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In post 301, Ice Cream Sand Witch wrote:
In post 299, PJ. wrote:it also give the scum incomplete info.

And it certainly is near perfect info, given that everyone, by LLD's view and yours, should be telling the truth.

And what's the best case scenario here, alisae?

We add up the totals and then as a group choose who gets to use actions based on the power bar? Who are trusting with that responsibility? This is an empty exercise that gives scum a far greater advantage then it gives us.
Best case scenario is we overload and have confirmed wolf within a pool of players.
This false.

A town player who think they are being snubbed and has an "OP OMG WHY WON'T YOU LET ME USE MY POWER" attitude can overload us as easily as scum and we're on a witch hunt in a pool of players that could be predominantly town. The whole arguement for this is "we are dumb players so we should game the system" works both for and against the town. A stupid townie is gonna lose it regardless if we game the system or not, so it's better to NOT GIVE FREE INFORMATION TO THE BAD GUYS even when banking on "town is stupid and needs more info"

Idk, maybe I'm too old school, but like..the 2nd thing mods used to do when designing a setup was be like "do mass claims break the game for town?", so assuming this game is well designed, a partial mass claim isn't going to be an advantage, it's going to be a the opposite and potential a large one. Stupid town not withstanding.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #8) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:40 am

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What if it's not as stupid as a track? What if they think that it's in their best interest to blow up the town then to let it ride. Essentially what you are suggesting is every day we do a mini game of Resistance for each night saying like "if the night is disrupted it's cause a scum is on the outside", when town could just as easily hold the game hostage because of pride/greed/stupidity or a combination. I'm saying this is far more detrimental town especially if the scum take over who's "going on the night missions" by being more influential because "towns are stupid".


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Post Post #320 (isolation #9) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:59 am

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Not petty.

Run a fucking scenario.

we currently have a pool of 65.

Let's say that's 8 roles. So we see who's sent on the night. For argument'ss sake, I(town-aligned) feel there are multiple scum being included in the 8. I say, "hey guys I don't feel it's in our best interest to send 2 people I feel are scum to do night actions. I'm going to overload us if it goes as is seeing as it was prevent them from doing actions the next night as well as us". So now we're in a situation where we gotta haggle with that person to NOT overload, and possibly be forced to mislynch that person. I(scum-aligned) could use the same shtick and then be like "okay, level with me and put x person in instead of y person" to try to ensure action from the scum side. Turning this into a side game of "game the system" instead of just straight scum hunting only helps the scum.

I don't think you're coming from a scummy place, and if you have experience in games with this mechanic and telling me with absolute certainty the only way to win this game is to play this mini-game, I'll try to follow your lead because i'm entirely new to this mechanic, but from I am telling you that in my heart of hearts that I feel this tactic is incredibly anti-town and I feel the way LLD jumped on it and was so gung-ho about it is heavily concerning to me.
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Post Post #323 (isolation #10) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:29 am

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Okay, but presumably GIF as gone back to the drawing board and understands that his system was rekt by that minigame and put mechnics in this one to prevent that, correct?
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Post Post #326 (isolation #11) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:59 am

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Post Post #346 (isolation #12) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:23 pm

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What's the case on Kaede?
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Post Post #373 (isolation #13) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:53 pm

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I'm fairly certain Alisae isn't scum.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #14) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:07 pm

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UNVOTE:

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Post Post #397 (isolation #15) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:39 pm

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This isn't really a game related post, but this honestly seems like the best thread to ask this in because of the crowd: Is there a difference between DanganRompa 1+2 Reload and getting both games seperately?
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Post Post #398 (isolation #16) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:46 pm

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Is there a 5 dollar difference in content between the original games and reload?
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Post Post #405 (isolation #17) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:10 pm

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In post 402, Ice Cream Sand Witch wrote:
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Post Post #519 (isolation #18) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:41 pm

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Oh Kaede replaced out.

Ummm

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I also feel like the machine gun post are scum and a couple small things from the last page seemed off.
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Post Post #522 (isolation #19) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:49 pm

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i wish theyd put touhou games on steam
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Post Post #530 (isolation #20) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:36 pm

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In post 523, Ice Cream Sand Witch wrote:Panzer what should I buy on steam lmfao
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Post Post #534 (isolation #21) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:51 pm

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Oh...the foe feature doesn't work in games.
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Post Post #540 (isolation #22) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:02 pm

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shitposting is always the right answer, alisae.
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Post Post #555 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:18 pm

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Post Post #556 (isolation #24) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:19 pm

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Post Post #561 (isolation #25) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:21 pm

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In post 548, Elizibereth wrote:TAKE A SHOT BEFORE 11:30 EVERYONE GOGO
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Post Post #565 (isolation #26) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:23 pm

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the best show by trigger!!
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Post Post #601 (isolation #27) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:43 pm

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In post 569, Elizibereth wrote:
In post 565, PJ. wrote:the best show by trigger!!
i was going to post more mako in response to this but

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Post Post #603 (isolation #28) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:45 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #605 (isolation #29) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:46 pm

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Post Post #610 (isolation #30) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:23 pm

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Where were you when me and Alisae were having that argument 2 days ago?
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Post Post #618 (isolation #32) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:51 pm

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In post 616, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:If someone who isn't Monkey wants to talk to me about why massclaiming point numbers is a good fucking choice, I'll happily have that conversation with you.
I think that ground has been tread, tbh
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Post Post #619 (isolation #33) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:52 pm

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5 sentences or less: why mastina?
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Post Post #624 (isolation #34) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:51 am

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Lld. You're right, but chill. No Bannerino.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #35) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:11 am

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I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me a sticks to you.
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Post Post #637 (isolation #36) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:02 pm

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In post 636, Kokichi Oma wrote:Well nothing important happened.
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Post Post #678 (isolation #37) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:02 pm

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vote:pinky and the brain
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Post Post #709 (isolation #38) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:26 pm

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What exactly is a 1 shot innocent child?

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Post Post #712 (isolation #39) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:35 pm

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No reveal if you hit town?
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Post Post #722 (isolation #40) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:23 pm

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Me and ellibereth both claimed
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Post Post #751 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:23 am

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Dude, you're in a confirmed town slot, nobody's gonna kill you so stop saying that.
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Post Post #752 (isolation #42) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:26 am

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Also, did you say 2 town neighborhoods?
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Post Post #756 (isolation #43) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:44 am

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i don't
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Post Post #758 (isolation #44) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:48 am

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In post 756, PJ. wrote:i don't
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Post Post #760 (isolation #45) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:54 am

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I'm just assuming one of these is just straight up a scum group and it's the world's weirdest gambit.
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Post Post #772 (isolation #46) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:20 pm

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lol what?

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can't believe we waited 5 days for that,
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Post Post #868 (isolation #48) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:30 pm

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In post 860, HardcoreMonkey wrote:your gif game is horrible but it's on par with your posting fwiw

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Post Post #877 (isolation #49) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:34 pm

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yikes. well I guess I just get mislynched then, I'm not reading anything mastina writes because it's brutal.
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Post Post #894 (isolation #50) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:18 am

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I personally hate thestatusquo.
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Post Post #990 (isolation #51) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:31 pm

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Is mastina still scum?
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Post Post #998 (isolation #52) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:00 pm

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Kaito at 2 if the count is right
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Post Post #1018 (isolation #53) » Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:34 pm

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Forgot to click the scum PT, alisae?
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #54) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:36 pm

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If mastina wagon is dead, I can move my vote to Ice, kaito, or himiko.
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #55) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:36 pm

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VOTE: Kaito
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #56) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:32 pm

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In post 1115, HardcoreMonkey wrote:I don't know why you're preventing me hammering. It's not like me hammering town on a mislynch will make me unable to conf myself later. I would lynch you for suggesting that in the first place.
I'm still reading but this stood out to me, just note that this slot said multiple times they were one shot, so f they hammer town they lose their ability. You're definitely my day 2 lynch if we are in gladiation today.

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Post Post #1476 (isolation #57) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:54 pm

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Guys...you are posting faster than I can read, stop pls
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Post Post #1477 (isolation #58) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:08 pm

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In post 1295, HardcoreMonkey wrote:Me too actually I tried to pick Crystal Maiden, Lina Inverse, and Windrunner but apparently they were not the magical girls our mod had in mind.

Ability name is Blue Forte Wave.
Wtf Lina is totes a magical girl. From Slayers, right?
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Post Post #1479 (isolation #59) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:14 pm

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In post 1393, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 1392, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1389, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 1386, Kokichi Oma wrote:I've gotten everything I wanted from messing around. I wanted to see who would be the quick jump to try and lynch me. Ice Cream is another suspect of mine now.
This is BS btw
Why is it BS. Care to explain?
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Post Post #1480 (isolation #60) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:16 pm

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In post 1478, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1477, PJ. wrote:
In post 1295, HardcoreMonkey wrote:Me too actually I tried to pick Crystal Maiden, Lina Inverse, and Windrunner but apparently they were not the magical girls our mod had in mind.

Ability name is Blue Forte Wave.
Wtf Lina is totes a magical girl. From Slayers, right?
They stole her for Dota too, and I guess Dota got blanket banned?
But like....she's original Slayers..I knew dita stole her like they steal everything but like....slayyyyeerrrrssss
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Post Post #1484 (isolation #61) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:26 pm

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I believe that the gladiation is real and I honestly only see it coming from scum. Cutting of discussion on 3/4 different people to get a lurker lynched is scummy or meme-y but it's definitely anti-town

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Post Post #1486 (isolation #62) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:32 pm

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I'm at work. I get off in 4.5 hours.
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #63) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:55 am

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But why would town do that? Like I've never seen this ability before and wiki says it can be either role and it feels like an extraordinarily anti-town use.
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Post Post #1501 (isolation #64) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:56 am

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Right, I agree with your counterpoint, "why would scum do that?", but do you really think any of those people would be 100% lynched over elli? I think I would question the motivation here regardless and it's not like they were making a case for the lurker and they didn't seem opposed to at least one of the lynches being proposed. Idk, I feel like town let's the situation play out, we weren't in danger of a no lynch, we had positively un-stalled at the point they took action, one of their scumreads was being spoken about. There just isn't a reason to do this. Scum at leat has *some* upside by your measure, "this is also stupid for scum and scum would obviously be more careful so it's town". Looking like a dumb town is a positive. There's literally 0 positives for scum here
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Post Post #1505 (isolation #65) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:55 am

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Did you buy it? I still need to crack it open.
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #66) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:03 am

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I don't know what you mean, but I think I might.

I won't judge you, but yeah, I watched the DR anime(not that I remember it) but i just got the 1st and 2nd game. So imma crack it open soon.
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Post Post #1509 (isolation #67) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:24 am

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I don't think kaito claimed. Korekiyo claimed
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Post Post #1555 (isolation #68) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:39 pm

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In post 1531, HardcoreMonkey wrote:I have reason to believe I was roleblocked fwiw
Probablytrue.
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Post Post #1565 (isolation #69) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:29 pm

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If I wanted to distance myself from a mislynch why wouldn't I have just lurked through it like I lurked through most of the game until that point, if I'm being frank.

Also I'm super going to need to know why you think you got RB'd when you have yet to claim a night ability, only the innocent child conditional.
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #70) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:40 pm

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"I wasn't on the wagon" easy.
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #71) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:42 pm

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How is your lynch activated conditional a night ability?
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Post Post #1570 (isolation #72) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:42 pm

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In post 1568, HardcoreMonkey wrote:like how youre doing right now amirite
You brought it up. Not me.
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Post Post #1572 (isolation #73) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:52 pm

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You did not. Also you have given conflicting information more than once. I'm trying to play while considering your slot confirm town but you keep giving us new and bad info on the role. But I got it now.
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Post Post #1574 (isolation #74) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:57 am

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Well the next step was lynch Kaito or rediscuss elizibereth action from yesterday, but it looks like Kaito will share something with the class soon enough so the next step is lurk until something important happens.
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Post Post #1577 (isolation #75) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:42 am

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In post 1575, HardcoreMonkey wrote:How sure are you that Kaito would share something like that in the near future? I see no pressure for Kaito to do that. Why don't you prod him instead of me?
Because he's basically screaming "I have an investigation! Somebody claim! "

That basically means, shut up and wait. So like...shut up
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #76) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:00 am

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In post 1581, HardcoreMonkey wrote:
In post 1572, PJ. wrote:You did not. Also you have given conflicting information more than once. I'm trying to play while considering your slot confirm town but you keep giving us new and bad info on the role. But I got it now.
it's not our fault that you're bad and don't pay attention. I did explain what our ability did last gameday once I understood everything. Monkey was just repeating it.

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No. There has been conflicted information and you said flat out monkey did not understand the role. I can quote it in your is but I'm honestly to lazy and this argument is dumb because we're both town.
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Post Post #1609 (isolation #77) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:11 pm

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I'm v/LA. My entire state is on fire and we are black out.
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #78) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:49 am

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Maki, what's ur league name
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Post Post #1621 (isolation #79) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:25 am

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Na?
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #80) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:35 pm

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vote:lld
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Post Post #1758 (isolation #81) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:21 pm

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I find this claim to be very dubious
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Post Post #1762 (isolation #82) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:23 pm

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In post 1758, PJ. wrote:I find this claim to be very dubious
One of my abilities is also a commute, for the record.
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Post Post #1783 (isolation #83) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:29 pm

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Can we discuss me counter claiming LLD? I don't really care about waiting for or discussing a lurker again.
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Post Post #1802 (isolation #84) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:43 pm

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They gladiated Shea with like 24 hrs on deadline this is different. Also most the game has been night on those 10 days.

I still think the Shea gladiate was scummy but it's obvious the context is different

Also lld is scum.
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Post Post #1814 (isolation #85) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:56 pm

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In post 1800, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:If you can't see that Panzer walked in the thread and said "I have one too" as a counter claim thing to get me lynched, without any repricusion, you're fucking blind.

he didn't even claim his role name, abilities, or nothing.
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Post Post #1823 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:44 pm

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Brother. You can't be posting here.
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Post Post #1913 (isolation #87) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:11 pm

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Demanding everyone claim still scummy info hunting

Quick hammer because you can't add 3+1+1 is scummy AND a bad excuse.

You've bowed out of this game for "emotional reasons" which i figure is just an excuse for you to lurk and still blend in with the site meta because I honestly do see you as that weak a person.

Someone come up with 3 reasons that solid for why I'm scum. Please.
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Post Post #1914 (isolation #88) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:13 pm

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In post 1913, PJ. wrote:You've bowed out of this game for "emotional reasons" which i figure is just an excuse for you to lurk and still blend in with the site meta because I honestly do see you as that weak a person.
last do should be don't. sorry
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Post Post #1916 (isolation #89) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:25 pm

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We found the 2nd scum. Sick.
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Post Post #1917 (isolation #90) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:25 pm

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Mafia so ez.
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Post Post #1923 (isolation #91) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:10 pm

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In post 1918, Porkens wrote:
In post 1916, PJ. wrote:We found the 2nd scum. Sick.

Bro, it’s u.

I’m fucking magic. Time 4 u to panic B...............rother!
I'm the first and second scum?

I'm OP.
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Post Post #1925 (isolation #92) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:14 pm

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Ohohohoho, but I know yours.

Lld and porkens/formerly the himiko slot everyone spent pages upon pages saying is scum. Let's gooooooooo. Let's gladiate us some lld.
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Post Post #1927 (isolation #93) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:30 pm

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So let's analyze the situation. I counterclaimed another player(who was already probably going to be ran up to l-1 and/or gladiated). That player then voted me in self defense under the assumption that I'm scum faking a counterclaim to get them lynched in a non-lylo situation(while the pressure was already on, remember). Then the replacement for a slot that that same player (along with half the game for like day 1-2)was calling comes in and immediately votes me because "gut read".

Guys. I'm scum. They got me. It's ironclad. Really.
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Post Post #1928 (isolation #94) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:33 pm

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Book me dango.
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Post Post #1929 (isolation #95) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:24 pm

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Also I'm only mentioning this because I bugs me specifically, but you out here doing the "b....rother" hulk hogan sty-lee is the most inherently scummy thing I've ever seen.

I will not say my prayers. I will not eat my vitamins either, hulk, you racist.
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Post Post #1937 (isolation #96) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:56 am

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See, that's not really how words work. In order to be "caught for the wrong reasons" someone would have to actually give a reason.
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Post Post #1940 (isolation #97) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:36 am

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What am I verifying?
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #98) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:16 am

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No. It's pointless to do as scum, because of this very question. You can argue it a neutral play far too easy so the reward for cutting off free information isn't matched by the amount of town credit. It's a thankless thing, imo. As town, if you can obfuscate even a smidgen of the info that scum gets in that situation, it doesn't matter if you can take credit. You won the battle of not giving scum an inch more than they are already goven.

That's also the crux of why I think that it's a good scum play to ask. You can sell it as town given the reaction it got from people who've played this rare Mechanix before, because "you're trying to solve the game and prevent the drawback from this mechanic i.e overloading" but as scum you're also getting a ton of info. As a Townie you might hesitate to call for that, as scum I think you jump on that opportunity to ask for information for the "greater good".

In summation, I think the act of asking for the information has a lot more risk/reward for scum but could also be the pro-town best play (I don't have the experience or knowledge to judge if that's true), while I feel cutting off that information is a lot less beneficial as a scum player because of the sentiment that "mechanic discussion is neutral" and receiving incomplete information is a bad trade for the small amount of leverage you'd squeeze out of it.
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Post Post #1952 (isolation #99) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:46 am

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I'm pooping. There's nothing to read. It's a dad poop
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #100) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:47 am

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Sad poop not dad poop. ..wooops
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Post Post #1957 (isolation #101) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:11 pm

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mod you missed my vote on lld
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #102) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:45 am

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Bro, how are you so confident in your reads when you don't even know who the fuck is in the game? Open your eyes and vote lld or me.
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Post Post #1962 (isolation #103) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:05 am

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My scumread on porkens are that he voted me after I counterclaimed LLD for 0 objective reasons and replaced a slot that was scummy to begin with, but none of that changes that my top scum read is THE PERSON THAT I FUCKING COUNTERCLAIMED...

yikes man. just mislynch so i don't have to read your posts anymore.
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Post Post #1989 (isolation #104) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:58 am

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In post 1987, Maki Harukawa wrote:I think both panzer and pork are scum here and will happily vote either. LLD doesn't feel like scum here to me
I'm okay with lynching porkens, I'd just much rather lynch the person that I counterclaimed. Especially considering how difficult it's coming along.
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Post Post #2016 (isolation #105) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:34 pm

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VOTE: vote:porkens
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Post Post #2017 (isolation #106) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:35 pm

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VOTE: porkens

Even.
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Post Post #2031 (isolation #107) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:57 pm

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Lld/porkens/mastina in any order. I'm down.
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Post Post #2044 (isolation #108) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:41 am

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In post 2042, Kokichi Oma wrote:Prodge. Can we just lynch. I'll vote pork if we can lynch pinky tomorrow. I'm more sure on that.
K, go for it.
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Post Post #2062 (isolation #109) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:00 am

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who is chara?
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Post Post #2064 (isolation #110) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:01 am

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thank you
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Post Post #2069 (isolation #111) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:01 am

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In post 2060, The Brain and Pinky wrote:Yes that's me not using a rhyme. It was faked,

Lynch All Liars
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Post Post #2072 (isolation #112) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:03 am

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mastina been scum. no just lying scum. let's gooooooooooooo
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Post Post #2080 (isolation #113) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:03 pm

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Vote: Kokichi


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Post Post #2164 (isolation #114) » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:40 pm

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Mastina salty as fuck for someone that was either actively hurting their alignment or not posting the entirety of the game.
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Post Post #2186 (isolation #115) » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:55 pm

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Anecdote***
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Post Post #2191 (isolation #116) » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:37 am

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In post 2187, Alisaes French Maid wrote:Thanks for having my back
I just didn't want to have to supply you with an antidote
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Post Post #2195 (isolation #117) » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:22 am

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In post 2194, mhsmith0 wrote:The only time a scum neighbor OR neighborizer has lost a mini normal was when it was multiball and the neighbor was shot n1 by other scum team. It is a substantial boost to MOST scum teams/players, and one that is rarely accounted for in balance.
that's a great stat, but there wasn't a scum neighbor or neighborizer
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Post Post #2197 (isolation #118) » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:28 am

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I'm assuming part of the argument is also that town neighbors just assume everyone in their hood is town.
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Post Post #2206 (isolation #119) » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:15 pm

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In post 2204, Mulch wrote:nice replace out btw
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