Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection


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Post Post #38 (isolation #0) » Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:54 pm

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In post 34, Ginngie wrote:where is the rest of the Cambridge Crew?
I am true to my namesake
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Post Post #69 (isolation #1) » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:04 pm

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VOTE: Group B
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Post Post #190 (isolation #2) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:03 am

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I have quite enjoyed these last few pages as well as the verbal humiliation suffered by a specific user.

However, the plan of lynching from Group B remains the same.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #3) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:05 am

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@Mod I am uncertain which mafia members know the identities of which other mafia members. Could you please clarify post-haste?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #4) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:09 am

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I cannot be certain why Conmickman regards Anime Alt so, but I believe a reasonable explanation is that he is a scumlord.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #5) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:31 am

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In post 203, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:But I’m not getting lynched so no biggie
You are in group B. You have a high chance of being lynched. As of this post, you have an even higher chance of being lynched than other members of Group B. Well played.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:35 am

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Not by me alone, no. But I pledge my contribution.
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Post Post #330 (isolation #7) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:09 pm

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I might have missed it Bulbs, but why do you have a town read on LUV?
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Post Post #341 (isolation #8) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:23 pm

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In post 331, Bulbazak wrote:Reasons. I also think he's too easy.
What are those reasons?
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Post Post #345 (isolation #9) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:30 pm

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You see I asked "Does any player make this post as town?" And my answer I got back was no. I believe LUV is included in any player, so I think it holds up.
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Post Post #350 (isolation #10) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:40 pm

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I think that even if a player typically posts without thinking, or without thinking specifically about the ramifications of their post, that a town player would never post 203 with even the slightest self-awareness of their wincon.

If the reaction to that post looks knee-jerk, it's because it is, due to the fact that most people with an actual town wincon have the self-awareness to pick up on just how awful that post is.
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Post Post #571 (isolation #11) » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:35 am

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In post 533, ConManMick wrote:
In post 192, InactionDan wrote:I cannot be certain why Conmickman regards Anime Alt so, but I believe a reasonable explanation is that he is a scumlord.
Can't tell if srs face or no
It was. Question, what is your updated read of Anime alt?

LUV gaslights harder in this thread than Trump
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Post Post #591 (isolation #12) » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:21 pm

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In post 589, momo wrote:This is my list of tentative Townreads in case anyone was wondering.

Majiffy
Bulbazak
Rautherdir
Transcend
WhyMafia --- I would like to see more scum hunting out of you though. I am letting that go since it is D1 however.
Good lord that's a horrible list
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Post Post #594 (isolation #13) » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:47 pm

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Because if there's one thing I'm good at it's reading people, and I don't judge any of the content by those 5 to be particularly towny, especially Rautherdir and Transcend. But I suppose if I had a biscuit to give I'd give it to Majiffy, solely on the basis of sticking with his scum read of LUV.

Spoiler:
I don't have any biscuits
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Post Post #824 (isolation #14) » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:05 am

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In post 700, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:Lil Uzi Vert - Obvious Town
Break my arms and kill me
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Post Post #944 (isolation #15) » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:55 am

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Leaning town on both Desp and Bulba now
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Post Post #1059 (isolation #16) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:24 am

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In post 1050, Surreptitious wrote:
Group A
Group B
Group C
EddieFenix
Assemblerotws
Bulbazak
WhyMafia
Elliberetta
InactionDan
Creature
Majiffy
Rautherdir
SnarkySnowman
Thor665
momo
Lil Uzi Vert
ConManMick
vonflare
Desperado
RachMarie
checkersman7
Transcend
Ginngie
Mikan Tsumiki


Vote Count 1.8


Group A (0): [L-11]

Group B (8): checkersman7, Ginngie, InactionDan, Desperado, WhyMafia, Majiffy, momo, RachMarie [L-3]

Group C (9): Transcend, ConManMick, Assemblerotws, Bulbezak, Thor665, SnarkySnowman, Rautherdir, Mikan Tsumiki, EddieFenix [L-2]

Not Voting (4): Elliberetta, Creature, Lil Uzi Vert, vonflare

DPI ends in (expired on 2017-11-19 19:13:00)

DPII ends in (expired on 2017-11-26 19:13:00)


Mod NotesGinngie is V/LA until the 17th of November.

Mikan Tsumiki is V/LA until the 18th of November.
This vote count is gold. The group B voters are so town rich I think I've got my daily dose of vitamins from just looking at it. In contrast there are a lot of people voting Group C that are null-scum with a only couple town reads sprinkled in-between. I think that the reason why is that in Group C there's a lot more reads that are all over the place while people are slowly forming a consensus on group B.

The only one that I think there is stark disagreement with among those voting in Group B is LUV (He's scum btw).
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #17) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:04 pm

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In post 38, InactionDan wrote:
In post 34, Ginngie wrote:where is the rest of the Cambridge Crew?
I am true to my namesake
Say my name
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #18) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:58 pm

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Image

VOTE: LIL UZI VERT
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #19) » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:03 pm

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I DO AS THE CHECKERSMAN7 COMMANDS

VOTE: MA..Ji..

Wait, no. Not that one. Why Checkersman7. Whyyyyy? Such a cruel overlord.

















VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Spoiler: contains sweets
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Post Post #1749 (isolation #20) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:44 am

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GINNGIE?
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Post Post #1750 (isolation #21) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:47 am

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Oh wait nvm
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #22) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:48 am

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RAMICUS?
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Post Post #1755 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:52 am

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In post 1753, ActionDan wrote:Checkers?
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Post Post #1757 (isolation #24) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:56 am

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CHECK

VOTE: CMM
In post 1751, InactionDan wrote:RAMICUS?
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Post Post #1761 (isolation #25) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:12 am

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Would you kindly revote CMM dearest Ramcius
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Post Post #1763 (isolation #26) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:37 am

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Is it truly me who has enbarked on this path or CMM who has forced my hand by his negligence?
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Post Post #1777 (isolation #27) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:44 am

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You are welcome majiffy
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Post Post #1780 (isolation #28) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:11 pm

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Well you ought to be.
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Post Post #1782 (isolation #29) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:04 pm

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That's what Native Americans say on this blessed day
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Post Post #1786 (isolation #30) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:01 pm

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Well I'm not sure what you're insinuating there creature but majiffy is town so I think this might be called town theater.
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Post Post #1787 (isolation #31) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:02 pm

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Ill give you transcend on a silver plate though if you so desire
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Post Post #1915 (isolation #32) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:23 am

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In post 1913, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:If this is Dan’s town game, that’s just sad.
There's honestly nothing sadder in this thread than you.
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Post Post #1920 (isolation #33) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:32 am

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In group A it's a choice between Whymafia / Eddie / Assemble, but I sort of remember Whymafia being vaguely town. This is probably the group I'd be most interesting in sorting atm.

I honestly don't understand the raging boner people have for majiffy. The CMM lynch was brave and valiant.
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Post Post #1922 (isolation #34) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:33 am

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Also the other benefit of lynching in A is that creature gets shot.
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Post Post #1931 (isolation #35) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:55 am

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In post 1924, Creature wrote:Why do you townread Bulba?
#930 kind of just did it for me

But I also think one or two or maybe even three of his posts seemed reminiscent of his town game from TBD. Looking back something like #320 is the first from his ISO that fits that description
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #36) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:10 am

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It's auxiliary if you are referring to the above post.
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Post Post #2409 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:31 pm

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In post 2408, ActionDan wrote:I do, thanks for asking.
BEGONE FOUL DEMON
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Post Post #2410 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:32 pm

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You can add blatant and unnecessary White knighting of yourself to the list of charges. Right under "teehee you won't lynch me" signaling to his mafia buds
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Post Post #2411 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:33 pm

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Now back to Inaction
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Post Post #2601 (isolation #40) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:07 am

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I town read desp
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Post Post #2612 (isolation #41) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:40 am

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Not only was Ali town but ramicus is as well
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Post Post #2739 (isolation #42) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:56 am

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In post 2732, Ramcius wrote:Gut says Desp town, probably go for Von tbh
This is me.

With Transcend thrown into lynchables as well. And maybe ginngie if I trust elli and Checkers reads.

Rach is town by consensus although I haven't read a single post of hers

Checkers/Ram = town
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Post Post #2916 (isolation #43) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:41 am

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In post 2914, ActionDan wrote:Ginngie
Sorry;

Ginngie

is what I meant
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Post Post #2919 (isolation #44) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:43 am

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Fine, if you insist. But let it be known this isn't my preference.

VOTE: Ginngie
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Post Post #2922 (isolation #45) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:46 am

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In post 2920, Ginngie wrote:
In post 2919, InactionDan wrote:Fine, if you insist. But let it be known this isn't my preference.
Then who is?
Flare/Trans

I mean you'd be a somewhat close third but still third.

And Checkersman7 I am a strong independent Inaction Man
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Post Post #2926 (isolation #46) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:49 am

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Who the hell are you
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Post Post #2928 (isolation #47) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:50 am

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But whoever you are, I don't approve of your lifestyle choices
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Post Post #2992 (isolation #48) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:14 am

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If I may:

Here's something that I think is not true which is basically an indirect push; namely,
In post 2520, Ginngie wrote:
In post 1423, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:Ginngie are just obvious town.
This is so bloody confusing and is a complete reversal of her ISO for no real reason that I can understand.



What also got me fucked up and I haven't had time to unravel is that in Night and Day, and in general, Alisae can't fight with me, she sucks at it and she knows and pushing her is something I always do. A lot of my pushing on her felt really valid and her criticisms didn't make much sense. So like I get scum vibes from it, but the thing that perplexes me is that she was still able to throw shit at me even if it made no damn sense.
In post 2522, Ginngie wrote:The reason she quit the game is because she hates MS, she's been talking to me and invited me to MU because reasons so the replace out is hugely NAI and just her on burnout regarding this site.
In post 2529, Ginngie wrote:
In post 2528, Toto wrote:We are not lynching alisae slot. Im sorry you cant see that simple fact. Scum dont rage quit like they did.
This can be so easily disproved that I'm going to hope and pray you actually tell me why you townread the slot by play before I force a powerlynch on you after we lynch Desp in C.
In post 2531, Ginngie wrote:and after I quite literally explain that they hate playing mafia on this site and you spew the same bullshit is quite annoying.
When this is town af regardless of whatever other baggage of emotions Alisae carries relating to this site. Most of that post was game specific: this game, these players, and those reads.

To be fair that's really the only thing that's ever stuck out that I can remember. But that's a good example
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Post Post #2995 (isolation #49) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:19 am

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Also at Majiffy

see above for my polite declination
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Post Post #3002 (isolation #50) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:25 am

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In post 2996, Ginngie wrote:You're talking about Alisae posting an in game content post, I'm talking about how Toto is saying someone replacing out is AI when it shouldn't be.
Are you not talking about both Ali's content (first quoted post) and also specifically Ali's replace out as NAI (all the others) when Toto thinks Ali's replace out in particular is AI?
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Post Post #3004 (isolation #51) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:26 am

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I linked them because they're part and parcel to your read of the slot
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Post Post #3557 (isolation #52) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:35 am

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In post 3545, Elliberetta wrote:gingie's town now right
I disagree,

But I will,

VOTE: Vonflare
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Post Post #3582 (isolation #53) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:44 pm

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I will be voting NL over a vote for Ram. So to any hardliners, do not count on my vote
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Post Post #3584 (isolation #54) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:02 pm

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It is possible but I won't like it
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Post Post #3912 (isolation #55) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:33 am

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VOTE: Desperado
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Post Post #3940 (isolation #56) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:41 am

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And a hearty fuck you too
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Post Post #4264 (isolation #57) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:27 am

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In post 4263, ActionDan wrote:We aren't lynching group B.

VOTE: Group A

We are lynching Group A
Me.
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Post Post #4265 (isolation #58) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:28 am

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Also Welcome Sky Paladin from the old days of Shrinemaiden
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Post Post #4268 (isolation #59) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:46 am

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VOTE: a
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Post Post #4273 (isolation #60) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:26 am

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In post 203, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 201, Ginngie wrote:You're not making a very good impression >:(
Yeah I know...

But I’m not getting lynched so no biggie :]
I like this one better

All of A has checked in btw.
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Post Post #4351 (isolation #61) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:17 pm

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Checking in, again
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Post Post #4352 (isolation #62) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:18 pm

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UNVOTE:

Can we get on with it. Out guilty, proceed, etc.
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Post Post #4475 (isolation #63) » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:50 am

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VOTE: B
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Post Post #4487 (isolation #64) » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:03 pm

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In post 4486, ActionDan wrote:
In post 4482, chesskid3 wrote:yeah we all want u to just die already creature
VOTE: Thor
VOTE: Thor
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Post Post #4489 (isolation #65) » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:38 pm

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I dreamt I was InactionDan lurking here and there, and woke up ActionDan. But who can say that I am not InactionDan, only dreaming as ActionDan
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Post Post #4716 (isolation #66) » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:25 pm

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VOTE: A
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Post Post #4814 (isolation #67) » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:42 am

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Lynch in B > A

Or Lynch Vonflare.

Those are the choices
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Post Post #5016 (isolation #68) » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:12 am

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VOTE: b
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Post Post #5099 (isolation #69) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:32 am

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I can't believe you lynched Majiffy before I even got the chance to vote for LUV
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Post Post #5202 (isolation #70) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:58 am

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Shoot missed hammer.

I'll wait
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Post Post #5203 (isolation #71) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:59 am

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would probably like to wait for votes from Vax/Toto though.
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Post Post #5211 (isolation #72) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:48 am

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VOTE: Transend

And I tender my immediate resignation

GG town wins
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Post Post #5237 (isolation #73) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:19 am

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In post 5235, Transcend wrote:i'm not sure this setup can be anything but horribly townsided
This too.
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Post Post #5243 (isolation #74) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:28 am

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although possibly the easiest improvement to make is traitors knowing who their mafia friends actually and/or also being immune to goon shots.

Pre-edit: @ram, Uh.. Might want to think about the setup a bit more and how it differs from a typical 21p setup with 5 mafia.
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Post Post #5248 (isolation #75) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:54 am

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In post 5247, Ramcius wrote:very limited PRs
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Post Post #5250 (isolation #76) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:05 am

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3 confirmed unlynchable PRs that function much stronger than standard cops is probably as much or more town power than most games on a similar scale. Not only that but because of lynching mechanics for example after the first mislynch they can focus on a pool of 6 people, greatly increasing their odds of an effective guilty.

If scum hadn't shot two in a row this game would have been over on D3 I'm betting.
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Post Post #5255 (isolation #77) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:21 am

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Day talk would have been nice too.
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Post Post #5259 (isolation #78) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:48 am

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My performance this game was definitely possible as town.

I also quite legitimately thought LUV was scum and thought the same about ginngie
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