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Post Post #17 (isolation #0) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:04 am

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How many EE players are there?
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Post Post #18 (isolation #1) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:05 am

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Leaving here that I detected so far one post that looks very forced and one post that looks very genuine.

Free towncred if you can find each.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #2) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:10 am

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In post 3, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Wilky - 7
Creature - 7
Lalendra - 7
Aster - 1
Pisskop - 1
Viomi - 1
Actually, I find this strange. Isn't the 1 group supposed to come first?
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Post Post #20 (isolation #3) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:13 am

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In post 18, Creature wrote:Leaving here that I detected so far one post that looks very forced and one post that looks very genuine.

Free towncred if you can find each.
Don't you wanna try, CommKnight?
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Post Post #23 (isolation #4) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:25 am

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In post 21, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 17, Creature wrote:How many EE players are there?
Rarely updated. ~20 to ~60 players in game at once usually. Forums are still thriving (and introduced me to mafia). Apparently there’s going to be another ownership transition in a few months time.
I mean in this game, or in this site.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #5) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:27 am

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In post 24, mutantdevle wrote:12 & 16?
Which is genuine and which is forced?
Also I get the feeling this question is to just test for people who want to appear townie.
Close, but not that.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #6) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:46 am

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I mean, 1 is lower than 7.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #7) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:35 am

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In post 22, MisaTange wrote:@Creature: Aster's sounds genuine.
What do you think about this post?
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Post Post #76 (isolation #8) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:40 pm

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What was the post mutant did something and the post he backtracked that something?
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Post Post #78 (isolation #9) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:45 pm

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Use:

Code: Select all

[post][/post]


or you can press quote or Q+ at the right top corner of the post.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #10) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:46 pm

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Btw, can you all just not say whether you got something or not?
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Post Post #80 (isolation #11) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:47 pm

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Ugh, that rolefishing.

mutant, have you tried a newbie before?
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Post Post #87 (isolation #12) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:59 pm

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Choosing my first wagon.

VOTE: Aster
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Post Post #88 (isolation #13) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:00 pm

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What I'm worried about mutantdevle is that he has no idea of how mafia works here. So I'm thinking his rolefishing is town motivated even if it's pretty bad.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #14) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:04 pm

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Anyone wants to IC mutantdevle?
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Post Post #116 (isolation #15) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:44 am

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In post 108, Chip Butty wrote:If i had to pick 3 right now:

Wilky for being squirmy and casting a defensive vote.
Mutant for blatant and ill-advised role fishing.
Aster for too much setup spec.

In no particular order yet...
I townread wilky and mutant, but we're together on Aster.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #16) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:44 am

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In post 92, pisskop wrote:guys look how town i am
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Post Post #118 (isolation #17) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:45 am

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In post 12, Aster wrote:VOTE: mutantdevie for bandwagoning.

(This is totally unrelated from my fear of mutant zombies.)
Seemed forced.
In post 16, CommKnight wrote:VOTE: Pisskop - One scum in the group of 1's for sure.

Also holy shit, look at that. I managed to pick the one number that wouldn't screw me and someone else over. :lol:
Seemed genuine.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #18) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:46 am

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northsidegal has towned at page 2
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Post Post #120 (isolation #19) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:48 am

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The others need to post more.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #20) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:51 am

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Texcat - 2
Northsidegal - 3

Assemblerotws - 4
CommKnight - 6
Mutantdevle - 8

MisaTange - 30
CityElectric - 5
Chip Butty - 5
Wilky - 7
Creature - 7

Lalendra - 7
Aster - 1
Pisskop - 1

Viomi - 1

Groups to look at:
{texcat, Assemblerotws, CommKnight}
{CityElectric, Chip Butty}
{Lalendra, Aster, Viomi}
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Post Post #123 (isolation #21) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:55 am

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Hi CommKnight, there are plenty of stuff for you to comment in. Like: what do you think about mutantdevle, Wilky and Aster?
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Post Post #130 (isolation #22) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:27 am

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In post 125, Lalendra wrote:I don't like this. His join date is a month ago but he already said earlier in the thread that he has plenty of experience playing mafia, and in case that wasn't clear, he even refutes your noob claim later:
The problem is that EE forums mafia isn't a good experience. EE forums isn't a good mafia forums, I doubt it's even serious. So he should be a total newbie for serious mafia.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #23) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:00 am

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In post 35, mutantdevle wrote:Speaking of which, Texcat, are you going to tell us what role you chose? Since you are the first in the draft order you are guaranteed to have a PR. Hence you are the most likely candidate for the scum to shoot.
In your games was it normal to ask someone to claim so early?
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Post Post #139 (isolation #24) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:52 am

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In post 137, MisaTange wrote:@Creature/mutant: (to try to settle the 'idiot town/scum issue) in EE, is it common to setup speculate on the first pages?
I guess it's more that the players there don't take mafia so seriously.
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Post Post #146 (isolation #25) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:02 pm

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Scum should have chat before draft.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #26) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:16 am

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Still think he's flipping town.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #27) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:18 am

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Ugh, but not sure if he deserves to live.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #28) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:20 am

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I don't want this day to be extreme unproductive so I'd:
- End the mutant wagon
- Ignore mutant and hunt scum elsewhere
- Choose a lynch without it necessarily needing to be mutant
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Post Post #172 (isolation #29) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:21 am

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Good thing mutant at most just pointed what was obvious and texcat didn't even listen.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #30) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:31 pm

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In post 175, mutantdevle wrote:I appreciate that you want to keep me alive but if you are going to ignore me hereafter then you may as well just lynch me now. I wouldn't want to live in a game where my opinion holds no value.
Not in the sense of ignoring everything you say...
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Post Post #195 (isolation #31) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:55 am

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In post 185, Viomi wrote:
In post 171, Creature wrote:I don't want this day to be extreme unproductive so I'd:
- End the mutant wagon
- Ignore mutant and hunt scum elsewhere
- Choose a lynch without it necessarily needing to be mutant
Even if mutant were town, you don't think seeing people's opinions on him and how hard they push him etc. is productive?
It is, unless the whole day is about him and we forgot everywhere else.

I'd rather play the "What if mutant is town?" and be prepared if we end mislynching him.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #32) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:57 am

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In post 188, CityElectric wrote:No time like the present to actually contribute some to that, instead of just pointing this out. I've asked you some questions on your motivation for your reads and actions, as have others. You not addressing any of those does not sit right with me. At this point, it looks to me like you're just throwing out reads and statements to make it look like you're scumhunting and contributing to the game, without actually providing anything.
In post 88, Creature wrote:What I'm worried about mutantdevle is that he has no idea of how mafia works here.
So I'm thinking his rolefishing is town motivated even if it's pretty bad.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #33) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:58 am

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In post 190, wilky wrote:I think that it would be one or the other. Creature buddying with Mutant seems to be more along the lines of if Mutant flips town he can try claim some town cred from it.
Or we could both be town with me genuinely believing he's town and trying to make sure the day isn't just a policy lynch only scum will benefit from.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #34) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:59 am

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Curiousity: Did you know that defending townreads is among town's objectives?
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Post Post #225 (isolation #35) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:04 am

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Ugh, I'm feeling so lazy to answer these generic accusations.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #36) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:05 am

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I've used genuine and forced because:

Town will naturally look town, aka genuine.
Scum will try to look town, aka forced.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #37) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:15 am

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I've made it pretty clear:

mutantdevle did something antitown, but not necessarily scummy. Maybe he thought it was the best play for town and he looks pretty newb to me.

tbh the reason I'm townreading him is not because of his rolefish, which can be ambiguous. I'm townreading him because he still keeps producing content in a way I find genuine.

I'm against the wagon because it reached the point it's a wagon to lynch. mutantdevle is already posting content and there should have enough out of him to sort, so the wagon on him must be to lynch.

I'm mainly afraid he might end just being a newbtown and it would mean we wasted an entire day on him, and we'll possibly have to start from zero next day with two less town.

I'm proposing for us to leave the wagon for now, doesn't mean we shouldn't revisit it if we end to the conclusion he's scum, but that's just later. Instead, we keep hunting for scum without the mindset of "mutant must be scum". We could always return to his wagon anyway.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #38) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:16 am

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Also, too blatant to be X is stupid.

The right way to do is: Would town do this? Why?
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Post Post #230 (isolation #39) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:16 am

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Mafia is much more complex than simply picking a mistake and associating it to scum.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #40) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:19 am

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We could decide rn.

What's mainly scummy about Chip Butty?
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Post Post #234 (isolation #41) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:22 am

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Pretty sure I said
not
to claim if you got stuff.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #42) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:26 am

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Are you more bothered about the bolded part?
In post 72, Chip Butty wrote:@texcat : can you point out where it says in the rules that scum participate in the draft?

@wilky : the usual way?

This is my first u-pick game. Is it usual for scum to participate in the draft?
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Post Post #239 (isolation #43) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:45 am

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Uh yeah, that's dumb. Though, I doubt it's a scum strategy. Not town-indicative nor scum-indicative for me.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #44) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:45 am

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In post 108, Chip Butty wrote:If i had to pick 3 right now:

Wilky for being squirmy and casting a defensive vote.
Mutant for blatant and ill-advised role fishing.
Aster for too much setup spec.

In no particular order yet...
What do you think about this, wilky?
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Post Post #242 (isolation #45) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:04 am

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Btw, there was another misinterpretation here:
In post 86, Viomi wrote:
In post 19, Creature wrote:
In post 3, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Wilky - 7
Creature - 7
Lalendra - 7
Aster - 1
Pisskop - 1
Viomi - 1
Actually, I find this strange. Isn't the 1 group supposed to come first?
Also yes, scum does partake in the draft. This is my second pick-your-poison.
What do you make out of it?
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Post Post #245 (isolation #46) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:08 am

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More that I don't understand what "yes, scum does partake in the draft" as to do with 19.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #47) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:09 am

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In post 244, Lalendra wrote:I find it funny that Creature keeps referring to mutant being newbtown when a) they've played on another site together and b) mutant has made it very clear that he is not new, that he has played before, and that he does not want to be discounted as a new player.
In post 130, Creature wrote:
In post 125, Lalendra wrote:I don't like this. His join date is a month ago but he already said earlier in the thread that he has plenty of experience playing mafia, and in case that wasn't clear, he even refutes your noob claim later:
The problem is that EE forums mafia isn't a good experience. EE forums isn't a good mafia forums, I doubt it's even serious. So he should be a total newbie for serious mafia.
In post 139, Creature wrote:
In post 137, MisaTange wrote:@Creature/mutant: (to try to settle the 'idiot town/scum issue) in EE, is it common to setup speculate on the first pages?
I guess it's more that the players there don't take mafia so seriously.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #48) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:13 am

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In post 247, wilky wrote:[bunch of quotes]

Ahh, I see. Has he not replied to you instead of Chip Butty by mistake?
Oh right, it's possible.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #49) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:13 am

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In post 145, Viomi wrote:1. I don't think scum gets to talk before draft
Do you think this is a genuine townslip?
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Post Post #256 (isolation #50) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:30 am

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In post 251, wilky wrote:Creature what are your views on this quote?
I didn't expect someone to already have 3 scumreads on players that were already posting at that stage.
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Post Post #257 (isolation #51) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:32 am

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mutantdevle, who are the scum on your wagon?
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Post Post #261 (isolation #52) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:20 pm

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Someone mentioned scum can easily fakeclaim, so claiming, specially this early, isn't ideal.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #53) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:21 pm

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Anyone up to wagon CommKnight?
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Post Post #283 (isolation #54) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:09 am

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In post 277, CityElectric wrote:Even the possible somewhat proactive 18, never got properly followed up upon, i.e. analyzing the reactions it got.
Helped me get a townread on mutant and possibly plenty others.
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Post Post #284 (isolation #55) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:29 am

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In post 262, Creature wrote:Anyone up to wagon CommKnight?
Yay I got ignored again.

Though, I'm sorta fine with pisskop wagon.
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Post Post #285 (isolation #56) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:29 am

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In post 279, Chip Butty wrote:but these useless playstyles usually turn out to be town
Yeah, this.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #57) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:41 pm

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I wanted to see where the pisskop wagon would go, maybe I could end having a better idea on pk slot and plus some other players.
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Post Post #324 (isolation #58) » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:58 am

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If I'm lynching pisskop, it's not gonna be by PL.
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Post Post #325 (isolation #59) » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:02 am

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Hey wilky, would you try a different wagon?
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Post Post #329 (isolation #60) » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:11 am

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I think Comm's general inactivity is more likely to come from scum.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #61) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:00 am

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I like expect pisskop behavior to be like this and I'm probably leaning him to be more town than scum.
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Post Post #341 (isolation #62) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:01 am

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mutant is likely scum and creature is his scumbuddy harddefending him, but creature could be buddying him for town cred
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Post Post #342 (isolation #63) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:02 am

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Sorry, not gonna let two mislynches be lined like this.
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Post Post #343 (isolation #64) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:05 am

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In post 339, Aster wrote:than that the evidence he presents suggests to be reasonable.
I think the way he's active, producing content and being genuinely motivated to solve the game is enough for me to hard-defend him like this.

Has anyone thought that town could also hard-defend their townreads?
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Post Post #344 (isolation #65) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:05 am

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In post 332, Aster wrote:Players who would be fine with lynching pisskop:
Not fine, not rn.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #66) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:08 am

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I'm gonna show you one scum who's just in the background watching town eat itself:

VOTE: CommKnight
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Post Post #372 (isolation #67) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:41 am

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I'm still surprised how nobody is questioning how close-minded almost everybody is acting. I don't remember everyone ever agreeing on lynching any of the same three slots.
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Post Post #375 (isolation #68) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:28 am

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Viomi seems alright I guess.
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Post Post #376 (isolation #69) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:29 am

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We should really gather townreads instead of scumreads.

Scum usually stand in nullreads.
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Post Post #377 (isolation #70) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:29 am

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It's a lot likely we're just discarding the actual scum into "null"
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Post Post #379 (isolation #71) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:46 am

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It's more of a meta reason. I feel like he's taking advantage of us who are just tunneling town. I'd expect town!him to be trying to stop that.
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Post Post #380 (isolation #72) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:47 am

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Trying to be as clear as possible:

An experienced town would try hard to convince the newer players what scumtells are invalid.

While a scum would just avoid these generic scumtells and let town eat itself. They don't need to do what their experienced town selves would do.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #73) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:57 am

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Oh nice, nobody even dared to look at my reasoning for CommKnight.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #74) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:19 pm

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In post 382, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 375, Creature wrote:Viomi seems alright I guess.
All right as in she is alright for a lynch target or her behaviour is alright by town standards?
Alright for a lynch. Though, I might need to recheck her.
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Post Post #392 (isolation #75) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:20 pm

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MisaTange

Huh? 343 is about mutantdevle.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #76) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:59 am

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In post 396, Lalendra wrote:The wagon on mutant built pretty quickly, what information do you hope to gain from it if he is town?
Who's scum on his wagon?
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Post Post #410 (isolation #77) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:03 am

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Meanwhile CommKnight is just lurking along his scumbuddies, the mislynch is pretty much going to be mutantdevle or pisskop.
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Post Post #429 (isolation #78) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:05 am

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Huh yeah, there are plenty of good lynch options.

Too bad the top two wagons are bad lynch options.
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Post Post #470 (isolation #79) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:16 pm

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There are players trying to solve the game and players like "pisskop and mutantdevle are both scum, creature is scum defending (possibly whiteknighting) them"
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Post Post #471 (isolation #80) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:18 pm

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In post 467, Aster wrote:Also, I think town could use some variation. Focussing only on mutant/pisskop is getting stale and doesn't leave us well-prepared for the next day.
Bit too late to come to that conclusion, but let's try to work together.
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Post Post #472 (isolation #81) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:22 pm

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In post 428, CityElectric wrote:I still am very much not a fan of the amount of work it takes to get Creature to elaborate on anything.
What about the amount of work it takes to get others to listen?
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Post Post #473 (isolation #82) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:23 pm

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The only real scumread I have rn is CommKnight.

Though, I believe there's scum among these "creature, mutant and pisskop are all scum gg"
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Post Post #474 (isolation #83) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:23 pm

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like Viomi, CityElectric and Chip Butty mainly.
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Post Post #475 (isolation #84) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:38 pm

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In post 417, pisskop wrote:Lynch in

- Lalindra
- Aster
- Commknight
- Ed Edd and Eddy avatar girl
I could do any of these (assuming the last one is MisaTange). Where do we start?
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Post Post #480 (isolation #85) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:07 am

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I don't think he's a liability, atleast not the biggest liability.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #86) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:19 am

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In post 484, Lalendra wrote:
In post 480, Creature wrote:I don't think he's a liability, atleast not the biggest liability.
Who would you say is the biggest liability then?
Anyone who somehow got to the conclusion pisskop and mutant are both scum with me as scum defending them and still somehow defends it without ever doubting.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #87) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:33 pm

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I'll answer when I'm less busy.
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Post Post #504 (isolation #88) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:34 pm

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Also lol, you're all saying if mutant is scum I'm scum trying to save him and if mutant is town I'm scum whiteknighting him.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #89) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:42 pm

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In post 497, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 185, Viomi wrote:
In post 171, Creature wrote:I don't want this day to be extreme unproductive so I'd:
- End the mutant wagon
- Ignore mutant and hunt scum elsewhere
- Choose a lynch without it necessarily needing to be mutant
Even if mutant were town, you don't think seeing people's opinions on him and how hard they push him etc. is productive?
I like this.
Yeah, where people somehow interpreted "let's ignore everything mutant says"
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Post Post #506 (isolation #90) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:44 pm

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In post 485, CommKnight wrote:
In post 473, Creature wrote:The only real scumread I have rn is CommKnight.

Though, I believe there's scum among these "creature, mutant and pisskop are all scum gg"
I'd love to hear your reasoning for scumread Creature. I mean you keep bringing it up. So spill the beans. You've played with me multiple times now. But this is all you got to offer?

Also I am still going to go with Pisskop or Mutant. People seem too scared to actually go through with the lynches. I'm not.
I'm pretty sure scum must be right now taking advantage of town's newbiness.

You're very likely one of these scum because if you're town then idk how the fuck you think these generic tells are valid.

An experienced town player doesn't get the same three scumreads as everyone without ever questioning.
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Post Post #507 (isolation #91) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:45 pm

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In post 487, Lalendra wrote:
In post 486, Creature wrote:
In post 484, Lalendra wrote:
In post 480, Creature wrote:I don't think he's a liability, atleast not the biggest liability.
Who would you say is the biggest liability then?
Anyone who somehow got to the conclusion pisskop and mutant are both scum with me as scum defending them and still somehow defends it without ever doubting.
Which is who? I feel like you're making soft pushes without really naming names, and leaving yourself room to change your mind later.
CommKnight is one, and it shouldn't be hard to find someone with the same three scumreads.
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Post Post #508 (isolation #92) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:48 pm

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In post 494, Chip Butty wrote:Just read CityElectric's ISO. Town, I think.
Not sure. His ISO feels pretty generic too.
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Post Post #512 (isolation #93) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:21 pm

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In post 510, CommKnight wrote:Actually Creature, I'm placing bets on a noob scum-team right now.
Pretty sure pisskop and I aren't noobs.
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Post Post #523 (isolation #94) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:26 pm

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Fun fact: I've whiteknighted a lot more players as town with lot more stupid looking reasons. As scum, almost never.

I'll bring links when I get to PC, but it should be clear my interactions with mutantdevle is my normal town self.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #95) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:29 pm

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You should check out some of my completed games btw, you'll see this is my playstyle.
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Post Post #529 (isolation #96) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:01 am

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The problem is that you called him a liability.
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Post Post #531 (isolation #97) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:33 am

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As long it's not a wagon likely flipping town and giving near zero info...
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Post Post #551 (isolation #98) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:37 am

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mod

There are 12 players alive, you didn't take pisskop out of the list.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #99) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:39 am

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pisskop flipping town should give more info, hopefully we attack the players that have been coasting a lot (like CityElectric, Lalendra).
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Post Post #561 (isolation #100) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:55 pm

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In post 554, mutantdevle wrote:I wonder why the scum chose to kill so far down the list?
Protectives, some of them are higher (pretty sure) and some players are unworth nightkilling.
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Post Post #562 (isolation #101) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:57 pm

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In post 560, CommKnight wrote:5 is a sweet spot for scum to pick a number.
Yeah, I've had that feeling one of them had to be scum.
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Post Post #563 (isolation #102) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:59 pm

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I'm rn at:
1. There's scum on pisskop wagon
2. There's scum above MisaTange's spot
3. There's scum on 5
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Post Post #565 (isolation #103) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:21 am

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There were quite a lot of players flipflopping between you and pisskop.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #104) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:27 am

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We could like focus on getting scum.

There are plenty of never-pressured-this-game players that deserve to be pressured.
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Post Post #579 (isolation #105) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:05 am

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In post 575, Chip Butty wrote:Back later. CK and Creature: If you're town, try to post something more intelligent.
Why didn't scum attack someone higher than MisaTange?
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Post Post #584 (isolation #106) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:42 am

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In post 583, wilky wrote:Or players that haven't brought the game forward at all or even tried to (like Creature).
I was voting Aster and CommKnight, which is bringing the game forward rather than parking on mutant or pisskop the entire day.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #107) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:43 am

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In post 582, mutantdevle wrote:@Creature, how come you haven't told us you've played one of these games before?
Didn't feel the need to. It isn't rocket science.
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Post Post #586 (isolation #108) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:46 am

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In post 580, Aster wrote:An excellent question. Now how about you use some of your bountiful intelligence to answer it as well? Or is your brilliance better used by just shoving the actual scumhunting to others?
Oh sure, I was giving you CommKnight and even Viomi, but you still insisted on just parking on mutant or pisskop.

CityElectric, Lalendra, northsidegal and Viomi are like the most generic players and scum are usually generic. Sheeping others and not having unique opinions is a good way to stay under the radar.
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Post Post #589 (isolation #109) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:56 am

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In post 587, mutantdevle wrote:Creature, you defending me makes more sense now that I've read some of your previous game in this setup.

Creature was shot night 3 in his last game because he was second in the draft list and hence most likely to be a PR. So it makes sense that he would understand my logic.
I'm not defending you because of what happened at that game, I'm defending you because I genuinely think it wasn't a scum attempt to rolefish.
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Post Post #613 (isolation #110) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:22 am

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In post 598, northsidegal wrote:
In post 586, Creature wrote:CityElectric, Lalendra, northsidegal and Viomi are like the most generic players and scum are usually generic. Sheeping others and not having unique opinions is a good way to stay under the radar.
generic
? i haven't sheeped a single person this game – everyone else sheeped me. i'm still confident that i caught scum at the start of the day yesterday, but this is just a flat out lie.

VOTE: creature
It's more that I feel you've been doing the most obvious choice (actually you just voteparked mutant D1).
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Post Post #614 (isolation #111) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:24 am

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Hey Viomi and Chip Butty, who should we wagon?
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Post Post #649 (isolation #112) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:11 am

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Why do players think any attempt to interact (instead of attacking) with someone is buddying?
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Post Post #651 (isolation #113) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:12 am

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Don't claim yet.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #114) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:17 pm

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No sure if I can do anything more today, but Viomi's wagon is over.
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Post Post #706 (isolation #115) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:51 pm

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Status: Ignoring maths.
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Post Post #710 (isolation #116) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:17 am

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Sure, I'm aways protecting my buddies...
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Post Post #718 (isolation #117) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:41 am

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"Viomi's wagon is over" as "I'm ending this wagon"
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Post Post #750 (isolation #118) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:21 am

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Hey I'm there and I'm thinking Viomi is a mislynch. I've sort of struggled to have a decent townread on her, but like I think I should avoid another mislynch like this.
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Post Post #751 (isolation #119) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:21 am

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I was like pegging CommKnight and CityElectric as both scum.
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Post Post #752 (isolation #120) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:22 am

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If you want reasons:
CommKnight because he still seems different from how I picture him as town;
CityElectric because he has been generic and seems the most coasty.
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Post Post #753 (isolation #121) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:23 am

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(CityElectric's actually V/LA, but I still think that whenever he posted he didn't want any attention)
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Post Post #754 (isolation #122) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:24 am

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Btw, Viomi, the player you're wagoning is known for lurking (as any alignment) and I expect him to be a potential mislynch, are you sure there?
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Post Post #755 (isolation #123) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:25 am

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Out of the five above:
Texcat - 2: I townread
Northsidegal - 3: I townread
Assemblerotws - 4: Is a potential mislynch bait
CommKnight - 6: I scumread
Mutantdevle - 8: I townread
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Post Post #757 (isolation #124) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:40 am

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A yes or no question:
Is the meta just related to his activity?
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Post Post #759 (isolation #125) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:16 am

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Fair then.

You still think Viomi is the best way to go?
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Post Post #761 (isolation #126) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:38 am

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Yeah, the lack of counterwagons is worrying me.

I'm also worried about the number of players not voting.
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Post Post #770 (isolation #127) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:57 am

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It's more that no one's getting towncred if Viomi flips scum lol
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Post Post #772 (isolation #128) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:01 am

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Vote Count 1.Final

CommKnigt (1) - Creature
Creature - (1) Texcat
northsidegal -
Aster - (3) Pisskop, MisaTange
texcat -
Viomi - (2) Aster
mutantdevle - (1) northsidegal,
pisskop - (8) CityElectric, Commknight, wilky, Chip Butty, Lalendra, Viomi, Assemblerotws, mutantdevle

Chip Butty -
Lalendra -
wilky -
CityElectric -
MisaTange -
Assemblerotws -

No Lynch -

Not Voting:

With 14 Alive. Takes 8 To Lynch. 7 To No Lynch.

Vote Count 2.3
CommKnight -
Creature -
northsidegal -
Aster -
texcat -
Viomi (6) - Lalendra, texcat, wilky, Commknight, Assemblerotws, Chip Butty
mutantdevle -
Chip Butty -
Lalendra -
wilky -
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Assemblerotws (1) - Viomi

Not Voting: Creature, northsidegal, Aster, mutantdevle, City Electric

With 12 Alive. Takes 7 To Lynch. 6 To No Lynch.
V/LA : CityElectric Dec 16
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Post Post #773 (isolation #129) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:02 am

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Fun fact: There are five players part of pisskop mislynch wagon on Viomi rn.
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Post Post #776 (isolation #130) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:09 am

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Yeah, this town is sheeping too much.
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Post Post #777 (isolation #131) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:12 am

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In post 774, mutantdevle wrote:Perhaps this is me being used to a different site meta but I don't really see what's so concerning about a lack of a counter wagon. Is there usually always supposed to be one round these parts? Additionally, perhaps a lack of counter wagon could suggest that the scum are on Viomi's wagon? Other than that I'd give the explanation that most people here do actually think Viomi is scummy but are just unprepared to lynch.
For me it's more that having one single wagon during all day is usually anti-town and pro-scum because if it's a mislynch scum got a free day basically. If there's just a single wagon so far you'll either assume there are scum along lazy town or the shitty scenario where the entire wagon is composed of just lazy town which means scum probably already won.
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Post Post #778 (isolation #132) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:13 am

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tl,dr;

One single wagon gives lot less info for town than a wagon with counterwagons.
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Post Post #779 (isolation #133) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:14 am

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In post 775, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 773, Creature wrote:Fun fact: There are five players part of pisskop mislynch wagon on Viomi rn.
Compare that to my wagon when it was at its peak and then we'd have a list of the carefree sheepy voters.
Sure. I'm seeing Lalendra and CommKnight on all of the three generic wagons.
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Post Post #781 (isolation #134) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:59 pm

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VOTE: CommKnight
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Post Post #787 (isolation #135) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:51 am

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Hopefully wilky's replacement will be a good player and whip this town hard.

Whoever tried to do that before suddenly became scumread.
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Post Post #789 (isolation #136) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:54 am

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For your info, I already had my reasons to vote CommKnight before Aster's case.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #137) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:55 am

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I could also do CityElectric because I don't like how he interacted with me. I expect scum to interact with potential mislynches like he did.
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Post Post #793 (isolation #138) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:22 am

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The Viomi wagoners love to leave Viomi ignored.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #139) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:24 am

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Is a replacement coming?
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Post Post #795 (isolation #140) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:26 am

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rn we can stick to a CommKnight wagon or we can wagon either CityElectric or Lalendra.
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Post Post #796 (isolation #141) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:27 am

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northsidegal also doesn't look that good.
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Post Post #798 (isolation #142) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:19 am

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What do you make out of it?
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Post Post #811 (isolation #143) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:15 pm

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In post 806, texcat wrote:I'm hoping City Electric will hammer when they come back from VLA. Sigh.
I'm hoping somebody good will replace wilky.
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Post Post #863 (isolation #144) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:19 am

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In post 862, CheekyTeeky wrote:Scum - Creature, Pisskop, Mutant, Assemble
That's basically the mislynch list, just missing Viomi.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #145) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:21 am

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Do you scumread NSG independent of Viomi's alignment?
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Post Post #868 (isolation #146) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:22 am

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Yes, I saw the "So far I understand your reads as" part. Just pointing out what should be obvious.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #147) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:25 am

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Lalendra is leading the wagon and CommKnight who has been in every generic mislynch wagon is on it, so yes, I think it's a mislynch.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #148) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:29 am

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In post 871, CheekyTeeky wrote:Creature why do you scumread Lalendra?
Like CityElectric, I don't like the way she interacts with me and how her reads are very common with the others.
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Post Post #879 (isolation #149) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:58 am

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In post 874, Viomi wrote:Scum: texcat
Curious on this read.
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Post Post #881 (isolation #150) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:08 am

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What do you think about Lalendra and CityElectric?
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Post Post #896 (isolation #151) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:27 pm

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I don't see the need to use math.

Otherwise I could say everybody IMPOV has ~27% chance of being scum.
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Post Post #925 (isolation #152) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:49 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #931 (isolation #153) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:48 am

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What do you think about this?
In post 880, CommKnight wrote:I'm still laughing, I explained it out and people still don't understand it. I'm sure scum figured it out by now. Also LOL at Viomi's scum reads ALL being in the top 5 drafting order, get lynched scum.
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Post Post #936 (isolation #154) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:06 am

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In post 932, CheekyTeeky wrote:What brought it to your attention Creature?
The "I'm sure scum figured it out" part.
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Post Post #952 (isolation #155) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:52 am

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Hopefully you're all aware they're known lurkers as any alignment.
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Post Post #963 (isolation #156) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:47 am

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How likely it is to Assemble play the game today?
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Post Post #980 (isolation #157) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:29 am

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In post 974, Chip Butty wrote:I really want to lynch CK.
I don't feel like anymore.
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Post Post #983 (isolation #158) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:32 am

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Not sure if I buy entirely noob scum team.
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Post Post #987 (isolation #159) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:46 am

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Well, whoever we push we might out a 3rd PR. A VT outed is also bad.
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Post Post #996 (isolation #160) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:06 pm

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In post 993, Chip Butty wrote:Can you explain the second quote in light of the first?
The first quote shows softing.

The second quote is because of how Comm has been acting lately.
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #161) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:34 am

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First because he was softing then because he started towning up.
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Post Post #1013 (isolation #162) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:36 am

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In post 1011, CityElectric wrote:I crazy dislike how Creature has been dancing
You shouldn't look for scum around the people that are dancing. You should look for scum around the people shily sitting against the wall away from the center of attention.
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #163) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:50 am

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In post 1015, CityElectric wrote:
In post 1013, Creature wrote:You should look for scum around the people shily sitting against the wall away from the center of attention.
Again, if that's how you feel, you might as well start now by putting your vote/questions/cases where your mouth is. If you're so sure there's scum in that area, start pressuring them, ask questions, vote them, but do something more than 'I say they are scum now please wagon'.
Like how I've done with CommKnight?
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #164) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:34 am

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I guess I'm gonna be here for the deadline. Not sure if I am up to start another wagon myself as I don't feel very confident anymore.
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #165) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:35 am

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Still would rather have someone else lynched.
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #166) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:08 am

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CommKnight doesn't need to hardclaim a role.
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #167) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:09 am

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Whatever

VOTE: Aster

If a bigger wagon appears I might change to it.
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #168) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:15 am

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Lalendra's 1030 is scummy imo.
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Post Post #1034 (isolation #169) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:26 am

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Yeah, we kind of forgot northside.
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Post Post #1036 (isolation #170) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:55 am

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Thinking Aster, Lalendra and northsidegal.
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #171) » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:22 am

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Aster and City aren't that bad scumreads.
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #172) » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:46 am

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You'll be there before the deadline, right?
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #173) » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:46 pm

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In post 1046, Aster wrote:On another note, I'm noticing a strong buddying between mutant and Creature, a strong buddying between Creature and CommKnight, and a strong buddying between CommKnight and mutant. This suggests a Mutant/Creature/CommKnight scumteam.
This isn't exactly how being scum works...
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #174) » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:39 pm

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I hope KidAmn doesn't take too long. I'm not interested in lynching CommKnight.
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #175) » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:39 pm

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Oh nevermind, the deadline expanded.
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Post Post #1075 (isolation #176) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:10 am

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We could like experiment a new wagon.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #177) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:23 am

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From your options, I'm most fine with Aster or Chip.
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #178) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:25 am

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In post 1077, CommKnight wrote:2 scum in 1
or 7 or
5
and 1 scum above MisaTange
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Aka:
northsidegal
CityElectric
Lalendra
Aster
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #179) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:25 am

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Chip Butty is more of a question mark for me.
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #180) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:56 am

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Wait, you think CK is actually scum or just a huge moron?
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #181) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:16 am

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"pisskop was a reasonable wagon"
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #182) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:18 am

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Congratulations, northsidegal. You won your scum game. I hope you enjoyed playing scum even though it wasn't much of a challenge.
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #183) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:18 am

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You too, Lalendra. Nobody even dared to touch a finger on you.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #184) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:20 am

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Also congrats for the third scum that I haven't found yet even though it doesn't matter anymore.
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Post Post #1095 (isolation #185) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:13 am

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Would rather do Lalendra over northsidegal because of PRs.
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #186) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:03 pm

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X: I'm an innocent child.
Mod: X is indeed an innocent child.
texcat: X is still on my scum list.
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Post Post #1119 (isolation #187) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:07 pm

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VOTE: Chips
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #188) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:49 pm

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It's funny how you, with some others, aren't afraid of lynching a town PR.
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #189) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:55 pm

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In post 1136, northsidegal wrote:how do you know he's a town pr and not a scum pr?
It doesn't matter mostly. Town is usually hesitant to lynching a PR claim no matter their read. The lack of hesitation usually comes from scum because they don't want to preserve PRs other than themselves.
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Post Post #1147 (isolation #190) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:56 pm

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Hopefully I can wake up tomorrow without having to see a dead town PR.
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Post Post #1167 (isolation #191) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:02 am

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Someone who's claimed PR, even in a game where PR is NAI, usually makes someone hesitant to wagon.

You were all pretty hesitant wanting to lynch a VT D1, now it all disappeared with CommKnight?
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Post Post #1169 (isolation #192) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:07 am

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In post 1156, CheekyTeeky wrote:Creature you've been pretty adamant that mutant is town. Now you're hard defending Comm as town after thinking he's scum initially.
How does this correlate?
Who is scum?
I guess I already said it plenty of times:
It's most likely three from {Aster, CityElectric, Lalendra, northsidegal and now Chip Butty}
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #193) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:09 am

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There's a major difference between CK before his wagon and CK after his wagon.
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Post Post #1171 (isolation #194) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:09 am

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Like Viomi before and after her wagon.
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Post Post #1176 (isolation #195) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:30 am

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Viomi, do you think it was pisskop's fault he was lynched or the wagoners' fault?
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Post Post #1177 (isolation #196) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:31 am

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Did you know that town flails more frequently than scum?
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Post Post #1179 (isolation #197) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:42 am

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In post 1178, Viomi wrote:PEDIT: Definitely pisskop's. I'd policy lynch him every game I play with him regardless of alignment. He plays anti-town even when he's town just so his scumgame is "harder to detect", rather than playing to win. Which I'm pretty sure is against the rules, but whatever.
Weird, he was one of the easiest players to read this game.
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Post Post #1180 (isolation #198) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:42 am

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and he has done plenty of stuff.

So shouldn't CityElectric or Lalendra be policy lynched?
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Post Post #1181 (isolation #199) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:44 am

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In post 1178, Viomi wrote:And I'm not so concerned about his flailing, I'm concerned that people are jumping off of him onto new wagons so easily. It seems like scumbuddies trying to get another mislynch in rather than letting him die.
He can't have more than two scumbuddies. How many players are pushing counterwagons?
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