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How can you be pretty sure if he doesn't specify? I assumed he was talking about the first to mention alignment.In post 21, Wickedestjr wrote:Unvote. Vote: TwoInAMillion
for already misreading. Pretty sure he wasn't criticizing wavemode.- TwoInAMillion
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wave was the first one to say he was town.In post 10, humaneatingmonkey wrote:VOTE: Flubbernugget
When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time.- TwoInAMillion
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I'm not sure anymore. Half of me thinks he was serious and half thinks he was joking.In post 43, Chip Butty wrote:In post 10, humaneatingmonkey wrote:VOTE: Flubbernugget
When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time.
You meant he criticised flubber, not wave, right?In post 18, TwoInAMillion wrote:VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
He criticizes wavemode for "telling him who he is", but then votes someone else.- TwoInAMillion
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The two other scum?In post 49, Sergtacos wrote:
Whats there to hunt when you already found one scum?In post 48, Chip Butty wrote:In post 20, Sergtacos wrote:
Vote HEM pleaseIn post 19, Sephiroth wrote:
VOTE: flubbernuggetFlubbernugget wrote:Not me
Seems like a pretty open and shut case to me.
That doesn't look like scum hunting to me.In post 46, wavemode wrote:"at this point"? Is it ever too early to scumhunt?- TwoInAMillion
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I'm so offended.In post 52, Sergtacos wrote:
Oh thats easy, Chip and you. Bam.In post 51, TwoInAMillion wrote:
The two other scum?In post 49, Sergtacos wrote:
Whats there to hunt when you already found one scum?In post 48, Chip Butty wrote:In post 20, Sergtacos wrote:
Vote HEM pleaseIn post 19, Sephiroth wrote:
VOTE: flubbernuggetFlubbernugget wrote:Not me
Seems like a pretty open and shut case to me.
That doesn't look like scum hunting to me.In post 46, wavemode wrote:"at this point"? Is it ever too early to scumhunt?- TwoInAMillion
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There's no serious reason to claim scum. This is a normal game and I don't see Jester being a role.In post 60, Sephiroth wrote:
I mean, was it clearly a joke? Maybe. But we're less than 24 hours into Day 1 and if you've noticed Flub hasn't shown up to say anything since. I'm taking it seriously in that its a good enough reason to start a D1 wagon that actually generates discussion. Whether I'm taking it seriously enough to say that I think Flub is scum, obviously not yet. That may change depending on the their next post though. That's kind of the point of an early D1 wagon...see something worth attacking, wagon, see what happens. I think claiming non-town is worth probing, don't you?In post 38, skitter30 wrote:In post 34, Wossi wrote:Maybe because there's not really any town reason to claim scum?
There isn't really any scum reason to claim scum?
Why are you and Sephiroth taking that post seriously when it was clearly a joke?- TwoInAMillion
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Not liking that there are things you might not be upfront about.In post 67, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: wosi
As skitter noted, they waited until it felt safe to hop on my wagon before voting.
I also scum read chip butty. In 44 they remove their rvs vote, but in the subsequent post place a new rvs vote.
Sephiroph, I think you are town, but I don't like the activity precedent you are trying to set, and I'm being upfront now about probably not following it.
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Miller claims are usually true unless there is a counter. A lot of risk involved in a scum Miller claim.
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I would say maybe 25%-33% have millers. So it is pretty risky considering you are almost certain to be lynched if counterclaimed and there is a third the number of scum as town.In post 90, Wossi wrote:In post 86, TwoInAMillion wrote:Miller claims are usually true unless there is a counter. A lot of risk involved in a scum Miller claim.
On the other hand, you probably don't want a claimed Miller in lylo unless it's someone you trust as a good player and it is an optimal situation. Too many ways the Miller claim cam divert attention in the wrong direction.
Do most games have millers? I don't think so.... it seems like it be pretty decent odds actually to fake claim miller and not get counter claimed.- TwoInAMillion
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[quote= Sephiroth"] I also REALLY don't like Post 68 from twoinamillion. The reasoning seems manufactured and they had JUST finished trying to shut down any discussion involving Flub's claim. Seems a little sketchy to interpret Flub's post that way and turn it into a vote..[/quote]
Not "trying" to turn anything into any vote. It's my feelings on flub and way more concrete reasoning than a lot of the votes so far.- TwoInAMillion
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In post 82, skitter30 wrote:Not convinced that the miller claim is real, leaning towards it being fake. Also not convinced that it's AI if it's fake. I could see scum!Taco claiming it based on how Mini Normal 1946 worked out. I can also see town!Taco fake-claiming it for the lolz. I have little to no confidence in my ability to read him.
Taco, why are you pushing HEM atm?
Chip, why are you making a series of RVS votes and unvotes? What do you think about the Flubber thing?
Implosion, I like your posting, and agree with most of it. Why the townlean on Tacos?
Scumlean on wossi.
VOTE: wossiIn post 93, Sergtacos wrote:
I love attentionIn post 81, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I really don't buy that claim from Serg, but I'm not ready to give up my Flubbernugget vote. I've been with him on a miller game before and he had seen someone claim on the first post. I would have thought he would have claimed in his first post. Instead, he tried to push a wagon on me for ????? reasons.
Those who joke about being scum are highly scummy for me. It deserves attention. Also, how people FOUND A WAY to attack me for a CLEAR CUT vote definitely makes me think I'm on to something. Looking at you, 2inamil.
Serg, 2inamil, and Flubbernugget deserve attention today.
but hey lets sheep. VOTE: Flubbernugget
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I'm actually not doing that either. I was pushing that it was anti-town to not answer a direct question about his miller claim.In post 161, TwoInAMillion wrote:I'm not liking Sergtacos pushing the claiming scum thing...
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I think flub is probably town so it's a bad push in my book.In post 203, Chip Butty wrote:
It wasn't a bad push, it was an early d1 pressure push. Please return to the noob queue until you get the concept.In post 200, TwoInAMillion wrote:I thought the bad push on flub was more anti-town than then flub's idiot posting.- TwoInAMillion
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So you've gone from flub scum to flub idiot to flub town how?In post 208, iDanyboy wrote:In post 206, TwoInAMillion wrote:I think flub is probably town so it's a bad push in my book.
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my bad Post 225 is wrong. UNVOTE:In post 244, iDanyboy wrote:In post 240, TwoInAMillion wrote:I don't know what you're getting at. The weak reasoning was believing a miller claim to be fake just for the sake of it.
Why do you find Wossi scummy?
It seems like the more pressure he is getting the more lurking he is doing.- TwoInAMillion
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Can you post examples?In post 251, humaneatingmonkey wrote:lmao you caught me.
scum with day chat usually type up paragraphs to demonstrate how town they are. we should just lynch based on the amount of words per post lol- TwoInAMillion
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I didn't "want to push you" until you posted about the word count. You didn't answer my question about the game you played in being an outlier or not. There was a purpose to your post, even if you were "kidding". It's not in finding scum.
I'm pretty sure my push was well explained more so than your original word count posts.- TwoInAMillion
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In post 262, skitter30 wrote:
I don't think word-count in general is a scumtell. Some people post one-liners. Some people post paragraphs. Like the length of my posts has absolutely nothing to do with my alignment (the number of posts I make on the other hand . . . . )In post 257, humaneatingmonkey wrote:My eyes rolled so far back that I felt my brain touch my iris.
I was kidding. But I'm still on the lookout for well-curated posts because it screams day chat editing. I'm also not wrong.
While I agree that this is a thing that could happen (heck, I did it in 1946), I don't think that well-curated posts are inherently a scumtell. People could just be good at writing.
Now, if someone who usually spam-posts one-liners randomly wrote a long post filled with paragraphs, capitalization and long-winded explanations, I would find that sketchy.
Two, I legit have no idea what you're going on about.
You're accusing him of setting up mislynches based on word count, but I don't think anyone here would let a lynch go through solely using that reasoning. Like I don't think that would ever actually happen, so I don't think he'd actually try to push long-posts = scum. He's making a general observation, yes. Do I think it's unfounded, yes. Do I think he's seriously going to push people based on that, no. So do I think he's using this to set-up mislynches, no.
This last exchange has dropped you from hard-null to scumlean.
I've seen people pushed for much sillier reasons. I'm more trying to get into his state of mind than actually saying this will cause a mislynch.- TwoInAMillion
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*sigh* My point was that that is what could happen if he followed through with his line of logic.In post 272, skitter30 wrote:Above, it sounds like you were accusing him of trying to set-up mislynches.- TwoInAMillion
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I don't agree with the quanity over quality philosophy.In post 315, Wossi wrote:
I like this post, and I share this logic on wagons.In post 65, Sephiroth wrote:
Lets be clear here. A wagon is not the same as a lynch. I am not in a rush to lynch. I AM in a rush to start a substantial wagon because it takes us out of the random stage and into the actual game. The longer we're in RVS the longer people can lurk and make excuses like "I have nothing to work with!" to be completely non-committal.In post 64, TwoInAMillion wrote:Because I don't want to see town lynched?
We are a day into the game, there's a lot more left to happen day 1. Why the rush?
Are you saying you don't want us to wagon anyone? Not sure how its pro-town to just not pressure anyone out of fear of lynching. It takes 7 to lynch, it only takes like 3-4 to constitute a wagon.
I don't like TwoInAMillion's answer that he doesn't want to pursue bad wagons. There's so much information that can be revealed even by poorly reasoned wagons- TwoInAMillion
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You literally just said any wagon is a good wagon.In post 318, Wossi wrote:
They're not mutually exclusiveIn post 317, TwoInAMillion wrote:
I don't agree with the quanity over quality philosophy.In post 315, Wossi wrote:
I like this post, and I share this logic on wagons.In post 65, Sephiroth wrote:
Lets be clear here. A wagon is not the same as a lynch. I am not in a rush to lynch. I AM in a rush to start a substantial wagon because it takes us out of the random stage and into the actual game. The longer we're in RVS the longer people can lurk and make excuses like "I have nothing to work with!" to be completely non-committal.In post 64, TwoInAMillion wrote:Because I don't want to see town lynched?
We are a day into the game, there's a lot more left to happen day 1. Why the rush?
Are you saying you don't want us to wagon anyone? Not sure how its pro-town to just not pressure anyone out of fear of lynching. It takes 7 to lynch, it only takes like 3-4 to constitute a wagon.
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No it's common sense.In post 321, Wossi wrote:
I think I responded to this earlier, and this is definitely a tin foil, but this post reads to me like scum defending a buddy's fake miller claimIn post 86, TwoInAMillion wrote:Miller claims are usually true unless there is a counter. A lot of risk involved in a scum Miller claim.
On the other hand, you probably don't want a claimed Miller in lylo unless it's someone you trust as a good player and it is an optimal situation. Too many ways the Miller claim cam divert attention in the wrong direction.- TwoInAMillion
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My 66% winning percentatge says otherwise.In post 338, Chip Butty wrote:
I'd shoot the guy my vote is on (wave), obv. Kind of a non-question. Also for neglecting me.In post 337, Wossi wrote:
don't feel neglected.In post 336, Chip Butty wrote:
I feel neglectedIn post 327, wavemode wrote:wossi/seph/wave/skitter/serg towny
I would vote lalendra, tiam, wicked, possibly implosion
If you had an instant one shot bullet right now and had to use it, who would you shoot?
Also, what is the best strategy for reading somebody like TwoInAMillion?
First time playing with TIAM. Strikes me as a lynchbait type. Best way to read is through that filter.- TwoInAMillion
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No that's my chance for a second date with a cute girl.In post 342, Chip Butty wrote:
Oh okay. I thought "two-in-a-million" was your winning stats...In post 340, TwoInAMillion wrote: My 66% winning percentatge says otherwise.- TwoInAMillion
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Not terrible.In post 368, iDanyboy wrote:
My 40% winning percentage says otherwise.In post 365, TwoInAMillion wrote:iDannyboy is probably town but I think he could do a better job of getting opinions from others and not just forming conclusions by himself.
What do you think of HEM replacing out. Do you think it had to do with the pressure he was getting?- TwoInAMillion
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If you say that posting immediately makes you town, than that is WIFOM.In post 379, Mulch wrote:
I don't really care if you scumread me tbh. Also, if I were you I woild be sheeping people with better reads than you.In post 376, TwoInAMillion wrote:First thing you have to say is WIFOM? Doesn't exactly make me think you're town.
Finally you don't know what wifom is. Sorry bud- TwoInAMillion
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You're voting for someone you think is towny?In post 404, Mulch wrote:OK, that's it for today. I'm going to be pretty low effort and low time to this game.
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WIFOM, thinking that the miller claim was townie but still thinking he's scum, you tried to buddy me as scum in our earlier game.In post 423, Mulch wrote:
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