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[Nero Cain]

Spoiler:

How many clicked on this thinking it said something useful?

VOTE: pisskop

[Nero Cain]

I replaced Carcalilly. Dunno why the mods didn't say anything.

[Nero Cain]

eh

VOTE: Mulch

[Nero Cain]

ok

vote: Raskolnikov

[Nero Cain]

jesus

yes?

[Nero Cain]

do you believe scum!Moz would outright go for scum!Rasks defense like this?

yes

Update that Nero Cain replaced Carcalilly,

better late than never

[Nero Cain]

policy dayvig: Mulch

vote: texcat

[Nero Cain]

ewwwwww

vote:wavemode

[Nero Cain]

Your post was LAMIST. The appeal to majority is super scummy.

[Nero Cain]

Why is it scummy to not like Wave's post?

[Nero Cain]

but wave is actually scum so....

[Nero Cain]

^
scums helper

[Nero Cain]

hello, not town response.

[Nero Cain]

I wouldn't mind lynching Fykus but I think Wave is scum so?

[Nero Cain]

TBF, Massive and I got it b/c we are 90's kids.

Mulch, regardless of alignment, isn't going to jokingly or not tell you who he killed. Its a kinda dumb thing for you to ramp on.

[Nero Cain]

Does it matter? Obviously, you are implying that you have better reads and that I should sheep you and/or trust you that wave is town but A.) I don't care B.) I don't think you are that accurate. I'd also like to add that you are

confirmed

town but scum's not even worried about keeping you alive. :/

or you know you could talk like a normal person instead of trying to strongarm a not wave/textcat lynch.

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: massive

thoughts

no

[Nero Cain]

Carca said she got a "no result", was replaced by Nero Cain, we never got an explanation.

So at least Nero could speak his mind, even if we don't do a massclaim?

What are you asking me to do?

[Nero Cain]

I think Boon should never be listened too. I'm not the vig though.

[Nero Cain]

this is how I think I feel right now.


wavemode
acidphoenix
Fykus
UnaBombaH
texcat
massive
Mulch (replaces Vedith)
Nero Cain (replaces Carcalilly)

[Nero Cain]

texcat(3) massive, Mulch, acidphoenix
wavemode(2) Nero Cain, UnaBombaH
Fykus (1) texcat

not voting-Fykus, wavemode

it takes 5 to lynch.

[Nero Cain]

Ill post some thoughts later

Sorry guys. Ill try and post something useful today after work

Thanks nero. Ill try do some "vca" tonight

like I really think you could be stalling scum here.

[Nero Cain]

I'm seeing no reason to mass claim other than giving scum a roadmap of whom to shoot. I'm flipping town but feel free to "vig" me.

[Nero Cain]

I SHOT

JAMES BRAFIN THEN

KAMINA

THEN ASSEMBLER

I also have a very hard time beliving that scum would shoot Moz.

[Nero Cain]

I guess if I had to pick I'd like to hear acidphoenix's fakeclaim.

[Nero Cain]

me a liability-ha!

[Nero Cain]

but if your whole thing is just you wanting to be counterclaimed/not counterclaimed we don't need a massclaim for that. I think you are just scum trying to out info. You are right though, you can't take me any further into this game b/c I'm getting you and whatever else scum might be out there.

[Nero Cain]

sure but that's not what you re doing.

[Nero Cain]

I mean, yes, you

ARE

trying to draw out the other guy with bullets/knives but you are also just trying to draw out as much setup info as you can and that's not town.

[Nero Cain]

I mean, I've already solved this.

this is how I think I feel right now.

wavemode
acidphoenix
Fykus

UnaBombaH
texcat
massive
Mulch (replaces Vedith)
Nero Cain (replaces Carcalilly)

[Nero Cain]

no, I'm not going to let you fuck this town over

[Nero Cain]

you give your scumbuddy a road map of who to shoot.

[Nero Cain]

like I'm not understanding your logic at all here. You were all like "hey everyone name your top two scum reads" me and una vote you for it, then you claim vig here and demand we mass claim.

I never lurked in this game. lol

[Nero Cain]

Nero if you're town in this game I'm legit not playing with you again

you know Mulch pulled this same tactic when he was scum. Like you aren't using the word "blacklist" but its effectively the same thing.


but lets have a real talk, why do you think I'm scum or is it just "4$$$$%&^%$%&^%$ Nero isn't doing what I want! &^%$#%$#@"?

[Nero Cain]

more insults. Its like I'm dealing with a 3-year-old.

[Nero Cain]

and attacking anyone who tries to get active and put in effort to win it

btw, my other two scumreads are massive lurkers. Like are you scum that's just throwing anything you can and hope it sticks or just a kid having a temper tantrum? Maybe a little of both?

[Nero Cain]

this whole "you need to die regardless" is utter bullshit and you know it.

[Nero Cain]

I CAN NOT LEAVE YOU ALIVE NERO, THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE

Why, 'cause I hurt your feelings? I blocked your rolefishing? Or are you just a power hungry ego like Boon and so many other of your kind.

[Nero Cain]

You continuing to dodge the question of any real reason for me to be gambiting this, is also not doing you any favors

I like how you keep lightly calling me scum but you know I'll rip your "logic" apart. You claiming vig as mafia or SK is just self-preservation.

[Nero Cain]

b/c it does nothing but out prs and tell scum who to shoot. I know your dismissive of it but you know its true.

[Nero Cain]

Claiming vig as mafia doesn't preserve me, it kills me instantly

says the guy who is accusing ME of being scum that has protection. project much?

Claiming vig as SK is possible, but then you can't answer the question of WHAT PARTNER AM I TRYING TO ROLEFISH FOR?

What I believe and what is possible are two different things.

[Nero Cain]

b/c I am a power role you stupid fucks. Mass claim is not always useful and often times it does more harm than good. I sure hope whichever of Acid/Fykus and Wave can pull off this win b/c I fucking hate this town.

[Nero Cain]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73076

of course, Boon shooting like half the town prob helped the most but mass claim didn't help town like at all. Wave thinking mass claim is some super pro-town thing is A.( stupid B.( scum motivated C.( short-sighted D.( all of the above.

I still don't really think he's town and I'm not moving my vote. Even if no one CC's him being an SK is a strong possibility I think.

do

NOT

let him go to lylo.

[Nero Cain]

I've also been in a ton of games where mass claim does fuck all. But I guess Wave being kinda new and not really understanding things kinda makes sense.

[Nero Cain]

Mulch needs to claim right the fuck now though.

[Nero Cain]

I also feel like Wave is playing differently. Its obviously b/c he's a pr and/or scum. I lean the latter though.

[Nero Cain]

acid still not claiming while being around is a joke. Look Wave, I can solve a game without a dumb fuck mass claim. What a joke.

[Nero Cain]

tbf I was already voting him before he claimed so...try to discredit harder?

[Nero Cain]

ummmmmm...no

[Nero Cain]

Nero gamthrowing again, what else is new

Mulch being useless as usual.

[Nero Cain]

lets get acid or fykus then

[Nero Cain]

vote:acid

[Nero Cain]

I guess I need to ask why una thinks Acid it town.

[Nero Cain]

vote:acid

Holy shit you are a game thrower

Why were you not shot last night?

[Nero Cain]

what part of "i tried to get subbed out and didn't receive any mod pms" don't you understand

probably whoever i said d1 besides moz

I don't think I really buy this "I dislike this game so much that I'm going to ask to replace out"

either he's the real vig and he's a town vig

or he's an sk who we've leashed to shoot who we want him to shoot and mafia probably shoot him anyway(which makes this unlikely)

could see mafia buddying a guy with bullets/knives

and poe? like Fykus seems p scummy here and ??? I thought about UNA being scum sheeping my Wave vote but ehhhh....I'm not totally invested in that.

[Nero Cain]

a whole lotta good this has done us.

[Nero Cain]

Why do I need to full claim? I like acid for the last scum.

[Nero Cain]

or actually, I should not full claim and if mafia thinks you guys are going to lynch me then they won't shoot me.

but I should prob claim my results anyways in case I do get shot.

[Nero Cain]

counter argument: We can't confirm you either so we should lynch you right?

[Nero Cain]

and you say I'm game throwing. :/

I'll be happy to claim after you.

[Nero Cain]

fine. vanilla result on massive not vanilla result on Mulch. The rest are dead.

[Nero Cain]

vote:acid

[Nero Cain]

how is that a scumslip?

[Nero Cain]

vote:Mulch

I apparently have a guilty so yeah.

[Nero Cain]

Why is there traitor talk? at all?

[Nero Cain]

how come you've only started talking about a traitor today?

[Nero Cain]

In plain terms: why on earth were you stalling your claim?

I wanted Mulch to claim.

[Nero Cain]

una, what makes you disbelieve my claim?

[Nero Cain]

but everything in general about this "1v1" makes me disbelieve the logic behind both of your plays.

IDK what that means?

[Nero Cain]

vote: una

I am

NOT

a vanilla cop. I just wanted Mulch to claim and the only way Mulch would claim is if I faked a result on him. I am a

tracker

though and Una went nowhere last night and Mulch went nowhere the night before. I found it a little odd that Ras and his team would sacrifice themselves for a vt. Was it all just to sow paranoia?

I think Una's traitor talk is scum that knows that I'm town. I'm not seeing it as a town thought process. Like, my fake result and Mulch's claim not lining up is a really simple thing. Either I caught him or I'm scum that's lying. The traitor thing is tinfoily and complex.

@ the same time though Una

NOT

going anywhere last night almost makes me think town. For Una to be scum and not action last night it means that Fykus did the killing. But Fykus knew he was going to die so him doing the killing would be a pretty smart move.

[Nero Cain]

[Nero Cain]

I have no interest in believing your claims anymore..and as to how you decided to scumread me for analyzing your contradicting claims.

this is so dumb.

[Nero Cain]

Why on earth would a last scum Nero ever attempt to fakeclaim in a not lylo situation? Like it makes no fucking sense what-so-ever as all it does is get me lynched. lol

[Nero Cain]

but you gambiting today for a mislynch made no sense,

VOTE: Nero

this is a fast turn around.

I have no interest in believing your claims anymore..and as to how you decided to scumread me for analyzing your contradicting claims.

this is so dumb.

Man, I wouldn't even feel bad if you were to somehow flip town at this point. Your play last day was already wonky for a townie (wanted to lynch our vig, hmm?) and now this whole fake claim thing..

You were sheeping me for a bit, isn't it a bit hypocritical to blame me while absolving yourself? I had also felt like a 13/3/1 setup was a very possible thing.

[Nero Cain]

What did I do that's a "scumslip"?

[Nero Cain]

ummmm...are you really that dense?

[Nero Cain]

dude, I was just selling it. Put on your big girl panties and get over yourself.

[Nero Cain]

(You should've also waited for reactions from acid and massive before retracting that claim)

I mean, this is probs correct here but I didn't really want to leave my vote sitting out there.

@Mulch

Why on earth would a last scum Nero ever attempt to fakeclaim in a not lylo situation? Like it makes no fucking sense what-so-ever as all it does is get me lynched. lol

[Nero Cain]

Was I not supposed to vote a fake guilty?

[Nero Cain]

vote:acid

[Nero Cain]

I gotta think this through. I don't have any problem with Nero's play

but I want to look and think about Una's big post.

What exactly does this mean?

Did Boon claim his role d1?

[Nero Cain]

No fight left in me for this game T_T nero is probtown just at face value, and the abundance of VT claims says his soft is believable

VOTE: texcat and I will shoot Fykus

If neither of these is correct last 2 are within una/acid/massive/nero, in order of most to least likely

I agree with your plan, but disagree with the order in the end.
Maybe we can discuss this tomorrow?
VOTE: texcat

I realize that you were talking to Wave and he's dead but why did you not bring up the lynch order thing today if you had objected to it yesterday.

[Nero Cain]

I

think

I want to follow the una/acid to a town win.

[Nero Cain]

Mulch
Una/nero




Acid








Massive

like ya'lls argument that I had a clear path to win the game here but I'm going to be all chaotic and fake claim a guilty on the guy that has me a bit down his totem pole is a pretty shit argument. I can understand Mulch getting his panties in a bunch but I think its a little sketchy on Una's part. Though TBF, he seems to be kinda going back and forth between calling me scum and calling me town.

[Nero Cain]

If mulch decides we can trust your Tracking-result tomorrow

I might just decide to trust your judgement here.

and these make me feel like he's buddying Mulch.

[Nero Cain]

I was going to say massive->nero,

because Nero would either have to fakeclaim a guilty on me tomorrow, or actually track and lock scum on acid..

Taking away massive today would mean that scum has to kill either you or nero, and if it's you, nero gets a track..

and this is talking like Massive is town since he's rather convinced that the game will continue after a massive flip. Bolded seems kinda manipulative. It's like a preventive discredit. If I track Acid and he's not the killer then it means that its Una but he's already in discredit mode. :/

[Nero Cain]

Why trust his reads over the guy that killed 2 scum(wave)?

[Nero Cain]

that's a pretty immature reaction to a quiestion.

[Nero Cain]

If neither of these is correct last 2 are within

una/acid

/massive/nero, in order of most to least likely

like regardless of alignment you are going to say that wave is wrong on you. What I don't understand is why you think Mulch should be listened to over Wave.

[Nero Cain]

Why trust his reads over the guy who gave you the third? Do I get zero points for catching Rask's bad fake claim?

prob b/c no one knows what your reads are. :/

[Nero Cain]

Whats even the case on him?

[Nero Cain]

yeah, I agree.

[Nero Cain]

Still leaning an acid lynch but I'll talk about my feeling tonight.

[Nero Cain]

oh! the temptation to hammer una is strong. h/o, I need to metadive acid to see if this do nothing playstyle is AI or what.

[Nero Cain]

I kinda think acid is town :/ but yuck!

[Nero Cain]

But I’m actually a weak investigative.

Or I’m a really strong investigative and scum will be hit by that tomorrow.

I think there was a full claim later on but in my mind it wasn't an impossibility that scum roleblocks Boon n1 and thus there wasn't an inno on Mulch.

it's also a little odd that he's still alive.

+

His posts about me "gamethrowing". Only scum knows I'm voting town.

+

his post about post about threatening to report me for game throwing is eerily similar to his posts in another game were he threatened to blacklist a player.

[Nero Cain]

It's massive or nero

Why does last scum Nero fakeclaim to get you to claim? Why would scum have two investigation roles?

[Nero Cain]

hrmmmm....

fykus

,

rask

,

unabombah

scum team?
check out their isos together.

[Nero Cain]

But I'd say this would be the type of coincidence you just lose to, and accept it.

its tin foily so maybe ocamms says no.

vote:massive

[Nero Cain]

I want to know what Rask was attempting to do.