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VOTE: Mozamis

Omgus.

If i can’t get to this tomorrow, I’ll replace. Been busy, 9 days of work out of town in a row.

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Well, can’t beat that deal.

VOTE: Impede

Had me at attractive saleswoman. Nice ploy.

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I don’t understand why people think buzzwords are scummy. They’re definitions and reasonings to explain reads on people.

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Anyone who hammers before this claim can scum claim, unless I Unvote then hammer.

Mm...

Unvote

Still need to claim.

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Yeah, can you sum up why you’re sum reading him?

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Good work saving me, Nero.

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But actually, though...

VOTE: Northside

Fixed for you

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Good work saving me, Nero.

i mean, that's the million dollar question now isn't it? did scum shoot nero or did nero save someone else?

what makes you think nero protected you? even more, what makes you think scum took a shot at you? from his iso it doesn't seem like he crumbed in any way who he was going to protect.

Simple. I’m arrogant.

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But actually, though...

VOTE: Northside

Fixed for you

Thanks, Dunk. You a babe.

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Stop throwing naked votes around and start making your logic known, please.

it's a waste of time explaining vote reasons to scum

if you want to get scum lynched you'll need to convince other people to vote them, too. typically i've found that explaining your reasoning is more effective in getting people to believe you than just repeating your opinion. also, nobody is always right on their first guess - talking through your reads is a great way to make sure that they make sense and stand up to scrutiny.

anyways, just a suggestion.

Scum giving play advice does not equal scum having a fake town agenda, but it does come off townie despite being completely NAI.

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@northsidegal what you might not realize is that you essentially defended Shinobi in a risk free way

Hmm... Why should I vote Shinobi? Oh, I member - he's the dude being naked voted. Ain't worth bothering.

mozamis gave a read

yeah, i realize that and i think that's entirely valid. i don't want to get into a lot of theory talk but without even the pretense of a reason i'd default to not voting someone over voting them. i'm not even questioning your vote on him, i'm just asking you to explain something behind your vote. i presume you have reasons for who you're voting so i'm interested in hearing what they are.

Why are you assuming naked votes don’t have reason behind them? This isn’t RVS. If there’s a naked vote, then there’s reason behind that, just not directly stated. Might not have the words to explain it yet either. To me, this seems like an indirect stab at people voting you and it brushes off credibility. Scum like to have reasons for why they are being voted, typically. Town generally shouldn’t care, because if there aren’t reasons behind the votes, why should it matter? Playing the game will have people realize that.

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Why are you assuming naked votes don’t have reason behind them? This isn’t RVS. If there’s a naked vote, then there’s reason behind that, just not directly stated. Might not have the words to explain it yet either. To me, this seems like an indirect stab at people voting you and it brushes off credibility. Scum like to have reasons for why they are being voted, typically. Town generally shouldn’t care, because if there aren’t reasons behind the votes, why should it matter? Playing the game will have people realize that.

i never said that there wasn't any reason behind their votes - i understand that transcend just plays like this and it seems like lapsa plays similarly. i know (or at least, presume) that they have reasons for their votes, which is what i said if you'll look at what you quoted. what i was trying to say is that while they personally might have reasons for their votes, nobody else knows what those reasons are - i'm not really sure why they're voting shinobi and without a reason i'm not going to vote shinobi myself. really, i'm just trying to be a larger part of the conversation today because i didn't really do anything yesterday, so i wanted to hear people's thoughts - that's why i asked for their reasoning.

Hmm, my obvious implications that I wasn’t talking about Shinobi didn’t go through.

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Why are you assuming naked votes don’t have reason behind them? This isn’t RVS. If there’s a naked vote, then there’s reason behind that, just not directly stated. Might not have the words to explain it yet either. To me, this seems like an indirect stab at people voting you and it brushes off credibility. Scum like to have reasons for why they are being voted, typically. Town generally shouldn’t care, because if there aren’t reasons behind the votes, why should it matter? Playing the game will have people realize that.

i never said that there wasn't any reason behind their votes - i understand that transcend just plays like this and it seems like lapsa plays similarly. i know (or at least, presume) that they have reasons for their votes, which is what i said if you'll look at what you quoted. what i was trying to say is that while they personally might have reasons for their votes, nobody else knows what those reasons are - i'm not really sure why they're voting shinobi and without a reason i'm not going to vote shinobi myself. really, i'm just trying to be a larger part of the conversation today because i didn't really do anything yesterday, so i wanted to hear people's thoughts - that's why i asked for their reasoning.

Hmm, my obvious implications that I wasn’t talking about Shinobi didn’t go through.

if you're talking about your vote on me, where did i imply that your vote didn't have any reason behind it?

if you're going to point to 405, that was me talking about your "arrogant" comment, not your vote.

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Gonna be inactive for the giving days. Be back soon. Won’t hit prod range.

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To be fair, Nero always pushes me as scum. I don’t think I’ve ever been scum with him, either.

@Transcend - if it is that easy, the upcoming days will make it not that easy based on the fact we won’t be able to accept it being that easy.

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Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: Kokichi

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VOTE: a simple plan

Hardcore agree.

VOTE: A Simple Plan

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They killed off the wagon, which means they wanted a high number of the wagon alive.

One scum on, one scum off. I don’t think all scum would be on it, and since Moz was first on Kokichi, then I’m sure there is one more scum on the wagon. But the Shinobi kill is a perfect scum kill to protect Simple Plan since Simple and Shinobi were cross voting, yet Simple can easily brush off that as a reason for scum to kill. Which in that case, I’d expect Simple to go after Sunlit or Lapsa.

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Sick. Okay, so Moz was encryptor so scum can’t communicate now. This is going to be a slow day because of that, likely, so look for some lack of distancing awkward conversations today. This in itself will make Mafia be weary and play separately, which puts them in survival mode, which is obvious to hunt out.

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I feel I have started to do things, with my north side push, and now my ASP push. Interesting that Lapsa stated otherwise.

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Aww, my sunlit diamond.

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I have to think. Part of me is doubting North as scum, but part of me thinks like, that’s a wrap, North is fucking scum.

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Who puts two vig’s in a game besides me...?

And even then, this is just a mini...

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Lol, did Dunker really take my separate specific Night vigilante idea. Man, love you, Dunker.

Unvote

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Oh, thought I was on north side.


VOTE: ASP

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Ah fuck.

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VOTE: Assemblerotws

I think I’m right, and I got cold feet on ASP.

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Why? That was the fakest reaction of all time

I still see it as able to come from town, and Assemble jumped my scumdar. I generally always town read Assemble, even to the point I’ll hardcore defend him and get a wagon off of him.

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I feel I have started to do things, with my north side push, and now my ASP push. Interesting that Lapsa stated otherwise.

interesting that I didn't

Yes, you said i needed to start doing things when I had already.

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Yeah, I can’t find what I was responding to. might have mixed up who said it, but I feel like someone said that myself and someone else needed to start doing things.

I guess I either made it up that you said it, or wrong game, but I feel it was this game...

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That’s partly why I’m getting doubts. It was obviously not a hammer, why would scum even attempt that there?

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I see it as town trying not to die.

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Or he actually thought it was a hammer as town, but I don’t see scum faking that in his position.

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Plus, there is a part of me that can see why lazy, disengaged town could see that as a hammer.

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VOTE: Assemblerotws

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Honestly, game ends with Assemble lynch.

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Unless NM is actually novice cop, Assemble is scum.

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VOTE: Transcend

If game continues, LAST SCUM IS ASSEMBLEROT..

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Vigilante, don’t shoot tonight, or games over.

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And Flavor leaf does it again!!!

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And Flavor leaf does it again!!!

(Lol, I did nothing this game).

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What was your exact role again?

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Haha. Dunker played with a double vig specific night setup like I did in my large. omitting night 1 was nice.

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Aww, my Sunlit.