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[Kokichi Oma]

Mafia, I'm your traitor. Don't kill me please.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

VOTE: Lapsa

[Kokichi Oma]

Both work.

[Kokichi Oma]

So how about instead of RVS. We actually start some conversation. I think Lapsa's vote looked a bit opportunistic.

[Kokichi Oma]

Because he didn't even say anything about it, just voted.

[Kokichi Oma]

The darker blue is preferable. I'm in sepia and often further redden my screen. The teal is difficult to read.

I think Kokichi is scum. Reading opportunism into a vote against them on page 1.

Why would I wait to look into things?

[Kokichi Oma]

Because he didn't even say anything about it, just voted.

how does that make it opportunistic, or scummy? other people did the same thing or something similar, would you say the same thing about them?

Nero's vote didn't seem fabricated to me. And his was the second vote. Soooo~

[Kokichi Oma]

Why not? I'm trying to get the game going. And guess what? It's working~

[Kokichi Oma]

Because he didn't even say anything about it, just voted.

how does that make it opportunistic, or scummy? other people did the same thing or something similar, would you say the same thing about them?

Nero's vote didn't seem fabricated to me. And his was the second vote. Soooo~

Did you neglect to read your first post? You basically baited everyone in this entire game. If anyone is sus, I'd be more inclined to think it's you.

So baiting people to see their reactions is scummy? Got it.

[Kokichi Oma]

Why not?

[Kokichi Oma]

I just wanted to see who would have a weird reaction, and I think I found the person.

[Kokichi Oma]

So baiting people to see their reactions is scummy? Got it.

Things that are scummy:

1. Deliberately playing in a scummy way
   
2. Defending the above as "baiting"

My vote feels comfy.

I don't like how you keep referring about your vote. Like you're trying to convince yourself

[Kokichi Oma]

Also it's not scummy to try and get reactions from others.

[Kokichi Oma]

Why not? I'm trying to get the game going. And guess what? It's working~

i think it's an artifical way to get the game out of rvs, like people who self vote just so they can have the conversation about why self-voting in rvs isn't scummy. you're trying to force the game out of the low-information stage without providing any meaningful information to do so. yeah, saying "i'm scum" in rvs is certain to get people to react which generates content, but is that content really meaningful? what exactly have you gained from this endeavor? what i'm seeing from it are exactly the kind of weak conclusions that i would expect from the kind of content that claiming scum generates - voting someone just because they voted you.

I'm not voting someone because they voted me. I already explained my vote.

[Kokichi Oma]

I just wanted to see who would have a weird reaction, and I think I found the person.

Make up your mind. I wasn't the one who suggested a PL on you page 1.

I still don't know what you were hoping to achieve. I can't see any response to that, organic or fabricated, being AI... especially because anyone in their right mind already suspects that you only posted it to stir the pot, so any reactions you get are WIFOM.

This post is a bit weird, cause I wasn't talking about you. But, the way you answered it is weird for someone you are suspicious of.

[Kokichi Oma]

What does that have to do with anything I did? All I did was make a statement that I knew would draw reactions, and I decided which I didn't like the most. I'm sticking to my read, until something changes from him.

[Kokichi Oma]

What tunnel? I've been pointing out things I didn't like from everyone. I think you're trying to fabricate a tunnel. What have I done to tunnel except vote one person, and not have anything else to say about the person. If anything, you're the one tunneling.

[Kokichi Oma]

Nero's vote didn't seem fabricated to me. And his was the second vote. Soooo~

What does my vote have to do with anything?

Because that's what I based my vote on was the votes

[Kokichi Oma]

but I'm voting Impede.... Can you spell it out to me like I'm 3?

I took your policy kill thing as a vote, that was what I was talking about originally.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

VOTE: Lapsa

Just to make it clear. Kokichi, you think that Lapsa is scum and your argument is, that when sameone claimed scum he voted, 2 posts after it, against the claim whisout reasoning?

I think he's scum because of the way he went about it

[Kokichi Oma]

@Bory

I feel confident in my ability to defend myself if need be

Then why haven't you said anything to me?

[Kokichi Oma]

Also why did you point that out to just Bory? That's a bit weird.

[Kokichi Oma]

North, don't you find it weird that Lapsa pointed that out to just Bora?

[Kokichi Oma]

Lapsa, why did you @ only Bora and not the other people who were in the discussion of semi defending you?

[Kokichi Oma]

Yes, I know.

[Kokichi Oma]

Impede/Lapsa/Bory are all acting strange.

[Kokichi Oma]

What does my dialect have to do with anything? If I think they are acting strange, then I think that.

[Kokichi Oma]

Yes, strange doesn't mean scum or not. I only scumread one person so far. Strange is a way to sort people, which I'm trying to do.

[Kokichi Oma]

Yes, strange doesn't mean scum or not. I only scumread one person so far. Strange is a way to sort people, which I'm trying to do.

Impede/Lapsa/Bory are all acting strange.

What is the point of this list then?

Because the world isn't black or white.

[Kokichi Oma]

I've already explained what makes them all strange. It's not that much to read the last 2 or so pages. And I explained why I scumread Lapsa. All 3 are strange. 1 I scumread hard.

[Kokichi Oma]

Use a dictionary, I've already explained what was strange.

[Kokichi Oma]

I've already explained what was strange about them. Look at the last page

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm starting to think you're hopeless.

[Kokichi Oma]

I think it's strange you can't determine what strange means.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

VOTE: Lapsa

Just to make it clear. Kokichi, you think that Lapsa is scum and your argument is, that when sameone claimed scum he voted, 2 posts after it, against the claim whisout reasoning?

I think he's scum because of the way he went about it

@Bory

I feel confident in my ability to defend myself if need be

Then why haven't you said anything to me?

Also why did you point that out to just Bory? That's a bit weird.

North, don't you find it weird that Lapsa pointed that out to just Bora?

Lapsa, why did you @ only Bora and not the other people who were in the discussion of semi defending you?

[Kokichi Oma]

@Bory

I feel confident in my ability to defend myself if need be

I just wanted to see who would have a weird reaction, and I think I found the person.

Make up your mind. I wasn't the one who suggested a PL on you page 1.

I still don't know what you were hoping to achieve. I can't see any response to that, organic or fabricated, being AI... especially because anyone in their right mind already suspects that you only posted it to stir the pot, so any reactions you get are WIFOM.

This post is a bit weird, cause I wasn't talking about you. But, the way you answered it is weird for someone you are suspicious of.

[Kokichi Oma]

If you really want to investigate Lapsa you would be better off focusing your effort rather than chasing rabbit holes.

Either you're not reading or you are just trying to fit in. Because I clearly tried to engage with him, and he has ignored me for the most part.

[Kokichi Oma]

Kokichi Oma's deliberate refusal to engage with Sunlit Diamond is scummy and anti-town

Are you not reading or? I explained already.

[Kokichi Oma]

This rings scummy to me. Although I fully recognize I did the same thing in my reactions to Nero. Could just be annoyed town lol.

Okay this needs rope.

VOTE: Impede

[Kokichi Oma]

How is it scummy? Read that contradiction within his whole post.

[Kokichi Oma]

Impede/Lapsa/Bory I'm lynching one of them today, and I have pause about a few of Impede's lines already.

[Kokichi Oma]

That doesn't make it any better. It was still an attempt to throw shade.

[Kokichi Oma]

Opportunistic how? I've been talking about them for the last few pages? Maybe you don't understand the meaning of it.

[Kokichi Oma]

Impede is my #1 scumread now.

[Kokichi Oma]

Calling me out? I scum read you before you even scum read me.

[Kokichi Oma]

Can anyone else see how his posts seem staged?

[Kokichi Oma]

You're implying that I care about if my scum read votes me or not.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Kokichi
Your expressed reasons for your scumreads do not line up with reality.
This is L-1.

Explain this

[Kokichi Oma]

Still waiting on Assemble to respond.

[Kokichi Oma]

UNVOTE: Impede

Still waiting on Assemble

[Kokichi Oma]

As bad as I think Impede's posts have been, Assemble's last vote/post was 10 times worst. But, I want to see if he can explain it.

[Kokichi Oma]

Assemble's last vote/post was 10 times worst

I agree that doesn't necessarily mean I think he's scum though.

Same here, which is why I'm waiting.

[Kokichi Oma]

How can I be bad town if I'm pushing your lynch that you want as well?

[Kokichi Oma]

and Assemblerotws

Finally.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Impede

Back on this for now. But I still suspect Assemble as well.

[Kokichi Oma]

do this?

Do what?

[Kokichi Oma]

put him at L-1

You've been pushing on me this whole game, and '*THAT* is the thing you think can be town? Seriously?

[Kokichi Oma]

I got prodded. Kokichi Oma putting the competing wagon to L-1 with reservations looks really bad. Don't see any reason to revise my vote.

You realize I was voting way before it was on L-2 right?

[Kokichi Oma]

Me scum reading Impede?

[Kokichi Oma]

How is it scummy? Read that contradiction within his whole post.

I have to agree that this is really a stretch. I saved you the time of pointing out the contradiction by

pointing it out myself

. I even qualified the entire thing by saying you could be annoyed town.

The very fact that you'd jump on this with a statement like "this one needs rope" is so incredibly scummy.

VOTE: Kokichi

KO at L-2

(provided I'm not terrible at math)

Impede is my #1 scumread now.

Impede is my #1 scumread now.

Makes sense. You wouldn't want to townread someone who's calling you out if you're scum.

Calling me out? I scum read you before you even scum read me.

Can anyone else see how his posts seem staged?

Can anyone else see how his posts seem staged?

This looks a lot like recruiting so you can get attention off yourself. Your phrasing comes off a little manipulative and desperate too, implying anyone who doesn't see your point is somehow missing something.

I'm happy to jump right off this wagon as soon as you start looking town, but I haven't seen anything that comes off as genuine scumhunting from you.

You're implying that I care about if my scum read votes me or not.

[Kokichi Oma]

Pretty much all that. I only unvoted for Assemble to reply to me. I still think Assemble might be scum, but Impede is also scum. I'd be okay switching to a Assemble lynch, though. If that can get going.

[Kokichi Oma]

Day ends in 0 days, 8 hours, 10 minutes

Only 8 hours left

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm surprised he flipped town. Nero was clearly town, though.

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm surprised he flipped town. Nero was clearly town, though.

This is pretty fake news as well

Can't be fake if it's how I really feel.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Assemble

[Kokichi Oma]

How? I was voting them before the L-1. That's a fabricated read.

[Kokichi Oma]

Uh, what? How is activity determine alignment?

[Kokichi Oma]

yeah not sure i like that. you MUST know what i mean, but once again you are reaching and misrepping.
by activity i obv dont just mean post count, i mean game solving, questions, genral appearance of scum hunting which i am getting from him.
we should have done this yesterday
VOTE: ko

So you're saying it's impossible for mafia to game solve/ask questions/scum hunt?

[Kokichi Oma]

Assemble has such organized reads, but fails to be able to explain it.

[Kokichi Oma]

@ assembles what r your reads?

Readlist, from town to scum:
mozamis
Lord Gurgi
Sunlit Diamond
Flavor Leaf
Lapsa
Northsidegal
Transcend
A Simple Plan
Shinobi
Kokichi Oma
VOTE: Kokichi

Assemble has such organized reads, but fails to be able to explain it.

I've already explained why I want you lynched.

Care to explain the other reads you have in exact order? No waffling between two people for who should be higher or anything? You just scumread the 2 people that have the most votes on them.

[Kokichi Oma]

KO seems much more shade throwy and opportunistic

How about you explain?

[Kokichi Oma]

Impede/Lapsa/Bory are all acting strange.

its things like this that ping me

How? I believe I voted the first 2 and I showed why Bory was associated with them. So what pings you?

[Kokichi Oma]

So I'm your top scumread but you are okay with lynching who I've been pushing on for 2 days? Are you saying we are teamed or what?

[Kokichi Oma]

Don't see the reasoning for voting shinobi. I actually this this is a better vote now. VOTE: mozamis Don't buy his reasoning for thinking me and assemble could be teamed. Not really sure I care if it's me vs shinobi at this point, I'm voting the person I think is most likely scum.

[Kokichi Oma]

Good work team