Open 702: Vanilla Nightless Game Over

[Impede]

It was nicely tailored to the way you've been behaving over the past several posts. If I need to elaborate further, I will.

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: Impede

This or CoA would be a good lynch today.

Why?

Sorry, I know I said I'd wait, but this is nagging.

Lucky never answered your question. Did you expect to get an answer? If you suspect him of being scum, why sheep his vote before he states his rationale? You must have your own rationale, right?

You say I sheeped his vote as if I haven't had my own suspicions of you this game...

[Luca Blight]

Lucky v Impede has the feeling of scum v scum to me.

I'm also fine with a Zaraki lynch today, however.

[Luca Blight]

Semi prod dodge for now, but from the looks of it,

it seems Luca's lynch pool was wrong this time.

I need to see what was the cause of it before making any accusations.

Also classes are over (whoop!) and I found my motivation for this game.

This is an ignorant comment.

Why would LaserGuy being town mean the whole lynch pool was wrong? You're also ignoring the fact that a) LaserGuy was a perfectly legitimate target as he admitted himself, and b) I was townreading Laser by the end of the day and wanted to switch the lynch away from him, which none of the other active posters were interested in doing.

[Zaraki_Jaegerjaquez]

I'm getting really confused about moz. He's flip-flopping on my alignment a lot, and just fencing on a lot of things.

I still scumread.

[CommKnight]

Lucky v Impede has the feeling of scum v scum to me.

I'm also fine with a Zaraki lynch today, however.

So let me get this straight, you feel 2 scum are arguing, but you want to hunt the 4th scum who you would have now a more chance of accidentally hitting town? Why not lynch both scum and THEN hunt the 4th when we only need 2 hard town reads to then win the game.

Also

VOTE: Lucky

I like Impede. He's not really sweating it and seems like he's scum hunting and trying. Plus he's not being overly defensive. We can always come back to him another day, but Lucky is a good lynch and has been since D1.

This game will be much easier once we get down to 1-2 scum because then we just need 3 firm townies to rock it and everyone can be lynched.

[Luca Blight]

I don't know for sure they are scum arguing, it's just a feeling I got.

If it was solely up to me i'd probably be lynching Zaraki today, but I've lost the will to take control of the lynches now.

[Luca Blight]

I'm not convinced on Lucky either way, but I think he's a reasonable lynch option for today.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Lucky

Some input from Athena would be nice.

[CommKnight]

Meanwhile... I'm going to do a fun little game.

CommKnight
ArchwingZulfy
cytheflyguy
Lucky2u
Luca Blight
CultOfAthena
mozamis
Impede
Zaraki_Jaegerjaquez
Sesq

^ Remaining player list, 3 scum alive with the rest being VTs.

CommKnight - Town
ArchwingZulfy
cytheflyguy
Lucky2u
Luca Blight - Town
CultOfAthena
mozamis
Impede
Zaraki_Jaegerjaquez
Sesq

^ So if we can cross Luca and me off as town. (saying IF here). Then we have 2 lock-town. We need at least 2 more townies out of the remaining to basically be able to hard-lynch until we get it right.

If we manage to lynch scum, then we need one more town, if we managed to lynch two, then we just need Luca and myself to be locked in somehow.

Of course I'm saying this from my PoV. Some people might suspect me still. But what I'm pushing at, is we can potentially lock out scum from being able to win if we're able to properly town-hunt and keep scum out of the block completely. We got 3 lynches until we're at LYLO right now, so essentially we need to pick 7 people to keep alive and then it'd be 4 town vs 3 scum if we're wrong about the next 3 lynches. Then it'd be more serious scum-hunting being involved.

But each correct lynch we get buys us an additional mislynch breather room here. So if we were to pick 3 people and decide to lynch them bang, bang, bang. If 1-2 of them are scum, then we just bought ourself 1-2 more additional wiggle room for being wrong.

Anyway, people probably should know this already, but basically what I'm getting at, is we need to pick our TRs to reach the LYLO situations if we're wrong about our SRs. If that makes sense?

[Luca Blight]

If everyone trusts that I am Town then we could just have me pick who we lynch so Mafia can't influence it?

Alternately we could follow LaserGuy's list.

[Zaraki_Jaegerjaquez]

If everyone trusts that I am Town then we could just have me pick who we lynch so Mafia can't influence it?

Alternately we could follow LaserGuy's list.

I trust you are town, but even town is wrong. Besides, yesterday's lynch proves you can be wrong. You were pining and on a crusade towards Laser's lynch. Then, right at the end you jumped off because you realized he was town. But you know why we lynched anyways? Because you riled people up into following

your

lynch. I'm not going to blindly follow one man's lynch list which can be wrong.

[Luca Blight]

I pushed LaserGuy based on the evidence available, and then wanted to keep him alive based on new evidence.

You

are one of the ones who demanded LaserGuy be lynched even after his obvtown post at L-1, therefore his blood is on

your

hands, not mine.

Yes I can be wrong, but I've proven already my judgement is better than most here. Scum still have three members who can easily influence any lynch, therefore it seems to make perfect sense to me to put the lynch in my control.

[MathBlade]

Votecount 3.21

Lucky2u(3)

~ Impede, CommKnight, Luca Blight

Zaraki_Jaegerjaquez(1)

~ mozamis

Impede(1)

~ Lucky2u

CultOfAthena(1)

~ Sesq

Not Voting (4): Zulfy, cytheflyguy, CultOfAthena, Zaraki_Jaegerjaquez

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2017-12-13 22:35:00)

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Fixed Sesq vote

[Zaraki_Jaegerjaquez]

That was an obvtown post? It wasn't necessarily obv town. His blood is on both our hands, mine because I was on the wagon, and you because you incited the wagon.

[Impede]

Who the hell cares? We all voted him. Town MLs. It's a reality of this game. It's a moot point unless you think someone actually demonstrated scum motive to facilitate a ML

[Luca Blight]

That was an obvtown post? It wasn't necessarily obv town. His blood is on both our hands, mine because I was on the wagon, and you because you incited the wagon.

From someone about to be lynched that post was as obvtown as it gets.

Who the hell cares? We all voted him. Town MLs. It's a reality of this game. It's a moot point unless you think someone actually demonstrated scum motive to facilitate a ML

Who is this directed at?

The point is my credibility to decide today's lynch, which you'd know if you bothered to read before posting.

[Impede]

It was more directed at Zaraki, but the argument is basically pointless. You still have credibility, but it isn't a blank check. If you want to retain it, be damn sure we lynch scum today. I feel good about Lucky, but I don't want to be sheeped. Everyone on this wagon better have some damn fine rationale, because if he flips green, we're all going to have some 'splaining to do.

[mozamis]

I'm also fine with a Zaraki lynch today, however.

there is hope!

[mozamis]

I'm getting really confused about moz. He's flip-flopping on my alignment a lot, and just fencing on a lot of things.

I still scumread.

so you are really confused about me but still scum read me?
what the fuck does this even mean?

[mozamis]

If it was solely up to me i'd probably be lynching Zaraki today, but I've lost the will to take control of the lynches now.

dont have to take control, just vote him.

we mustn't lynch impede.
lucky i am not sure about - i kinda liked his responses to me, tbh, they all made sense.
i thought impede vs lucky looked town vs town.

[mozamis]

Votecount 3.21

Lucky2u(3)

~ Impede, CommKnight, Luca Blight

Zaraki_Jaegerjaquez(1)

~ mozamis

Impede(1)

~ Lucky2u


Not Voting (5): Zulfy, cytheflyguy, CultOfAthena, Zaraki_Jaegerjaquez, Sesq

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2017-12-13 22:35:00)

SCUM NOT VOTING?- seems likely, they all need to pounce to get the mislynch? so

3 scum in Zulfy, CY, Cult, Zaraki.

I rule out Sesq, who i thought was voting Cult anyway.

[CultOfAthena]

I'm here now. The laserguy deadline lynch was horrible.

More to follow soon.

[mozamis]

@ MOD - SESQ IS VOTING CULT

[mozamis]

reckon as long as we lynch in Cult, Zaraki, Zulfy or Cyfly we have 75% hitting scum.

[CultOfAthena]

SCUM NOT VOTING?- seems likely, they all need to pounce to get the mislynch? so 3 scum in Zulfy, CY, Cult, Zaraki. I rule out Sesq, who i thought was voting Cult anyway.

I literally have not posted once this day phase. If I had, it would've probably been to park my vote on you again, but I digress. What makes you think scum are more likely not voting than voting?