Mini Normal 1969 - Blessed Mafia (Werewolf Win)

[UnaBombaH]

So, tell me then, do you lynch a claimed Miller D2 too?

Because (just in case someone misses my first)

I hardclaim Miller

[JaydragonKing]

His rolecard did specifically say "someone not aligned with town" and not "a member of the mafia". That still leaves it open ended. I do doubt a second mafia team though.

But, if I may interject this in, if you guys really think it's Tchill, who would be his scum partner?

[Tchill13]

you dont lynch a claimed miller D2 because now we are down 3 townies. Versus when we were down none and could afford that option.

[Tchill13]

preserving the miller for late game situations that benefit scum in the long run is scummier than tunneling the miller day 1.

[Tchill13]

i think SS is scum. I also think the inactives need to get in here and post today.

[UnaBombaH]

I want to hear from Boon, and I don't want to see a quicklynch today.

[Something_Smart]

preserving the miller for late game situations that benefit scum in the long run is scummier than tunneling the miller day 1.

hey GUESS WHAT

WHYMAFIA WAS A WEAK ROLE

IF WE HADN'T LYNCHED ESPEONAGE HE WOULD BE CONFIRMED TOWN RIGHT NOW

[JaydragonKing]

I think I figured something out...

There probably isn't even a Cop because of the Cleric thing, and the Millers weren't there to screw with the results. The Cleric clearly would be able to say they are town.

The Miller functioned only as a named townie, and the Backup Una claims was meant to replace cleric in case they died night one. Clearly, we all fucked that up.

[Something_Smart]

I disagree. I mean there's probably not a full cop, but there very well could be a gated cop (meaning that it can only act on certain nights, or a certain number of times during the game).

Also Una was very likely a Backup Miller, because he claimed to have evidence of the existence of a miller, and because universal backup + miller is quite possibly the dumbest combination of roles you could possibly put in a normal game.

[JaydragonKing]

Just because it's dumb doesn't mean a Mod wouldn't put it in.

[Something_Smart]

I think Assemble's a smart enough mod to not do that.

[Something_Smart]

Man I am really going to put my foot in my mouth postgame if there actually was a universal backup and a miller.

[Tchill13]

preserving the miller for late game situations that benefit scum in the long run is scummier than tunneling the miller day 1.

hey GUESS WHAT

WHYMAFIA WAS A WEAK ROLE

IF WE HADN'T LYNCHED ESPEONAGE HE WOULD BE CONFIRMED TOWN RIGHT NOW

doesnt change anything imo. You lynched the claim miller day 1 always. only thing that could have changed that from my perspective is una claiming backup miller.

[JaydragonKing]

Well Una had to celebrate Finland independence.

You don't get between a man and patriotism.

[Tchill13]

the funny thing is had espe flipped red i wouldn't think SS is scum due to the fact you're not gonna hard defend your scum buddy D1 like that. Now that espe was actually miller makes me think SS wanted to preserve him for long term to create a situation where we had to choose between a scum read and the miller late game. He was so adamant about his defense D1 to get town cred for the flip he knew would happen. I can't wrap my head around a townie fighting so hard against a lynch that just logically made so much sense.

[Something_Smart]

"So much sense"? Your argument was that it was impossible for Espe to become confirmed town. A role has since flipped which would have been able to confirm him as town.

Your argument was based on a PROVEN FALSEHOOD.

Whatever, I don't want to continue this debate after it's no longer relevant. If Tchill is town he almost single-handedly wrecked this game, and WhyMafia's posts imply a guilty on him too. He is the lynch today.

[Flavor Leaf]

Holy shit fuck, Assemble. You are so cool. Oh my god, I’m dying. Assemble best new mod.

[Tchill13]

Single-handedly huh? im sorry im getting in your way by trying to play the game. Be specific when talking about Why's iso. Why does his posts imply that specifically? All i single-handedly did was make the right play. lynching a claimed miller day 1 always makes "so much sense" to me.

[Something_Smart]

The day ended before Why got to crumb his target. Therefore, he wanted to NOT die so he could share his results. This implies he'd want to target someone who he townread. Furthermore, since he would be confirmed town to whoever he targeted, he would probably want to target someone who scumread him. And in the worst case, he'd probably want at least SOME way to trace his action. The last content post in WhyMafia's ISO is this:

I never argue to argue with one person. I argue for others to clearly understand my position on a matter. If we don't Lynch the Miller claim on day 1 we start this game off on the wrong foot. My intention was never to convince those who have already made up there mind. It's to convince those who haven't posted or didn't partake. Whymafia you haven't scum hunted at all. When you point one finger there's four pointing back at you.

Tchill ...
I town read you? Your play compared to Quick has a sharp contrast.

Which hits all three criteria pretty easily. Honestly if WhyMafia died targeting anyone else I'm gonna be annoyed with him.

[Tchill13]

oh... im scum because someone town read me? coming from the guy that refused to lynch the miller to benefit his game long term. this is cute.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also turned miller, by the way. I’ll claim later. (I have an action, though, so I expect scum to kill me off because of that)

Or do I scum? Do I? Am I wifom’ing The fuck out of you scum?

[Flavor Leaf]

My role is actually pretty basic, I’m just being facetious.

[Something_Smart]

What

[Flavor Leaf]

Man, Assemble mixed Loud, Weak, and Loyal in a way all into one Role. Fuck yeah, Assemble.

[JaydragonKing]

I know Weak, but what the hell is Loud and Loyal? What do those even do?