Open 701: Pick Yer Power X/Y Game Over!

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Day 2 Begins:

Vote Count 2.0

CommKnight -
Creature -
northsidegal -
Aster -
texcat -
Viomi -
mutantdevle -
Chip Butty -
Lalendra -
wilky -
CityElectric -
Assemblerotws -

With 12 Alive. Takes 7 To Lynch. 6 To No Lynch.
Deadline Timer (expired on 2017-12-22 07:00:00)

[Creature]

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There are 12 players alive, you didn't take pisskop out of the list.

[Creature]

pisskop flipping town should give more info, hopefully we attack the players that have been coasting a lot (like CityElectric, Lalendra).

[Elmo TeH AzN]

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There are 12 players alive, you didn't take pisskop out of the list.

Fixed But numbers are still the same XD

[mutantdevle]

MisaTange was 6th in the draft list so the odds of her being a PR were somewhat moderate. I wonder why the scum chose to kill so far down the list?

Additionally her death message states she was poisoned. Does that mean anything or is it trivial? My experience of poison is that you poison someone in one night and they die on another; that obviously isn’t the case here. So if anyone knows how poisoning would fit in with the potential roles in this game then I’d appreciate the clarification. For now though, I’m just going to assume that Elmo is just being creative with the death messages.

RIP MisaTange. I will go through your posts tomorrow to see who’d want you dead and carry forth any of your opinions if I feel they are worth mentioning.

[Assemblerotws]

Happy birthday, Creature!
Poisoning appears to be just Elmo being creative.

[Viomi]

Back later to finish Viomi ISO...

sup

[Viomi]

MisaTange was 6th in the draft list so the odds of her being a PR were somewhat moderate. I wonder why the scum chose to kill so far down the list?

Additionally her death message states she was poisoned. Does that mean anything or is it trivial? My experience of poison is that you poison someone in one night and they die on another; that obviously isn’t the case here. So if anyone knows how poisoning would fit in with the potential roles in this game then I’d appreciate the clarification. For now though, I’m just going to assume that Elmo is just being creative with the death messages.

RIP MisaTange. I will go through your posts tomorrow to see who’d want you dead and carry forth any of your opinions if I feel they are worth mentioning.

Poison is just flavor, as you can see from the setup there is no role that poisons.

[Viomi]

MisaTange was 6th in the draft list so the odds of her being a PR were somewhat moderate. I wonder why the scum chose to kill so far down the list?

Additionally her death message states she was poisoned. Does that mean anything or is it trivial? My experience of poison is that you poison someone in one night and they die on another; that obviously isn’t the case here. So if anyone knows how poisoning would fit in with the potential roles in this game then I’d appreciate the clarification. For now though, I’m just going to assume that Elmo is just being creative with the death messages.

RIP MisaTange. I will go through your posts tomorrow to see who’d want you dead and carry forth any of your opinions if I feel they are worth mentioning.

Also, there are several possible reasons why scum would want to choose slightly lower/middle on the list:
1. Whoever gets first pick (Texcat) should not ever choose doctor, as scum will eventually try to make a kill on whoever gets first pick (unless that person is scum). This person will likely be protected by doctor / jailkeeper first night.
2. Speaking of doctor/jailkeeper, usually the middle area is where they would be. You don't want to pick them if you're too high up for the above reason, and you don't want to pick them too far low because chances are you won't get them.
3. First pickers are scum
4. MissTange was onto something
5. Random kill in order to not give town information

I'm partial to the first two reasons, or maybe the fifth.

[CommKnight]

Well shit.

[CommKnight]

Texcat - 2
Northsidegal - 3
Assemblerotws - 4
CommKnight - 6
Mutantdevle - 8

MisaTange - 30 - Town

CityElectric - 5
Chip Butty - 5
Wilky - 7
Creature - 7
Lalendra - 7
Aster - 1

Pisskop - 1 - Town

Viomi - 1

I have an idea of narrowing down scum, but it's completely gut for now and it's something maybe only I would do. But it's interesting scum didn't aim at someone who was higher up on the list for a better chance to kill a PR. My theory? Scum in the top 5 people. They don't want to narrow it down for some reason but still want to kill the mid-tier players to snipe out any PRs that got through.

I'm thinking we look more into Chip and City today. 5 is a sweet spot for scum to pick a number. So my bet? 1 town, 1 scum, right there.

[Creature]

I wonder why the scum chose to kill so far down the list?

Protectives, some of them are higher (pretty sure) and some players are unworth nightkilling.

[Creature]

5 is a sweet spot for scum to pick a number.

Yeah, I've had that feeling one of them had to be scum.

[Creature]

I'm rn at:
1. There's scum on pisskop wagon
2. There's scum above MisaTange's spot
3. There's scum on 5

[mutantdevle]

I agree that the mid draft list kill was probably an attempt to pick off a protective role. @Viomi, is this something that you've seen happen before?

I might look into other PYP games later to see if I can find a pattern with how scum usually kills in regards to the draft list.

Also @Creature, the scum on pisskop's wagon would probably be one (or some) of the players who were willing to flip-flop between my wagon and his.

[Creature]

There were quite a lot of players flipflopping between you and pisskop.

[Viomi]

I agree that the mid draft list kill was probably an attempt to pick off a protective role. @Viomi, is this something that you've seen happen before?

Don't think so, only played one PYP and I don't remember if that happened or not. It just seems the most logical.

[Creature]

We could like focus on getting scum.

There are plenty of never-pressured-this-game players that deserve to be pressured.

[Viomi]

We could like focus on getting scum.

There are plenty of never-pressured-this-game players that deserve to be pressured.

I love how sarcastically you say this as if you're the only one pressuring anyone or trying to get scum, yet I don't see you pressuring anybody at all.

[mutantdevle]

Also I presume he's omgusing chip bc of the same reasons he voted me. Lurker, noinfo, nopr slot.

MisaTange soft claims having no PR here :3


In posts 449,450 and 455 she makes a small case on Aster as well as voting for them. If Aster is scum then perhaps their thinking is since it's so early in the game and MisaTange's case was so small then it would not bring much heat to kill her off so early if she was on the right tracks.

Actually Creature, I'm placing bets on a noob scum-team right now.

Why do you think that?

You never answered this @CommKnight. Any particular reason why? If not, then I'd also like you to answer this.

PK is antitown but not scum.

She correctly identified him as anit-town rather than scum.


That's what I found worth mentioning from MisaTange's ISO. Other than that, her only other real opinion was that she strongly believed that myself and Creature are a scum team.

[mutantdevle]

We could like focus on getting scum.

I was under the impression that basically everything that has been said so far this day was doing exactly that. If we can theorise different reasons why MisaTange specifically was killed then maybe we can figure out who'd have the best motive to want her dead. From there, we can apply pressure to those individuals to see how they respond, even if we don't truly believe in the situations we are accusing them of.

I'm not content with leaving MisaTange's death to simply just "they were trying to pick off a protective role" and moving on. If they were truly killing based on who was in the 'middle' of the draft list, then why did they kill MisaTange in particular over the other players in that middle sort of area?

[Chip Butty]

Reading through...

[Chip Butty]

Back later to finish Viomi ISO...

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Overtaken by events. Might as well start there today. Night kill did seem odd...

[Chip Butty]

Texcat - 2
Northsidegal - 3
Assemblerotws - 4
CommKnight - 6
Mutantdevle - 8

MisaTange - 30 - Town

CityElectric - 5
Chip Butty - 5
Wilky - 7
Creature - 7
Lalendra - 7
Aster - 1

Pisskop - 1 - Town

Viomi - 1

I have an idea of narrowing down scum, but it's completely gut for now and it's something maybe only I would do. But it's interesting scum didn't aim at someone who was higher up on the list for a better chance to kill a PR. My theory? Scum in the top 5 people. They don't want to narrow it down for some reason but still want to kill the mid-tier players to snipe out any PRs that got through.

I'm thinking we look more into Chip and City today. 5 is a sweet spot for scum to pick a number. So my bet? 1 town, 1 scum, right there.

Lol and of course 6 is way different from 5.

[Chip Butty]

5 is a sweet spot for scum to pick a number.

Yeah, I've had that feeling one of them had to be scum.

You get scummer almost with every post.