Mini Normal 1969 - Blessed Mafia (Werewolf Win)

[UC Voyager]

probably a SK!


also consider that there is more than 1 scum, so maybe LUV didn't target the scum that committed the kill!

[Something_Smart]

I think Jay/SS are opposite scum teams.

Explain why because I'm pretty sure that (a) it's singleball and (b) we're both town.

[Aristophanes]

I'm not against off-topic discussions (though I am not an anime person myself), but in this case I'm very interested to hear Ari's thoughts on the game.

Ari, how do you feel about Boon and Elsa?

I mean, Boon being so eager to have me cleared (as seen above) and the triple miller claims(???) is pretty WTF! That gets into setup spec tho and I honestly could believe it out of Assembler. Conflicted mostly because of claim, but his play is towny from my reading thus far.

Jay is a lot of fun but I would have to read more into them to say for sure. They are a townlean off of tone and general direction, I'm trying not to let their fun personality make me townread them though, which is a trap I fall into far too often.

WTF LIKE 6 Ninjae!

[Flavor Leaf]

What does that have to do with anything? LUV was VT, and Why didn’t have to target the person making the kill. Just any scum.

[UC Voyager]

What does that have to do with anything? LUV was VT, and Why didn’t have to target the person making the kill. Just any scum.

i mean, whymafia. or whoever was the cleric

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Jay/SS are opposite scum teams.

Explain why because I'm pretty sure that (a) it's singleball and (b) we're both town.

Why do you say it’s single ball? There was two kills, and Why is confirmed to have hit town.

Yeah, there could be a vig, sure, but I’ve honestly been trying to POE it without outing the vig, and the only person who I feel could be the vig would have shot me, not one of LUV/Why.

[Flavor Leaf]

What does that have to do with anything? LUV was VT, and Why didn’t have to target the person making the kill. Just any scum.

i mean, whymafia. or whoever was the cleric

He didn’t have to target the person making the kill.

[UC Voyager]

Lil Uzi Vert was killed!

Spoiler: He was

a

Vanilla Townie

.

WhyMafia was killed!

Spoiler:

Welcome, WhyMafia, you are a

Town Cleric

.

Abilities:

• During the day, you can vote and talk.
• Each night, you may visit a player and give them a blessing. They will know that you, the Town Cleric, blessed them, and you will know whether or not the blessing succeeded. If you bless someone not aligned with the Town,

that player

will be roleblocked, but you will die.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

this says only the person targeted

[Aristophanes]

What does that have to do with anything? LUV was VT, and Why didn’t have to target the person making the kill. Just any scum.

i mean, whymafia. or whoever was the cleric

??

Also, you should know who the cleric is by now. your "whoever the cleris was" is weird.

[Flavor Leaf]

Jay’s staying neutral, but allowing himself to join onto multiple wagons, and SS, maybe I’m just paranoid, but I see you as scum taking decently strong stances, the Ari push seemed setup from Day 1, and now the single ball talk and the indirectly trying to discredit the Ari Blessed claim.

[Flavor Leaf]

Lil Uzi Vert was killed!

Spoiler: He was

a

Vanilla Townie

.

WhyMafia was killed!

Spoiler:

Welcome, WhyMafia, you are a

Town Cleric

.

Abilities:

• During the day, you can vote and talk.
• Each night, you may visit a player and give them a blessing. They will know that you, the Town Cleric, blessed them, and you will know whether or not the blessing succeeded. If you bless someone not aligned with the Town,

that player

will be roleblocked, but you will die.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

this says only the person targeted

Sure, but it doesn’t say only the person making the kill. It’s who Why targets.

[JaydragonKing]

That was at the beginning of the game when I thought we got atleast a clue of what the set up was. I now know that doesn't happen in Normal Queue games.

But I do also love to theorize, so I'll ramble on about possibilities that entertain me as well. Just a quirk of mine.

[Something_Smart]

Ari, do you think you are conftown?

[Aristophanes]

probably a SK!


also consider that there is more than 1 scum, so maybe LUV didn't target the scum that committed the kill!

Lil Uzi Vert was killed!

Spoiler: He was

a

Vanilla Townie

.

WhyMafia was killed!

Spoiler:

Welcome, WhyMafia, you are a

Town Cleric

.

Abilities:

• During the day, you can vote and talk.
• Each night, you may visit a player and give them a blessing. They will know that you, the Town Cleric, blessed them, and you will know whether or not the blessing succeeded. If you bless someone not aligned with the Town,

that player

will be roleblocked, but you will die.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

this says only the person targeted

To clarify (I think I got this now), you are meaning WhyMafia, not LUV in the first quote here yes? And are now saying Why may have targeted scum that wasn't the designated killer?

But he targeted me, so...
Faulty logic.

Inb4 ninjae.
- only 3!

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s 2-2 or 2-1 most likely.

With all the miller stuff, it could be SK, 2 Mafia with traitor.

[Aristophanes]

Ari, do you think you are conftown?

I know I am conftown!

I also know none of you have any reason to believe it since there is no evidence other than my claim and Why's flip.

So an much as I am conftown, I don't expect to be treated as such.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why do you not expect to be treated as such?

[Flavor Leaf]

Alright, if there’s a vig who got a successful shot last night, claim, and I can game solve this.

[JaydragonKing]

Technically Ari could have been the scum member who got WhyMafia killed but he openly said Blessed so we'll be less suspicious of him.

Just saying it didn't say the Scum wouldn't know they were blessed, just that they'd be roleblocker and the Cleric would die.

[Aristophanes]

Why do you not expect to be treated as such?

Because other than getting a PM confirming I was blessed, there is no evidence that I was. In theory I could have capitalized on the flip knowing nobody can CC me!
I know I didn't, but there's no reason you should believe me.

Alright, if there’s a vig who got a successful shot last night, claim, and I can game solve this.

Yeah, this would be great! The extra kill needs to be claimed.

[Aristophanes]

Technically Ari could have been the scum member who got WhyMafia killed but he openly said Blessed so we'll be less suspicious of him.

Just saying it didn't say the Scum wouldn't know they were blessed, just that they'd be roleblocker and the Cleric would die.

This exactly!

[Something_Smart]

Technically Ari could have been the scum member who got WhyMafia killed but he openly said Blessed so we'll be less suspicious of him.

It's even simpler than this...

Ari didn't read the flips when he claimed it. He didn't know about the whole blessed massclaim or even what the blessing meant.

As Elsa pointed out, nowhere does it say that scum would not know they are blessed. Ari is not conftown (sorry ) and I believe that WhyMafia died by targeting him.

I think it's singleball because I don't think WhyMafia's role fits with multiball at all. There's a fair bit of intuition in that, but one piece of evidence is that him getting a guilty could screw town over. (i.e. mislynch D1, 2 town death + WM, even if they lynch the guilty it can get to 3:2:1)

[JaydragonKing]

It's nearly 1 am for me and I got to confirm a micro that just started before I sleep. Night everyone.

[Aristophanes]

Technically Ari could have been the scum member who got WhyMafia killed but he openly said Blessed so we'll be less suspicious of him.

It's even simpler than this...

Ari didn't read the flips when he claimed it. He didn't know about the whole blessed massclaim or even what the blessing meant.

As Elsa pointed out, nowhere does it say that scum would not know they are blessed. Ari is not conftown (sorry ) and I believe that WhyMafia died by targeting him.

I think it's singleball because I don't think WhyMafia's role fits with multiball at all. There's a fair bit of intuition in that, but one piece of evidence is that him getting a guilty could screw town over. (i.e. mislynch D1, 2 town death + WM, even if they lynch the guilty it can get to 3:2:1)

Smart, you are wrong here! I know I've been busy, but how am I scum??

It's nearly 1 am for me and I got to confirm a micro that just started before I sleep. Night everyone.

Please please please watch ongoing talk!

Please?

[Something_Smart]

Because I don't think it's multiball and I DEFINITELY don't think either of those was a vig.