Open 703: Masons and Mafia Town Win!

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: almost50

I'm ageist.

[TwoInAMillion]

Has anyone played this setup before?

[TwoInAMillion]

If you are mason, don't claim because scum have daykill and if they target a non-mason, they die.

[TwoInAMillion]

That would be a big mafia game. Sounds like fun.

[TwoInAMillion]

Yeah I agree a50 is probably town. Also like rb for townsearching.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Junko Chan

Not sure if he is serious about policy lynching or not.

[TwoInAMillion]

It's neither.

[TwoInAMillion]

Un-cc'd masons can still be scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm confused as to why scum would claim a partner that would be CCd.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't see how this will force scum to do anything. There is a 30% chance of any given player being scum, so if my math is correct a 60% chance of any two players having one scum in it. That means there is a 40% chance of both players being town. There is a chance this could be successful but there is also a chance it might not be. I'd rather have a better than 60% chance of winning.

[TwoInAMillion]

the odds improve as townies are lynched but that's not a winning game plan.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think comm could be scum, but I'm not so sure.

Maybe he honestly thought it was a good idea?

[TwoInAMillion]

Looking at the posting activity and don't like that Comm makes his proposal, only has 2 total posts so far, and has pretty much silent since people point out it isn't good.

VOTE: CommKnight

[TwoInAMillion]

Town
TwoinaMillion
Almost50
havingfitz

Null-Town
jzhenson93
humaneatingmonkey
rb

Null
MawhrinSkel

Null-scum
mozamis
wavemode
Hongzi

Scum
JunkoChan
CommKnight

[TwoInAMillion]

Oops Gamma Emerald would probably be in the Null-Scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

???? ??? ?? ? ?? I think Imma policy lynch just to be safe.

VOTE: Almost50

[TwoInAMillion]

Looking at the posting activity and don't like that Comm makes his proposal, only has 2 total posts so far, and has pretty much silent since people point out it isn't good.

VOTE: CommKnight

what's your updated opinion based on his explanation? (he works, he gap in activity isn't that long afaik)

Could be true, but more than likely he's just being reactive and making an excuse.

[TwoInAMillion]

Null-scum
mozamis
wavemode
Hongzi

What did wavemode do to warrant this? Me I could understand but there's nothing to back this up.

I get suspicious of people who don't post, especially considering I've played with him in other games where he is more active.

[TwoInAMillion]

Null-scum
mozamis
wavemode
Hongzi

What did wavemode do to warrant this? Me I could understand but there's nothing to back this up.

I get suspicious of people who don't post, especially considering I've played with him in other games where he is more active.

Sounds like you are looking for an excuse to lurk to me.
I don't buy that.

VOTE: TwoInAMillion

[TwoInAMillion]

Mozamis looks more town now, i like his logic for the most part.

I think Comm is scummy but I can go with a gamma wagon for now.

VOTE: Gamma

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't think anyone who signs up for a mafia game should want to replace out within the first 10 pages, if at all, so it seems like he was trying to gain attention on purpose to me, which seems anti-town.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think there are better ways to help town than bringing attention to yourself. It just seems that his attention is not on finding scum which is where it should be.

[TwoInAMillion]

In case you hadn't notice, this is early day 1 and reads may not be as strong as they would be, say, later in the game. We have to form our reads based on something.

[TwoInAMillion]

People who criticize my reads for being harsh.

[TwoInAMillion]

I could go with a Junko wagon, but I don't want to wagon hop so I'll wait and see what happens.

[TwoInAMillion]

How am I scum if gamma is town?

[TwoInAMillion]

Gamma or Junko are both solid lynches. I see a lot of town play in general so I think town is in a good place overall.

[TwoInAMillion]

hem is more likely scum for me now, his logic is making no sense.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

[TwoInAMillion]

I think you're wrong

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm pretty sure hem in scum, so that makes it likely that Gamma is town/

[TwoInAMillion]

Thanks for your lovely analysis.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: MawhinSkel

1.) Gamma isn't being lynched today, suck it up.
2.) We already have information without flipping him. Pushing for his flip seems to be you wanting to know if he's VT or Mason.
3.) Skel and Junko are more informational at this point.

How? I haven't posted crap this game?(that is for point 3). Why do you think gama is town? Just cus he was at l-1? please elborate.

my vote was an RVS one not sure how valid of a wagon that really was.

I need more from you too, Godel. Don't be afraid to make mistakes. We all did (and still do). It's how you learn to play, my friend.

I won't just post for the sake of posting, I did it in our last shared game and you know how that turned out.

Because i dont wanna have to try and mentally pronounce that name to myself all game

Blame Godel.
Btw in case Godel didn't make this public before-hand, this is a teaching hydra. I'm here to help Godel, so this is like 95% a Godel-game.

thanks fo rhte info without analysis. My first serious vote:
VOTE: mawhrinskel

Why?

I'll also argue for Gamma again! If he felt he was the day lynch anyway before jz unvoted him, wouldn't he have tried to shoot someone before he went down?? How does it make sense that jz shoots when he only had 3 votes on him and Gamma doesn't when he had 5 (got to 6 even, but only for a few minutes so maybe he wasn't online to see it).

Bad reasoning, would you claim before someone posted intent to hammer you? I don't think scum would shoot someone without an intent to hammer.




I don't see the benefit in speculating on who was targetted, we can't be sure of it so we won't gain a conf town from it, the only thing I see it doing is doing the legwork for the scum since they now have a fair warning before they target players.


Almost50 - actively pushes people, scum hunts, tries to lure out lurkers, to me it seems similar to his playstyle in donner party where he was town.
mozamis - like his line of questioning and I can follow his logic
Hongzi - does scum hunting and follows through, can mainly follow his process
TwoInAMillion - bunch of stupid strategy discussion, comments on happenings but doesn't ask a lot of questions, getting a small town vibe though
humaneatingmonkey - mixed feelings I like a lot of his posts, but then every now and again he says something the just seems so off. like 348
wavemode - posted odd read list with stupid reasoning made some posts i like, dislike his last post
CommKnight - don't like the strategy, don't like some his posts, there is some scum hunting though to counter act that.
havingfitz - hasn't posted a lot, little scum hunting some posts rub me the wrong way.
rb - slight scum lean, like some posts dislike others.
JunkoChan - 19 sucks, bad strategy, 294 hops on the wagon with weak reasoning, lost os spammy useless posts, posts votecount and tries to look useful
Gamma Emerald - 21 sucks, bad strategy. Seems like very little scum hunting, defense was odd.

and with that I am off to bed.

You are commending the high activity players and condemning the low activity players yet you are the lowest activity player in the game according to the post activity chart.

[TwoInAMillion]

Sure.

VOTE: Wavemode

[TwoInAMillion]

Sure.

VOTE: Wavemode

How does this get zero scrutiny

I trust in A50.

[TwoInAMillion]

Appeal to experience much? It doesn't make you any less scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

It's on a need to know basis.

[TwoInAMillion]

Sorry guys. My first open game. I'll do better next time.