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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:21 pm

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Creature's posts were good, so ya
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:23 pm

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omfg

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY WERE GOOD?!?!

are ppl not joining noob games to learn how to play?
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:24 pm

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In post 39, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:are you saying you don't believe he would post that way as scum
this 1.
and that the content in those posts gave me gutfeels that hes trying to do something in a way that i dont think i would get from his scumgame.
examples:
scums - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=73434
towns - viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70415

moral of the story is that creature will have a lot to live up to as scum here and im pretty comfortable saying "nah dont fuck with this shit" right now.

wheme's also townish atm.
fenn is my lamest townlean.
i feel weird about drealm, but i remember feeling weird about him earlygame during his last towngame so.
mcmemeo wrote:you heard it here first folks never lynch creature ever again
harharhar.
etl wrote:So.... my question to you would be, why did you feel the need to answer for Gork?
cause im just that cool
people want to help me out.
(:

im still waiting to find out what to do with my #8 tbh.

p-edit: because its probably townCreature???
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:24 pm

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gork, can you make any opinion that isn't previous experience based?
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:26 pm

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In post 27, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 21, Fenraiser wrote:Random number generator. Creature miller claim does look nice tbh.
what, why?

no it doesn't especially after asked for flavor and he didn't

fuck that shit it's scummy as fuck especially from creature VOTE: creature
This implies you know creature's meta. Please explain more of why it's scummy from creature. It would strengthen your argument and help us understand where you're coming from.
drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 45, Fenraiser wrote:
In post 35, drealmerz7 wrote:it looks nice?!?!? what does that even mean? you're just making a general statement that has no application to this game
I'm saying that creature is probably town because of the claim. That is why it's nice.
this is terrible

have you ever played mafia before?
Don't straw man argument me. Explain more on creature!scum since you seem to know their meta.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:26 pm

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nah.
experience means context.
its the main reason im not confident youre scum for your opening.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:28 pm

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experience does not mean context wtf???

try to generate reads from within the game
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:29 pm

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understanding why someone has done things in the past gives you context for why they do things in the present.
i used experience to guide my read on xiao in protomen.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:30 pm

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not at all true though
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:30 pm

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to make that assumption is terrible play
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:31 pm

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lol.
you seriously want to go a combative route right now?
like, why?
why are you doing this if you want to have an actually fun game?
stop?
please?
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:32 pm

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In post 51, drealmerz7 wrote:omfg

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY WERE GOOD?!?!

are ppl not joining noob games to learn how to play?
Please, I'll run yin yang circles around you kid.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:33 pm

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In post 27, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 21, Fenraiser wrote:Random number generator. Creature miller claim does look nice tbh.
what, why?

no it doesn't especially after asked for flavor and he didn't

fuck that shit it's scummy as fuck especially from creature VOTE: creature
Is it the miller claim that's scummy, or is it that creature didn't say their flavor that is scummy?
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:36 pm

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I feel like this "experience vs 'generating reads in this game'" is a matter of playstyle and NAI, especially this early in the game.
"Tell me what you see, tell me. Is it scary? I hope it is, in fact, I hope it scares you to pieces."
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:57 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 40, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 38, MisaTange wrote:
In post 26, MisaTange wrote:
In post 21, Fenraiser wrote:Random number generator. Creature miller claim does look nice tbh.
nice as in lynchy nice
?
I also just realized this statement is weird without a question mark -- I was asking for clarification, not agreement.

(As an aside, GL on your last final, skitter!)
I don't think anyone even asked about this post from you, Misa. Comes off defensive and paranoid about how you are being read.

VOTE: misatange

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I do not see your logical progression.

How does that question in post 26 and comment in post 38 make Misa come off as defensive and paranoid about being read if she wasn't addressing herself but actually creature?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:57 pm

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In post 63, MisaTange wrote:I feel like this "experience vs 'generating reads in this game'" is a matter of playstyle and NAI, especially this early in the game.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:07 pm

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McMenno have you played with creature before? If you have, what are your thoughts on him rn?
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:47 pm

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I have played with him plenty of times. he can be town for now. why?
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:56 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 32, McMenno wrote:
In post 28, Gorkington wrote:i can pretty much promise you with some degree of certainty that with the two posts creature has already made in this game, hes probably never flipping scum.
you heard it here first folks never lynch creature ever again

I was just wondering.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:14 pm

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Hopefully real isn't saying I never claim miller.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:40 pm

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(I tend to wall, apologies in advance)
In post 8, Fenraiser wrote:VOTE: gorkington
Use RNG.
Was this a serious vote? Have you played offsite?
In post 31, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Dreal

Serious vote this is scum
Why?
In post 45, Fenraiser wrote:I'm saying that creature is probably town because of the claim. That is why it's nice.
OK, and what about the claim makes him town? And why did you vote Dreal right after this post?

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I feel like both sides of this Creature thing (Gork pushing town!Creature and Dreal pushing scum!creature) appear to, in some way, be influenced by meta. I don't have any meta on Creature, and right now his posting in this game has been kinda NAI for me; he's hard null right now.

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@ETL: Hi!!!! Nice to play with you again :)

@Misa: Thanks! I think it went well, and now I'm on break for like three weeks!

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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:59 pm

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@Worm

RvS to answer your question.

I feel like I already explained myself with creature, so I'll clarify. Miller claims are either lynched early on or widely townread (depending on set-up in addition). It's a ballsy move that I don't see much scum doing D1, although I'm not ruling out the possibility. Yes, creature's posting itself is null, but for now, creature is a slight townread due tp the claim and what I jist said.

I don't exactly see how playing off-site would help, but yes, I have played off-site more than on MS.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:43 pm

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In post 71, Fenraiser wrote:It's a ballsy move that I don't see much scum doing D1, although I'm not ruling out the possibility. Yes, creature's posting itself is null, but for now, creature is a slight townread due tp the claim and what I jist said.
I mean, scum fake claiming miller is a thing that happens day 1. He never got lynched.

And here's another day1 scum!miller claim that didn't get lynched for several days

I could prob rustle up some more examples, but those are the two instances I knew about off the top of my head.

So scum fake-claiming miller day 1 is def a thing that happens.

I do believe that it's town-motivated to claim miller early, as miller claims on later days are kinda dangerous, but I wouldn't give someone a townlean solely because of a miller claim on page 1.
In post 33, Fenraiser wrote:It looks nice, and while both scum and town can miller claim, I'm more inclined for the claim to come from town more than scum imo.
And since we agree that both scum and town can claim miller, I'm not really seeing why you think Creature's claim here is more likely to come from town.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:45 pm

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@Fenraiser, why did you vote Drealmerz?

@Gorkington, I played with Creature about four times now. We were both town all four times and each time, it was increasingly easy to solidly read him as town. I haven't seen anything yet that makes him scream town. I've never seen him as scum though. The two wallposts Creature made so far seemed very unlike his normal posting and I also didn't have the same reactions to the posts he quoted. The miller claim is null to me as it's easily something I can see being planned in the mafia thread. Can you say more on why you are townreading him?

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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:49 pm

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