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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:21 am

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Hey I'm there and I'm thinking Viomi is a mislynch. I've sort of struggled to have a decent townread on her, but like I think I should avoid another mislynch like this.
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:21 am

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I was like pegging CommKnight and CityElectric as both scum.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:22 am

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If you want reasons:
CommKnight because he still seems different from how I picture him as town;
CityElectric because he has been generic and seems the most coasty.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:23 am

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(CityElectric's actually V/LA, but I still think that whenever he posted he didn't want any attention)
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:24 am

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Btw, Viomi, the player you're wagoning is known for lurking (as any alignment) and I expect him to be a potential mislynch, are you sure there?
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:25 am

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Out of the five above:
Texcat - 2: I townread
Northsidegal - 3: I townread
Assemblerotws - 4: Is a potential mislynch bait
CommKnight - 6: I scumread
Mutantdevle - 8: I townread
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:34 am

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In post 748, Chip Butty wrote:Actually, speaking of Assembler, texcat still hasn't explained why she coloured him green...

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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:40 am

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A yes or no question:
Is the meta just related to his activity?
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:08 am

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If you mean solely related to his activity, then no.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:16 am

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Fair then.

You still think Viomi is the best way to go?
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:21 am

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Yes. Although I am a little concerned that scum haven't tried to build a counterwagon.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:38 am

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Yeah, the lack of counterwagons is worrying me.

I'm also worried about the number of players not voting.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:11 am

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The lack of counter wagon is the only concerning thing to me. Viomi has been scummy and scum might be afraid of being called out if Viomi flips red.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:12 am

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In post 761, Creature wrote:Yeah, the lack of counterwagons is worrying me.

I'm also worried about the number of players not voting.
I wonder how many of them are looking for excuses to vote someone other than Viomi.
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:13 am

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The only other viable option I see today is lynching Chip.
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:49 am

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In post 754, Creature wrote:Btw, Viomi, the player you're wagoning is known for lurking (as any alignment) and I expect him to be a potential mislynch, are you sure there?
He's confirmed to be anti-town, so..
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:51 am

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In post 763, Assemblerotws wrote:
In post 761, Creature wrote:Yeah, the lack of counterwagons is worrying me.

I'm also worried about the number of players not voting.
I wonder how many of them are looking for excuses to vote someone other than Viomi.
Mm, love how you didn't read any of my posts. Or the thread. Hi, welcome back to the game. Are you here to play yet or are you just going to keep lurking us out, scumfuck?
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:51 am

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In post 729, wilky wrote:its furthered my suspicions that my other scum read has jumped straight in to defend him aswell.
Just to clarify, who is your 'other scum read' and who is 'him'?
In post 733, wilky wrote:@Mutant why the sudden change of heart on Viomi??
There's been no change of heart; I still think Viomi is scummy. It's just I'm not so sure she is scum. The speed at which this wagon came together worries me the most and there is no way that scum are not on it. Most people that have voted for Viomi have simply given their own reasons in a mostly sheep-like way without justifying said reasons. Best case scenario is that the scum on the wagon are bussing a soon to be dead teammate but I am not comfortable with lynching Viomi whilst the shitty reasons people are voting are unexplored. Once I am satisfied that all votes on Viomi are genuine, I will be prepared to lynch a player I view as scummy. Another thing that is holding me back from hammering is that I am further analysing past games to include the ones I missed and add them to a spreadsheet instead of simply typed out in a word document so that I can read my information easier.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:55 am

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In post 724, Viomi wrote:Like, seriously. If you're so intent on me being scum, make a fucking case! Give reasons for me to reply to, so we can generate information and see relationships between players so town can analyze them in the future. Stop this anti-town caseless wagoning and stop playing into scum's hands.
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In post 734, Lalendra wrote:@Mutant - These posts are the ones I disliked.

- Moving vote from Mutant to PK while still saying Mutant was her top SR.
- Naked votes Aster, after Aster unvoted PK and voted Mutant - who was still Viomi's top SR.
- Says that Mutant's lynch would give us the most info and she's "pretty sure" he's scum - while voting Aster.
- 120ish posts later, "Aster is town", votes PK again. Doesn't explain why attitude on Aster shifted.
- Says Chip Butty is "definitely town", but doesn't say why.
- Naked votes Northside, quoting a post from Aster which says that both Northside and Comm are suspicious. Doesn't explain why she chose North over Comm, or why she is suddenly listening to the reasoning of someone she was previously voting for.

There's a lot of jumping around, very little explanation or clarity, and direct conflict between posts (and sometimes within the same post). I stopped reading the ISO after 590 because frankly I don't feel like dealing with the toxicity.
If you don't want to read a player's posts but want to continue voting them, please do me a favor:
Go tell the list mods you are not playing to win and are therefore screwing over the rest of us. Enjoy your ban and go play something else.

Unless you're scum, that is. In which case, good job.
Erm... Viomi... is this not what you wanted? Lalendra outlines several points as to why you are scummy here. You wanted something to reply to, well reply to these points. Personally, agree that these do look scummy. So you would do well to respond to each point. And don't give the "you're not reading my posts" bs; if you think you have already refuted a point, then quote/link the post where you do so.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:57 am

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In post 732, mutantdevle wrote:@Chip Butty
In post 633, Chip Butty wrote:Oh, the old "It was just a reaction test". How fresh and original.

VOTE: Viomi

L-2, I believe...
So... what are your reasons for voting Viomi? Becuase even in your other posts you have yet to explain why you are voting Viomi. She has asked you to explain your vote several times but you have always responded with one of 2 excuses that either Viomi hasn't explained her vote on you and that you don't need to do the talking because you are not on L-1. You are going out of your way to avoid giving a reason as to why you are voting Viomi and it's the scummiest shit I have seen on this site so far.

So you have 3 options Chip:
1: Explain why you are voting Viomi.
2: Accept that your vote on Viomi is nothing but OMGUS and hence unvote.
3: Admit you are scum.

Oh but wait, you're not at L-1! Surely that means you don't have to explain any of your actions right? Well, let's see what we can do about that...

VOTE: Chip Butty
You have made 5 posts since I wrote this Chip. Why are you avoiding answering me?
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:57 am

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It's more that no one's getting towncred if Viomi flips scum lol
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:01 am

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In post 763, Assemblerotws wrote:
In post 761, Creature wrote:Yeah, the lack of counterwagons is worrying me.

I'm also worried about the number of players not voting.
I wonder how many of them are looking for excuses to vote someone other than Viomi.
Your lack of posting is NAI, I get that and it's not something I would lynch you for. But if you are going to insist on playing a game like this without posting much, then can you at least make the few posts you do have count towards something and actually be helpful? Because currently, you are basically saying fuck all.
In post 731, mutantdevle wrote:@Assemblerotws
In post 625, Assemblerotws wrote:VOTE: Viomi
Despite their claims, they're actually looking less knowledgeable about Pick Your Power vs. Pick Your Poison than they did at the start.
So you're voting for them because they either don't know the difference between 2 different setups and because they are not a pro at the setup after playing it once before? Basically, you're voting for her because she has the same knowledge of this setup going into it as any one of us playing for the first time. Get. The fuck. Out.

You have no reason to vote for Viomi at all. What the hell are you doing with your
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:01 am

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Vote Count 1.Final

CommKnigt (1) - Creature
Creature - (1) Texcat
northsidegal -
Aster - (3) Pisskop, MisaTange
texcat -
Viomi - (2) Aster
mutantdevle - (1) northsidegal,
pisskop - (8) CityElectric, Commknight, wilky, Chip Butty, Lalendra, Viomi, Assemblerotws, mutantdevle

Chip Butty -
Lalendra -
wilky -
CityElectric -
MisaTange -
Assemblerotws -

No Lynch -

Not Voting:

With 14 Alive. Takes 8 To Lynch. 7 To No Lynch.

Vote Count 2.3
CommKnight -
Creature -
northsidegal -
Aster -
texcat -
Viomi (6) - Lalendra, texcat, wilky, Commknight, Assemblerotws, Chip Butty
mutantdevle -
Chip Butty -
Lalendra -
wilky -
CityElectric -
Assemblerotws (1) - Viomi

Not Voting: Creature, northsidegal, Aster, mutantdevle, City Electric

With 12 Alive. Takes 7 To Lynch. 6 To No Lynch.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:02 am

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Fun fact: There are five players part of pisskop mislynch wagon on Viomi rn.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:06 am

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In post 760, texcat wrote:Yes. Although I am a little concerned that scum haven't tried to build a counterwagon.
In post 761, Creature wrote:Yeah, the lack of counterwagons is worrying me.
In post 762, CommKnight wrote:The lack of counter wagon is the only concerning thing to me. Viomi has been scummy and scum might be afraid of being called out if Viomi flips red.
Since when was there an echo around here? This town is so sheepy...

Perhaps this is me being used to a different site meta but I don't really see what's so concerning about a lack of a counter wagon. Is there usually always supposed to be one round these parts? Additionally, perhaps a lack of counter wagon could suggest that the scum are on Viomi's wagon? Other than that I'd give the explanation that most people here do actually think Viomi is scummy but are just unprepared to lynch.
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