Normal 1973 - The Fall of House Viliyr - game over

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: NSG

Bah humbug.

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: Transcend

[Luca Blight]

The NSG/Una interaction really killed the momentum in this game.

[Luca Blight]

Damn, my plan to blend-in has been foiled.

[Luca Blight]

Your of Royal Blood, Luca. You must stand out, not blend in!

And be subjected to Henson's merciless scrutiny?

I tremble at the thought.

[Luca Blight]

Sounds good to me.

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

[Luca Blight]

This seems like an attempt to cover up a scum slip ^ (knowing Mulch's alignment).

[Luca Blight]

'Hopefully Mulch figures out I'm Town'

'Mulch might also be scum tbh'

[Luca Blight]

This seems like an attempt to cover up a scum slip ^ (knowing Mulch's alignment).

[Luca Blight]

Anyone feel like explaining their scumread on me?

[Luca Blight]

Note how Transcend has deflected the attention away from Dunkerdoodles even though he wasn't even on Transcend's town list.

[Luca Blight]

If I recall correctly, the mod reveals the flip and then the day continues but the vote count is reset.

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: Luca Blight

This is a sneaky looking vote.

[Luca Blight]

Dunker wasn't shot by any dayvig, real or fake.

Henson, why are you still scumreading me?

[Luca Blight]

Because i sr luca more than dunker

Based on what? In 121 you merely said '

rest scummy'

which implies no particular ordering.

His posts have no merit they're all reaches

And what merit do your posts have, exactly? Your points are non-existent.

[Luca Blight]

luca i think you're confbiasing me
i think ur town tho

Why are you voting someone you think is Town?

[Luca Blight]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Transcend

I'm reading both him and Dunker as scum.

[Luca Blight]

The fact Mulch has voted since his Dayvig thing confirms it was fake.

[Luca Blight]

Starting to think Jay might be scum actually, possibly with Transcend.

[Luca Blight]

You're reminding me of the last game we were in.

[Luca Blight]

luca you're also doing a lot of pre-flip associations which isn't good imo

It's not bad either. It's for my personal reference, and I can either choose to share my thoughts in thread or keep them to myself, and sometimes I like to do the former.

What are your reads?

[Luca Blight]

You got to be very careful what you say about ongoing games. Generally the only thing you're allowed to say is regarding activity levels i.e.

'this players is active in other games but not in this one'.

Or

'I'm playing in a lot of games at the moment which is why I haven't been posting much'

.

[Luca Blight]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Dunker

[Luca Blight]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: NSG

[Luca Blight]

um what?

[Luca Blight]

You just claimed a pr...

And why would my read on you affect my read on NSG?

[Luca Blight]

how does me claiming pr affect your read?

Is this a real question?

You just claimed a pr...

And why would my read on you affect my read on NSG?

and you just take it that his claim is true?

presumably if you believed that dunk is scum and also that i'm scum, his vote on me would be a bus. if his vote doesn't seem like bussing then that should give you pause as to one of your reads. like, did you just suddenly start taking it that dunk is town because of his claim? if so, why?

There is no reason not to disbelieve such an early D1 claim, and there is certainly no point lynching someone in that situation.

I never said I believed you were scum together - I believed him and Transcend were scum originally. POE means you become a clearer scumread to me.

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I didn't like how NSG pointed that out - it gives scum more wifom power for their NK.

Dunker's early claim was ridiculous as well, but means he's prob town.

[Luca Blight]

That's reassuring for me.

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I'm not assuming Transcend's Town. That's the point.

[Luca Blight]

@Uzi

- are you still happy with where your vote is?

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You sheeped Transcend on voting me when you preferred a Mulch lynch, so I'm just wondering what's stopping you from voting Mulch given Transcend's now on his wagon.

[Luca Blight]

Don’t like 230 and there’s no need for me to move it with 6 days left on the deadline.

What's wrong with 230?

Please don’t annoy me with questioning or commenting on things that have no clear motivation.

Eh? The questioning is to ascertain the motivation. If that annoys you then you're probably playing the wrong game.

[Luca Blight]

Dunk being a PR should have no affect on your read or deter you from pushing on him unless he claims innocent child.

Not with inquires like that. There’s no scum motivation for parking on a wagon after saying I preferred another player over you.

1) If someone claims a pr so early like that on D1, they are best left until a later day. I don't think I need to explain why this is.

2) His claim matched up with his desperation to be lynched. I was almost townreading his 'I don't want to be lynched' post because that thought crossed my mind, but I wanted to probe a bit further.

3) You didn't give any reason for parking your vote on me, which implies it was merely down to sheeping Trancend, so I think it was perfectly valid to question why you remained on my wagon instead of switching to your preferred wagon when Transcend did. Obviously by this logic you could never be questioned about anything, as you've produced very little in the way of AI information this game.

It doesn’t help me achieve my win-con and it only draws attention to myself when you couple it with my activity.

This is just meaningless. Your vote on me doesn't help me achieve my win-con and only draws attention to me. Doesn't mean I'm going to get annoyed over it as I accept others players in the game have to sort me as I have to sort them.

[Luca Blight]

True enough, but what's just how I interpreted it. I could see his 209 and 223 coming from a newbie pr more than I could see it coming from scum.

And as I said, there is no benefit to pushing him today regardless.

[Luca Blight]

Although just realised he's not as much as a newbie as I thought, but my point still stands.

[Luca Blight]

This game really is weird if I'm being suspected for not voting a pr claim on D1.

[Luca Blight]

Your reasoning was just as bad.

[Luca Blight]

Also Dunker, others have also voted who their scumread is voting for (namely Mulch just now) and yet you're not suspecting them for doing so.

[Luca Blight]

Why are you still voting me?

[Luca Blight]

Compelling stuff.

[Luca Blight]

Compelling stuff.

[Luca Blight]

That's a nice way to put me on L-1.

I claim Villager.

Last reads:

Wavemode - Leaning scum based on the above
Jay - leaning town
Mulch - leaning scum (his read progression has been non-existent)
Transcend - Null (batshit)
NSG - Null
Una - Leaning scum (laying low)
LUV - Leaning scum (no scumhunting, his stance on me is weird)
Henson - probtown
Dunker - probtown based on his early claim

[Luca Blight]

I don't tend to spill all my thoughts as soon as they come to me.

[Luca Blight]

When I'm hammered you'll see they're not bullshit, so whatever.

[Luca Blight]

NSG has been really cautious this game actually. Move her to leaning scum and Una to null-scum.

[Luca Blight]

Mafia have daychat so Dunker is possibly being guided by someone like Transcend or Mulch. His play is terrible so I hope for his sake he's scum, but that should become clear later on.

[Luca Blight]

Wavemode's catch-up and L-1 vote is one of the worst I've seen. Don't let him get away with that.

[Luca Blight]

No-one has actually given a valid reason to lynch me.

[Luca Blight]

UNVOTE:

If we're looking at Transcend v Mulch then it has to be:

VOTE: Mulch


Other than the obvious reasons, 323 and 324 seem Town to me.

[Luca Blight]

And yet you ask the JK to target you?

That doesn't add up.

p;edit: beaten to it.

[Luca Blight]

He's L-1 I believe.

Feel free to hammer.

[Luca Blight]

oh, i thought it was 5 to lynch – it's probably 6.

lynches being 50% instead of 50% plus one won me a game, once.

It should always be a majority lynch. The mod made a mistake in that particular game but kept it at 50% throughout to be consistent, which in reality just made it more mafia-sided.