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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:39 pm

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In post 98, Fenraiser wrote:I never said the bolded. Your parner (s) seemed to misread my earlier words regarding creature and the miller claim.
(There's two of us btw. Me and BV).

Fair enough. I read that as you saying that you thought miller claims were null, so I didn't get how you went from 'early miller claims are null' to 'creature claimed miller early, so he is a townlean'.
In post 98, Fenraiser wrote:Regarding Dreal, it's not that I don't realize he can have a different opinion, it's that I want to understand his opinion about Creature better, and that is why I've been asking him questions about Creature to clarify things. Initially, I thought he jumped the gun on Creature, but I looked back at his posts and saw that he voted Creature after Creature didn't say flavor after the claim and he implied that Creature strayed from their town meta. So, I kind of see the progression and I unvoted, although I wanted to see more elaboration on the Creature meta.
I guess I can kinda follow this, but not really? The context of your unvote is kinda bothering me, given that you make a post reaffirming your reason for voting Dreal (), and make it seem there like you want more info about Creature's meta before you can determine if Dreal's suspicion is warranted, and then unvote before you hear from Dreal. The unvote really stood out as being really out of place given the context, especially since you didn't yet get that elaboration of Creature's meta and Dreal didn't post in that time.
In post 98, Fenraiser wrote:It does not ring well. I can understand if Creature was straight up scumread by Wormhole, but I don't think a null read can give this type of response because it betrays too much concern of how people sees himself/herself, albeit very slight. There seems to be a bit of self-preservation thrown in there as well in the bolded lines.
I don't get this. I don't think it betrays too much concern of how people see him, so much as showing that he's very self-aware of how he'd react as scum in that situation and why he wouldn't do that as scum. I don't really see self-preservation or worry about he's being perceived. This seems kinda reachy to me.

And you went from voting Dreal for having a scumread on Creature you didn't understand, to unvoting Dreal before you heard from him, to voting Creature with Dreal.

I dunno. The progression is weird and doesn't make much sense to me.

VOTE: Fenraiser
In post 102, MisaTange wrote:the problem is

I was voting Wormhole, not dreal.

I ain't voting anyone that I don't think we'll get information out of.
What does the bolded mean?
In post 124, Creature wrote:Where was I scumread by Wormhole btw?
You weren't. I'm nulltown on you. BV's concerned that you don't match the towngames he'd seen with you, but he's tending to thinking that you're town here. Neither of were scumreading you at any point.
In post 132, Smocaine wrote:VOTE: especiallythelies. This dude has 3 posts and voted someone for adding a question mark to their post. I think that's scummy as hell.
I think she's v/la on weekends. Although the question mark post was a tad odd, I agree.

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In post 136, Fenraiser wrote:
In post 131, Creature wrote:
In post 128, Fenraiser wrote:What would you call it from your POV?
Probably a reminder.

It can't be self-preservation because there was no threat of me being lynched.
Alright. You do make a fair point in terms of self-preservation.
Fykus wrote:Prodge
I'm down to PLing this one if this behavior continues.

VOTE: ETL


It was never self-preservation in the first place, so I don't really get why you framed that post that way. Still hate your Creature vote; like I said above, I think that post is really reachy. And you ceding that point here is kinda weird after you made a big thing about voting Creature here for it.

Unfortunately Fykus prodges a lot and isn't super-high content. It also isn't AI for him.

I don't especially like how fast this ETL wagon built tbh.

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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:42 pm

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The best wagons are fast.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:14 pm

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Don't want ETL lynched today
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:20 am

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Anyone's gonna use finals as an excuse someday.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:05 am

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My vote was shitty bc of finals (/sarcasm)
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:47 am

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In post 150, Wormhole wrote:
In post 102, MisaTange wrote:the problem is

I was voting Wormhole, not dreal.

I ain't voting anyone that I don't think we'll get information out of.
What does the bolded mean?
Also I think we can give ETL a couple of days (irl days, not gamedays) for finals.

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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:29 am

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didnt see that, sorry

what I meant was... exactly what I said on the tin. By the time of the unvote, aside from activity-related posts, you've only made "scum can also claim miller" not-really-AI posts, something that you can't really analyze using what you flip.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:42 am

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In post 153, Creature wrote:Anyone's gonna use finals as an excuse someday.
Finals are real. I mostly want explanation for that ETL post on Misa.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:54 am

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I know. Still, it's losing an entire mafia day, so why join?
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:02 am

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Mafiascum days are longer than other sites.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:33 am

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In post 155, Wormhole wrote:
In post 150, Wormhole wrote:
In post 102, MisaTange wrote:the problem is

I was voting Wormhole, not dreal.

I ain't voting anyone that I don't think we'll get information out of.
What does the bolded mean?
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In post 156, MisaTange wrote:didnt see that, sorry

what I meant was... exactly what I said on the tin. By the time of the unvote, aside from activity-related posts, you've only made "scum can also claim miller" not-really-AI posts, something that you can't really analyze using what you flip.
I feel like it's a bit of a misrepresentation to characterize us as someone you 'don't think [you'll] get information out of'. Your unvote came not even two days into the game, and I said I'd be v/la for finals until just about when you unvoted. Like, if you're worried about getting content from us . . . why didn't you try to talk to us about like anything, instead of two IRL days into the game brushing us off as a slot unlikely to be providing content?

Also our posts weren't really focusing on the 'scum can also claim miller' thing, so much as trying to understand Fen and Creature's approaches to the miller thing.

And you were the only vote on us thus far, so it's not like we were close to getting lynched, so I'm not sure why you unvoted us because you felt we'd be a bad info-lynch given that we weren't about to be lynched anyways.

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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:33 am

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Let us lynch ETL, so his mind can be 110% focused on his finals.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:36 am

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ETL is bad lynch today
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:00 am

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Well, we got time to pressure someone else.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:00 am

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Inb4 everybody but my townreads have finals.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:30 pm

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In post 164, Creature wrote:Inb4 everybody but my townreads have finals.
I have 2 tomorrow
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:03 pm

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no finals for me
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:52 pm

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Firaja has failed to pick up their prod and is being replaced. Searching for replacement now.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:15 pm

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Firebringer replaces Firaja!
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:16 pm

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lol.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:16 pm

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In post 168, jjh927 wrote:
Firebringer replaces Firaja!
I might replace out too
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:18 pm

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VOTE: Mcmenno
For getting me into Alisae game
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:19 pm

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I am unfortunately Town this game so my troll to try ratio is going to have to be better.

8:1
Instead of
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:05 pm

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totally down for a mcmenno lynch he seems scum
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:06 pm

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so does smocaine though
balance among all things
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