Open 703: Masons and Mafia Town Win!

[rb]

VOTE: JunkoChan

[Hongzi]

I'd only remotely consider Gamma if Maw flipped town

And that's only because the game is starting to PoE down

This seems legit to me

VOTE: MawhrinSkel

[havingfitz]

I was surprised last night to see TIAM 1) was scum and 2) had taken a shot. Both he and jz weren't at the brink of being lynched so it wasn't for those reasons.

Mawrinskel is L-2

...before I consider putting him at L-1 (or hammering) what's the case on him? From the one game I have with Goedel iirc he's pretty lynchbaity. We have several mislynches to spare though so if we get it wrong on him it's no big deal.

My top two town reads are still mozamis and Hongzi. A50 probably right behind them.

I think rb is town.

I think CommKnight is probably town.

wavemode could still be scum. Getting to L-2 only to have scum take a shot at a prospective mason (and clear the votecounts either way) does not eliminate anyone on the wavemode wagon (or Gamma's from pre-jz suicide).

I think the final two scum are in wavemode, Junko, Gamma, HEM and Skel.

I'm good voting Skel once I see if his case has legs to it (later this morning/today if I'm not beat to it).

[wavemode]

I'm town because the wagon on me was utter ass. Anyone competent could see that even before the TIAM flip

[wavemode]

Maw doesn't have a lot of content but pretty much all of his pushes this game have been on people I'm now relatively certain are town

[humaneatingmonkey]

Hi. I'm nursing a hangover.

wavemode is town. Stop talking about wavemode like he isn't town.
Gamma is town, too. So I should stop talking about Gamma like he isn't town. Sorry Gamma.
Even if masons claim now, we still win based on PoE. But masons shouldn't claim.

I can do this VOTE: JunkoChan or Skel whatever.

[humaneatingmonkey]

If scum isn't in the lynchbaity players like JunkoChan or Skel, it's probably rb and havingfitz.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Let's massclaim after a mason dies and only 1 scum remains btw.

[wavemode]

Are you forgetting this is nightless? After a massclaim all the masons just instantly die. What's the advantage?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm now seeing jzhenson's wagon hop as not wanting to be in the same wagon as TIAM when the lynch was about to push through.

I could still be wrong and Gamma could still be scum but I don't think so.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Are you forgetting this is nightless? After a massclaim all the masons just instantly die. What's the advantage?

PoE. I trust whoever will be left to sort it out.

[humaneatingmonkey]

It would be 4 - 1 and associative reads would be clearer. Not even LYLO. I might not be thinking correctly but I think it's a game-winning move anyway.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Actually probably not some of the people that I think are VT are still lynchbaity so let's not.

[humaneatingmonkey]

wavemode, I don't understand. You're town but your reads are bad. Why?

[humaneatingmonkey]

TIAM is a hard one to read, I will admit

One one hand I disagree with or don't understand a lot of the conclusions he draws with little evidence, like in his 39

On the other hand, I feel like I get that impression in every game I play with TIAM. Sometimes he flips town, sometimes scum

I do consider him a lategame liability in general, so I'm perhaps biased in that regard

Either way, this is the lynch I support atm

This is how wavemode had a wagon.

[wavemode]

Woah I just got deja vu

I finished Doki Doki Literature club a few days ago. It's a dating sim, except also a spychological horror game where after a while you'll be having a normal conversation with one of the girls then she just out of the blue says something batshit insane that freaks you out with the abruptness of it

I just got that same feeling with your line of posts on this page followed by your 563

[wavemode]

Anywho, what's your point. Are my reads supposed to be perfect because I'm town?

[humaneatingmonkey]

wavemode

CommKnight

Gamma Emerald

havingfitz

humaneatingmonkey

rb

jzhenson93
MawhrinSkel

JunkoChan

mozamis

Hongzi

TwoInAMillion

Almost50

VOTE: Almost50

I don't understand why you had jzhenson as null when he had AI posts. I also don't understand why you had havingfitz and CommKnight here. What I truly don't understand is why A50 was your strongest scumread and why Mozamis was a lean scum. I am inclined to be suspicious at A50 too since that whiteknight on Gamma was standing on shaky grounds and I am inclined to see it as pocketing. But that's WIFOM shit yo.

Also, I also played DDLC. I literally have Monika as my animated wallpaper.

[wavemode]

I mean, jzh's 67 was like, WTF

But almost so WTF that at the time it was hard to see scum being so brazen on such weak footing. So it gave me vague newbtown vibes

But I knew coloring him green on a pure gut feel that I thought he was newbtown would be irresponsible, so I kept him gray. He was clearly a newb, and newbs are unpredictable at best

[wavemode]

Wait, you don't think Comm is town?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I thought Comm was too defensive to be strong town and I'm thinking you would have seen that. I think Comm is strong town NOW after everything.

[wavemode]

No offense but defensiveness is not a good reason to scumread someone. That's probably the biggest myth in mafia

You have to evaluate motivations. I wrote that I didn't see the plan he put forth coming from scum!Comm. Didn't strike me as a fake-dumbtell, as people were calling it

[humaneatingmonkey]

Yeah I know that too. But it looked very very calculated tho.

Do you think both Junko and Mawhrin will flip scum? I highly doubt it. Who do you think it is among the good town players? I'm thinking Moz has potential but after revisiting his #164. So rb and havingfitz is my other lynch pool. What do you think about that?

[havingfitz]

I'm town because the wagon on me was utter ass. Anyone competent could see that even before the TIAM flip

If it was utter ass...who was scum on it? Just TIAM with the 5th vote near the end? Or was your wagon town driven? In which case you are absolutely in no way cleared.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Goddamnit.

I'm thinking Moz has potential but after revisiting his #164 I don't think he will flip scum ever.