Mini 1955: Perpetual MYLO III - Game Over!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like that scenario sounds as likely to me, more so if his reads were mostly correct.

Inb4 NKA WIFOM.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wisdom was hard defending DS until D2, until his last reads post.
Wisdom gets NK'd.
DS is now lynchable, some ppl wanted to lynch him D3 (except Maki, probs another reason why Maki is town now that I think about it), Maki rallied people towards scum Dunn even at the cost of her own life until people decided to be uncooperative (including me) and lynched kunk, D4, again with DS.

It's like... DS has been a lynch option ever since Wisdom died.

It's like... Wisdom was totally not killed to enable a ML on DS.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wisdom was hard defending DS until D2, until his last reads post.
Wisdom gets NK'd.
DS is now lynchable, some ppl wanted to lynch him D3 (except Maki, probs another reason why Maki is town now that I think about it), Maki rallied people towards scum Dunn even at the cost of her own life until people decided to be uncooperative (including me) and lynched kunk, D4, again with DS.

It's like... DS has been a lynch option ever since Wisdom died.

It's like... Wisdom was totally not killed to enable a ML on DS.

ok. let's assume Diamond is town. and Maki is town.
the scumteam is now Lycan/Shuichi. as soon as one of them sacrifices, the other is confirmed scum. do you agree?

That assumes that I trust you to be town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mean sure, you just gave yourself a card to never ML me ever, I guess, but that doesnt mean you cant ML DS, sac your partner and convince me the other is the actual scum.
You just gave yourself a 1v1 card with whoever of the 2 is not your partner if you're scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Although I guess I do wonder why scum you doesnt hammer DS earlier........

Damn that puts a hole in my logic

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh wait it was Lycan, not DS, I misremembered

[Kaede Akamatsu]

A Chara/Lycan scumteam doesnt make sense unless They were hoping that Lycan's push on Chara wouldn't get anywhere, ergo maybe im wrong on Chara.

Or Maki's right and scum is just busing to make sure they arent seen as scum.

This is hard...

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ugh tempting...
But i wonder if im already falling by the scum's trap

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You know what, i dont see a scumteam that doesnt include Lycan at this point regardless of Chara's actual alignment so...
VOTE: Lycan

[Kaede Akamatsu]

was that even a hammer? I assumed it was due to Chara's post, but I didnt bother counting

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Pls flip scum

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Then why did you vote Lycan!

ASDKADAJHDSAA

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Spoiler:

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ugh I want to KMS so hard...
Sorry I'm too tired and too mad at myself to think right now, hopefully i wake up with a clearer head.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If you faked saying "I'm crying irl rn" to get out of a push in a mafia game fuck you fuck you honestly that's not

I didnt tho?
And more importantly why did that even make me town?

As for everything else.
Yes im aware of DS flipping scum.
Yes im also aware of Dunn flipping scum.
Yes im also aware i hard defended DS, im also aware that I wanted to lynch kunk and Lycan.

Im aware I did all those things...
So please stop rubbing more salt into the wound TIA.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Regardless i dont have the energy to scumhunt the old fashioned way, so ill try something else.
Maki can you please unvote me
Chara can you please vote me.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Did everyone vanish?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I don't think that's how it works in mafia nor IRL.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Did you do your research?
I've been waiting.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wait DS TR me at some point?
I missed that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

????

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Not sure what you're trying to get at with that search.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Where have you been all day yesterday to just react to that now?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well nevermind that, I have my reasons for it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

well the self vote in here didnt look like AtE at all, unlike the one in the game that shall not be named, but i still dont think she's scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Honestly I've been feeling like doing something reckless.
Because that's how I feel about this game.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ah thanks
VOTE: Kaede
There, now either im wrong and we lose, or im right and Shuichi and Maki have a 50/50 shot.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

oh lord.

well. i'm town

Cool, are you worried that Maki might be scum?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

but i have to admit i'm kind of ok with the whole situation because a large part of me would like the simplification.

I literally dont see Maki going the way she went about her read on me as scum, hence why if im wrong, then we lose, recklessness is necessary in situations like this.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Now, if Chara's scum instead of Maki I need to figure out why the entire of scum sacrifices happened the way they happened.
But in the 0.0001% chance that Maki's scum that will QH Imma wait first.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well without Lycan, me and Maki there was no way DS was ever getting lynched yesterday.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wait, wasnt it you who kept prodding me to vote DS until I eventually used Wisdom as a defense for not lynching him?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So 2 scenarios pop into my mind, either scum!Chara wanted to lay in the back until i got 2 votes and QH.

Or we're losing soon...

Dammit i need to stop second guessing myself, there's no way Maki's scum........

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Or im in some sort of bizarro world and all of you are scum trolling me.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ugh this is why im bad at XyLo.
I think im just gonna wait until it's confirmed whether Maki's town or scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I do admit, your posts are making me lose confidence.
It's obvious regardless that whoever of you 2 was scum sacrificed DS with the intent of putting me as a mislynch today, and if i let things keep stalling im gonna be the default lynch anyway and town's gonna lose. So I either help scum achieve what they want to achieve or reduce the list of suspects for the other 2 towns.
I mean, i was already ready for this ever since I saw the DS flip so... this is probably gonna turn out like that game that shall not be named anyway.

I dont even know if this is the right way to proceed anymore but im already commited to it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Basically we reaching this step is entirely my fault and I accept that, and if im wrong again then it's only fitting that im the final ML.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

That post isnt me being upset at ppl finding my stances scummy, is me admitting that I made a lot of mistakes and being upset at people rubbing salt into the wound.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh because im town obv.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Speaking of day 4

@Mod: The thread title still says Day 4

P-Edit: You were already voting me lol

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well that was a quick fix. Mod is lightning fast today. Might as well fix the Alive/Dead too xD

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why do you always randomly pop in games.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

[Maki waiting room]

[Kaede Akamatsu]

VOTE: Chara
K maki's town too good to know

[Kaede Akamatsu]

See I just made this easier for you!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well good thing it wasnt about it being funny, but about it being useful.
Good Luck!
Hopefully you and Shuichi will come to the right conclusion and vote Chara.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well it was either i stake the game on maki being town, which, as i said earlier, i dont see a scum maki making those posts at the start of the day.
Or I get ML'd anyway.

And tbh, i dont think ill ever win a 1v1 with you, regardless, but it seemed like my ML was going to be a foregone conclusion if i didnt do SOMETHING, and im glad that my gut was right this time.

So it was either i get ML'd and town loses or I do something reckless and lock scum in a 1v1 with a chance of an insta loss.

I couldnt afford to turn back no matter what.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What's kinda funny is:

i was sort of hoping Maki would vote her

I was kinda hoping i was wrong and she was scum that would QH me.
Because now I really have to 1v1 you, and i got all stakes against me, that i dont even wanna bother trying.

But at least it's better than having to wait out the entire deadline.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why would i even make them then?
If im scum I already knew Maki wasnt going to QH.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

when did you decide Shuichi was conftown, Kaede?

When he didnt hammer.
I had an inkling of possible earlier because from my PoV you came into the day saying he's conf town so either you were town noticing something i didnt, or you were scum which means shuichi was town anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

re: posts on Maki: you make them because you're trying to look town.
you answered me about why scum you wouldn't make those posts instead of saying why you

did

. why did you?

Because I had doubts, and i've always been taught to not take with me to the grave stuff like that see, if Maki had turned out to be scum and QH'd me i couldnt go postgame and say "Well i actually did think she could be scum but decided to not say it".
Now "To look town"
Oh boy, that's like the holy chalice of shade from the scum handbook 101, and possibly townies that are too paranoid.

If i were to earn a dollar everytime someone says that about my posts when im town i'd be a millionaire by now.

And see, it's posts like that why I started hating rolling scum, because I USED to be a very good one to the point that "She can fake everything" became a thing ppl used to mislynch me, and im frankly tired of seeing it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like seriously just that sort of things gets on my nerves so much that im taking this personal now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh boohoo, your mislynch AtE'd to high levels of town and now you have to back off it coz im 1v1ing you.

Too bad.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh so you were banking on me saying it was NAI to ML me got it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

no, actually.
i was giving you opportunities to save face in postgame.
were you actually faking?

Nothing was ever faked,
Why would I have a need to fake anything?

Are you doing just busywork now?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh right you HAVE to make it look like im faking stuff "to look town", sorry I forgot.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

That's a much better attacking point but...
You crossed a line that should not be crossed.

And yes I got upset when you cased me because I'm town like it or not, but I guess you have no other option but to backtrack on that now do you.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

re: posts on Maki: you make them because you're trying to look town.
you answered me about why scum you wouldn't make those posts instead of saying why you

did

. why did you?

Because I had doubts, and i've always been taught to not take with me to the grave stuff like that see, if Maki had turned out to be scum and QH'd me i couldnt go postgame and say "Well i actually did think she could be scum but decided to not say it".
Now "To look town"
Oh boy, that's like the holy chalice of shade from the scum handbook 101, and possibly townies that are too paranoid.

If i were to earn a dollar everytime someone says that about my posts when im town i'd be a millionaire by now.

And see, it's posts like that why I started hating rolling scum, because I USED to be a very good one to the point that "She can fake everything" became a thing ppl used to mislynch me, and im frankly tired of seeing it.

Like seriously just that sort of things gets on my nerves so much that im taking this personal now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

>Asking me to not engage on AtE.

You sure have no idea who you're playing with do you.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

i'm not going to take your bait because i don't want to win that way.
and i could win that way.

i'll just wait for Maki and Shuichi.

For one I would love to see you try!
But then you're just gonna say "SEE SHE'S BAITING ME SHE'S TOTES SCUM" so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Speaking of bait, I gotta admit that stuff you pulled with DS yesterday to then sac him was great and that has reduced my chances of winning this 1v1 by a lot, I applaud you for that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm not very good at pushing scum, yes.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hence why I already said I dont think I have much chances of winning this 1v1, but at least I can't say I didnt try to show people the right path.
But you made one big mistake, into thinking that you could get Maki ML'd today and now have to engage with your:

to be clear i'm not scumreading Kaede, no. she's town and i stand by the post, feel free to quote it at me.

townread.

Sorry not sorry.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

good job on making it seem i made anything personal. or crossed any lines. you can't even keep that fake frustration straight.

Now who's baiting who.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

the difference is i know you're scum.

Likewise.

You seem to bring up this "I know you're scum" point a lot, but the truth of the matter is... you have no choice but to say it, because there's 2 conftowns here already so you have no other one to push.
And the fact that you keep bringing it up shows that you have nothing else to show for yourself.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wait a second.

Did i just correctly scumread a scum buddying me?


OMFG I HAVE IMPROVED!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Actually nah, Chara was waffling a lot on that, probably shouldnt feel too happy about it, it's not in that one game with that one player.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wait, wasnt it you who kept prodding me to vote DS until I eventually used Wisdom as a defense for not lynching him?

there's this

incredible

post.

Yes it's incredible, because it's your strat.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

i have your hops on and off of Wicked from earlier.

Says the person that was townreading him and scumreading kunk D2 until Lycan destroyed that.
At the very least my hops on and off were obviously because everytime he posted he looked towny to me.
Says the person that admitted to lynching lycan and admitted he was flipping town.

But hey let's ignore all those "mistakes" and focus on mine why not, that's certainly going to get you credit.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

my emotional energy can be better served someplace else.
this is probably enough to get you lynched.

I do admit, knowing my lack of skill at 1v1ing it probably will be.
But at least im glad that my final read turned out right.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway it probably should've been a good idea to stop engaging with conf scum since long ago, but i got caught in madness and... well I really have no excuse for that.
Should probably only interact with conf town to begin with, so if Shuichi and Maki have any questions for me i'll be happy to answer, wont be replying to Chara's posts anymore.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway it probably should've been a good idea to stop engaging with conf scum since long ago

But seriously this sudden realization made me feel like an idiot now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Fuck reads, fuck ATE, fuck guessing. It's time for VOTE COUNT ANALYSIS

Surely this proves that this game has finally driven me insane

Coming from the person that says they hate VCA, i can tell it is indeed driving you insane.
As I said earlier a 1v1 of me vs scum!Chara I dont have much hopes on winning anyway

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Fuck reads, fuck ATE, fuck guessing. It's time for VOTE COUNT ANALYSIS

Surely this proves that this game has finally driven me insane

Coming from the person that says they hate VCA, i can tell it is indeed driving you insane.
As I said earlier a 1v1 of me vs scum!Chara I dont have much hopes on winning anyway

I think that a part of you wants to lose.

I think that a part of me realized we already lost the momment I realized scum!Chara played me like a puppet.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

See, I already knew this was going to happen.
Maybe it would have been better to let scum!Chara QH me when Maki was still voting me...

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Stop it

Ok fine i'll stop it, doesnt make me feel any less awful about it.
Like im tempted to just self hammer to end this and let scum!Chara win because he deserves it after all that busing without his partners getting lynched.
So I sent a message to ffery asking if that's okay, because I dont really have the energy to try and explain myself more than I have already done, because if you can't see i'm wrong town and not scum then town never wins this.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Nah, my game was terrible, I let not one, but TWO scum escape me.
I guess it's my fate to lose my games at this point.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I am not lynched yet.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What were you expecting me to be forgetting?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Stop it

Ok fine i'll stop it, doesnt make me feel any less awful about it.
Like im tempted to just self hammer to end this and let scum!Chara win because he deserves it after all that busing without his partners getting lynched.
So I sent a message to ffery asking if that's okay, because I dont really have the energy to try and explain myself more than I have already done, because if you can't see i'm wrong town and not scum then town never wins this.

This makes it obvious im aware i wasnt hammered.
Also, if you didnt unvote me i'd have self hammered back when i self voted.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well I was hoping you'd have made a decission or i'd have received a reply already but now i need to be away for a couple hours.
So I wont be able to answer any questions until then.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Surprised neither of you ever had any questions for me.
(Also yes im back for now)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Thanks

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And sorry about Day 3.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And dont worry, you wont hear from me for a very long while.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Goodbye my friends.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I enjoyed having you

I shattered my town meta to pieces.
I'm not sure my heart or my sanity will be able to handle what's to come after this.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Sorry, and goodbye...

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ftr i lied about not reading the game, i just happened to TR Mulch before i rep'd him, then im like "well fuck"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I was pretty much #rekt since i rep'd in, everyone of my partners was being SR'd and I only manage to get my own slot TR which is useless unless we got 2 mislynches, and the last one only happened after i hard defended DS which damned me.
I'm pretty surprised we at least managed to even the score after having to bus twice in a row, and im happy with that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Fun fact, i was planning my first post to be "Who is wisdom voting and why are they not dead yet" even tho i knew he wanted wicked, then i saw i was scum WITH wicked AND michael AND acid AND DS, and im like "Well that's not such a good idea anymore now is it"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Fun fact i didnt want to kill Dunn that night.
I thought it was VERY suboptimal and my partners not listening to me made me mad and Day 4 is just lurked a lot.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Me going into this: Scum wouldn't be stupid enough to hardcore bus
Me last day: WHAT IS LOGIC ANYMORE

It was indeed stupid, and that's the main reason my whole team was in the situation it was in, the momment i rep'd in it was too late already.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also here's a fun fact, i was the only scum voting wicked at the end of day 2.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh i thought the dead PT was spoiled, but I guess my play fooled even the dead. Even tho i havent finished reading it yet.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Btw, since you're talking about plans.
I never had any, I dont plan, I just play by ear.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I have a really shitty memory sometimes, and I thought that I couldnt be able to ML maki, if Chara's scum shuichi's town, and chara's town, chara saw something that made Shuichi conftown, and so im like "Well guess im 1v1ing with Chara, might as well do it recklessly than letting deadline continue to tick tock and have the lynch default to me"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You should have sacrificed n4.

I didnt want Maki to see me flip scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I have a really shitty memory sometimes, and I thought that I couldnt be able to ML maki, if Chara's scum shuichi's town, and chara's town, chara saw something that made Shuichi conftown, and so im like "Well guess im 1v1ing with Chara, might as well do it recklessly than letting deadline continue to tick tock and have the lynch default to me"

Maki might have been a better choice there, but i really can't say and hindsight is 20/20.
Shuichi was the only one i was never lynching going into day 5.

As I said im not good at planning or anything, I just saw how Maki reacted and im like "Well town me never SRs Maki for that so..."

[Kaede Akamatsu]

thank you for modding, ffery!

This too.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Dunnstral was basically screaming "Hey lynch me I'm scum"

Oh yeah i didnt like that either.
Basically my mind was like
"Dunn is being obvscum, and i cant vote him coz that's playing against win con"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

How 2 play as scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm not kidding when i said the main reason i sac'd you was because I didnt want Maki to see my scum flip earlier.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm not happy with the result, not the "We lost" result but the "My town meta has been obliterated and im going to be ML'd 100000 times again" result.
It makes me too scared to play mafia again.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm not kidding when i said the main reason i sac'd you was because I didnt want Maki to see my scum flip earlier.

Why if I may ask is it cause of the ate

Yes.
I figured as soon as you saw me flip scum you'd hate me for the D3 AtE (which btw it wasnt fake)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

@ffery: Can i copy/paste that one post that i said i didnt want to forget to post in postgame?

(that's quite a lot of "post" lol)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

you'd better have some sort of elaboration on 2901 in postgame.
that's all..

btw chara, what did you mean by this

[Kaede Akamatsu]

This is what i meant earlier
"What happened Day 3 is that I was quite snappy at the time due to outside influence had been through rough momments and my sanity was close to snapping, hence it was easy to get upset by literally anything and that's how that resulted in what happened, there's no faking anything I did literally get upset about what was going on and Maki's comment just flat out pissed me off, not because if i were town she would've pissed me off with it, but because I was too annoyed already and hence I ended up dropping the fact that I was crying and her post didnt make me feel any better.

That wasnt related to alignment and more of a state of mind that I had at the time and out of circumstance that's how things went, and Im sorry if she feels like that's something that was faked to get out of a push, generally I wouldn't have minded because I hate playing scum to begin with, but due to Wicked relying on me to carry this I felt like I had to DO something, and that's how I ended up actually tryharding instead of flat out giving up."

[Kaede Akamatsu]

im going to be ML'd 100000 times again

sadly, yeah
i thought i finally can read you now but nope

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You're easier to read than you give yourself credit for. Maki and Chara outscummed you for most of the game.

So you say, but if it was that easy i wouldnt have lived the insane ammount of MLs before.
It also doesnt help that me being wrong as town happens a lot lately

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You know what, i'll still keep playing.
There's still the chance that ppl dont become to paranoid of me, I mean the easiest way to read me is via enthusiasm.

Although if it becomes too frustrating i'll def. quit again.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

im going to be ML'd 100000 times again

sadly, yeah
i thought i finally can read you now but nope

Im going to hope you can see differences between this and DRV3, otherwise im probably going to have a hard time on my future games.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway congrats to town
Condolences to wolves

Ehhhh i dont mind much that loss tbh.
The only thing i mind is this game's impact on my town games.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

All I learned from this game is that im gonna avoid replacing into games.
I was literally mad at my entire team most of the time, specially D3+
And all this game did was destroy my town meta and i didnt even gain anything from it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Speaking of, sorry ffery for spamming you so much with my rants

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Semi seriously, I’d say it’s not a bad idea to read games before you sub and mainly sub for people yiu think are town. Once in a while yiu YOLO it but in general if you’re decent at reading alignment, it’ll help your town rand rate.

Im p.sure i said earlier that's what i did and thought Mulch was town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

All I know is that im gonna regret replacing here for a... very... long... time.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Which is funny coz the main reason i rep'd in here was coz i wanted to play with Maki and Wis and this is what I ended up getting.
A game that makes me mad just to talk about.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Mulch was so transparently anti-town that his partner petitioned the mod to force replace him.

Well yeah you see i had just seen him play like that in a game that was ongoing at the time and he had flipped town, obv i couldnt tell anyone that's why I TR him, so I never brought it up back then, but that was the main reason I thought he was town, jokes on me I guess.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

or you can just write it off as “fuck this game” and move on. Which if you’re really unhappy may well be the best idea.

I would like to.
But I cant.
If it was just me I would, but this game's bound to haunt me for several months, whether I like it or not.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Dunno the game felt way more townsided than scumsided to me.
But I replaced in the middle of day 1 so what do I know.

Doesnt feel like the town needs any extra help to make it LyLo without issue.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I kinda giggled when Ceph called me a true busmaster tho...
Or so I would say if this was back in the day when i was proud of my scumgame, now i hate it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm referring to this btw:

and hell, whoever scum is here obviously is a true busmaster so how the hell do i know what they know about being able to get away with various things