Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[Thor665]

REGALE ME OH PEA-BRAINED ONE OF THE SCENARIOS I'M NOT ACCOUNTING FOR THAT MAKES C ANYTHING OTHER THAN A MORON'S LYNCH

If we mislynch

[Creature]

More like a hard scumclaim.

[Thor665]

VOTE: Group A

Is this a hardclaim of having a brain thor?

I have already discussed with you my thoughts on the lynch plan back on Day 2 and my vote remains in line with what I claimed as functional strategy then.
So if this is a hardclaim - it's a hardclaim of you not having a memory.

[chesskid3]

REGALE ME OH PEA-BRAINED ONE OF THE SCENARIOS I'M NOT ACCOUNTING FOR THAT MAKES C ANYTHING OTHER THAN A MORON'S LYNCH

If we mislynch

Wat I don't follow. Mislynch in A means they kill in A what's the problem?

[Creature]

We lose another PR most likely.

[chesskid3]

VOTE: Group A

Is this a hardclaim of having a brain thor?

I have already discussed with you my thoughts on the lynch plan back on Day 2 and my vote remains in line with what I claimed as functional strategy then.
So if this is a hardclaim - it's a hardclaim of you not having a memory.

You know I don't listen when people who aren't me talk


You were for the fuck it yolo school of group picking right?

[chesskid3]

We lose another PR most likely.

Yeah given where we are at I dont really value this over a confirm inno

[Creature]

What confirm inno?

[chesskid3]

Like

for the same of argument lets assume Von is the last scum in C and EddieFenix replacement is town

If we lynch Eddie -> Creature killed and then Von -> anyone in C killed, there are 3 conftown players 2 days from now

whereas if we lynch Von -> C clear dies -> Eddie, one more conftown dies, whichever landed in A, there's only 2 conftown players

[Creature]

[chesskid3]

it's the SAME lynches

just in a different order

that keeps people who will become cleared (since we lynched well in C) alive

[Creature]

You're assuming vonflare is scum.

[chesskid3]

No the WHO doesn't matter.

Yes we could ML in C and blow it all sure, but there is NO scenario where we benefit from the other order

[Majiffy]

REGALE ME OH PEA-BRAINED ONE OF THE SCENARIOS I'M NOT ACCOUNTING FOR THAT MAKES C ANYTHING OTHER THAN A MORON'S LYNCH

The last living PR is in A. If we mislynch in C scum has to shoot a VT and we still don't lose. Buys us a free mislynch and a report.

If we hit Goon in C scum (basically) has to hit in the clears - all VTs. Buys us multiple reports.

It's a win-win.

[chesskid3]

PR results are close to useless with a 2-1 ratio of scum PRs. I'd rather have the IC

[Majiffy]

We lose another PR most likely.

Yeah given where we are at I dont really value this over a confirm inno

We have 0 confirmed innos until we lynch in C and hit goon so you're shooting your own argument here.

[Creature]

We'll discuss better which group to choose tomorrow.

[Creature]

tbh chesskid's argument already falls when it relies on vonflare being scum.

[Majiffy]

No the WHO doesn't matter.

Yes we could ML in C and blow it all sure, but there is NO scenario where we benefit from the other order

Kinda does matter since we're in disagreement on which lynches where in each of the groups.

Ergo your "it's the same lynches" is ... patently not true.

[chesskid3]

tbh chesskid's argument already falls when it relies on vonflare being scum.


tbh chesskid's argument already falls when it relies on vonflare being scum.

except it 0% relies on a specific person thats why is says for the same of argument lets assume

[chesskid3]

No the WHO doesn't matter.

Yes we could ML in C and blow it all sure, but there is NO scenario where we benefit from the other order

Kinda does matter since we're in disagreement on which lynches where in each of the groups.

Ergo your "it's the same lynches" is ... patently not true.

Uhhh yes the lynch decided by the playerlist

with order reversed

keeps ICs alive

yes

this is not

difficult

[chesskid3]

can* keep ICs alive


vs no downside

[Majiffy]

tbh chesskid's argument already falls when it relies on vonflare being scum.


tbh chesskid's argument already falls when it relies on vonflare being scum.

except it 0% relies on a specific person thats why is says for the same of argument lets assume

Because for the sake of argument flips change lynches so it simply does not work that way


Wait hold on I think there's an image for this



Which one are you?

[Majiffy]

can* keep ICs alive

vs no downside

Downside is not lynching scum

Pretty big downside.

[Ginngie]

we lynch A

ayyyy lmao

get

A