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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:34 am

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Hey, checking in.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:54 am

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In post 9, Lalendra wrote:VOTE: maxous for checking in and not placing mandatory RVS vote.
You made a puppy cry
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Post Post #20 (isolation #2) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:16 am

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In post 14, Sauce wrote:VOTE: Maxous

Not going to sheep Not_Mafia
and now a kitten is crying too
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Post Post #42 (isolation #3) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:37 am

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VOTE: mutantdevle

I don't like post #29 either

Seems like an over-reaction to only one guy kinda scumreading you
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Post Post #44 (isolation #4) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:48 am

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Maybe 'trying a bit too hard to be jokey'?

idk, still kinda rubbed me the wrong way
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Post Post #59 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:42 am

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Uhh, I hope this doesn't seem like I'm copying Math too much but yes,

VOTE: Bins

The unexplained vote on Elmo was poor
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Post Post #85 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:41 am

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In post 83, Bins wrote:Reading over and Maxous is also a decent place for votes. When you say "I hope this doesn't seem like I'm copying", it normally just leads me to think that it seems like. Especially when you vote me for an unexplained vote with a vote that was explained just as well.
I'm simply aware I followed his vote twice in a row.
Elmo is gut-town for me anyway.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:32 am

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^
towniest post of the game so far
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Post Post #130 (isolation #8) » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:47 am

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I should of stuck with my first vote

VOTE: mutantdevle

he ignored giving any reads or analysis and popped in just to talk theory.

Bins did not "scumslip"
i'm not convinced she's town but mutant is the first solid scumtell i have here so far

i'm leaning towards an A50 town-read.
i'm actually not convinced on Math being town despite how vocal and aggressive he's being tbh
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Post Post #133 (isolation #9) » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:10 pm

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It's not as if he's given any reads apart from that

his ISO is rather reactive
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Post Post #179 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:21 am

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happy christmas folks, lemme just get caught up
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Post Post #180 (isolation #11) » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:34 am

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In post 141, mutantdevle wrote:I'm an ask and you shall receive kind of guy.
you only have one completed game on this site but this does *not* check out buddy


you were perfectly fine giving your own reads there without anyone asking.
In post 174, Mathdino wrote:
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Are there any other scumreads you guys have that aren't on my town list?
fine, he comes across as one of those players that might be easier to read as the game goes on since he's relatively new.
i've completely cooled off on a bins wagon though
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Post Post #181 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:36 am

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In post 176, Chip Butty wrote:My vote on havingfitz is probably a bit stale. Will reread and review...
In post 172, Chip Butty wrote:I should be able to put more effort into the game now...
In post 171, Chip Butty wrote:Back on deck, and rereading in a few hours, with any luck.
In post 134, Chip Butty wrote:First complete readthrough: A50 is town. MD is 70% town. Bins is 70% scum. Mutant could well be SK. Lots of boring setup talk, to which I will now add my two cent's worth:

If I knew right now who the SK is, I would lynch them without a second thought. Even if it is in their interests to work with town for now, they're still more likely to shoot town than scum. We're looking at potentially 3 deaths per day/night cycle, and could lose real quick.

More reads soonish, I hope.
possible scum here
promising more reads but struggling to give them
i've been in this kind of situation before as scum where you over-promise and struggle to back it up
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Post Post #182 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:38 am

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i'll hammer not_mafia anytime.
Sauce is threatening to be in the same boat too
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Post Post #238 (isolation #14) » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:14 am

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In post 198, Almost50 wrote:@Mathdino/mutant: I beg to differ. Sauce is probably town for that post for many reasons, but the one I'm going to out now is no scum would want to go against the flow and alienate themselves to everyone, and
especially so
the lone scumster.
i suppose i can see this, he's kinda begging for the vig and/or cop
In post 204, havingfitz wrote:Not a fan of the Maxous push on mutant but mutant response/s feel town.
meh?
In post 216, Raya36 wrote:Honestly townreading Sauce over that list where basically everyone was scum. I doubt mafia would be so obvious as to keep there options open like that. Could be sk too as some people mentioned but
I'm staying away from that since I don't have much sk hunting experience
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hmm

maybe you are scummy
sounds like you really don't want the SK to shoot you
In post 221, Chip Butty wrote:I've looked at the ISOs of MD, NM, Raya, and A50 just now, but I still need to go back and do a proper readthrough.
so you've looked at the ISO's but you won't give thoughts until you read-through again?
you're being overly cautious about reads...which is particularly surprising given the aggression of your first post.
In post 224, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 223, Raya36 wrote:Why are you trying so hard to put together a scumteam 9 pages into D1?
VOTE: Raya
yeah i can see where this is coming from
In post 225, Raya36 wrote:I've never seen anything good ever come from someone trying to guess the scumteam D1. Definitely hunt for scum but I don't see the point in all the meta and preflip associatives for the sake of trying to come up with the entire scum team.
@Raya:
ok, but are you suggesting Mathdino is scum because he's trying to force a scumteam so early?
or more likely to be scum at least

I like the recent above posts from lalendra

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i'm probably working out of a {chip, raya, mutant, NM,
Sauce(?)
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edit: eh, maybe not Sauce. i'll leave for him now
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Post Post #308 (isolation #15) » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:49 am

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Bins didn't scumslip, what are you talking about.
If she "scumslipped" then vote her.

I specifically explained why I switched and since then her posting has been better so...reads evolve. Especially early
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Post Post #310 (isolation #16) » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:06 am

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I'm not gonna lie and agree about a 'scumslip' I don't agree with it.
That's tunneling at best.
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Post Post #316 (isolation #17) » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:50 am

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Tell you what, if Bins flips scum feel free to give me shit.
Until then, I don't care
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Post Post #409 (isolation #18) » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:56 pm

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so i do have a confession to make: i was phone-posting last night and didn't actually see Math's cop claim on Bins.

though even if i did i don't think my answers would of changed too much. i don't believe the claim, honestly i'm surprised Bins gave up.

Bins could easily be mafia instead of third party, i wouldn't believe her claim in the slightest.

i'm not overly stoked about not_mafia's "too scummy to be scum" post here.

Chip Butty needs to go. Talk about lost scum in this game

i'll rethink the mutant and raya reads, it was a lot of pages to process all at once there

but yeah, real hardening scum-read on Chip, he had no clue how he was supposed to react to the cop situation among other things
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Post Post #421 (isolation #19) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:40 am

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In post 410, Not_Mafia wrote:Why is that too scummy to be scum?
You know what you're suggesting is against the town yet you're doing it anyway.
I'm not gonna buy a bluff of "no way would scum *actually* do this so he must be town"
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Post Post #427 (isolation #20) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:00 am

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I'm not even bothering after this.
You don't know Bins is SK, in fact it is unlikely due to probabilities and you're being obtuse on purpose.
Into the scumbucket you go.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:54 am

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Hammer whenever you want.
I don't think there's a whole lot to be gained since everyone has checked in
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Post Post #490 (isolation #22) » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:10 pm

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VOTE: Chip Butty
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Post Post #491 (isolation #23) » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:13 pm

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Those flips don't really look good for Fitz tbh.
I think he called them all scum
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Post Post #492 (isolation #24) » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:18 pm

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It's hard to read too much into Bins' ISO here.
All I'll say is I think mutant is unlikely to be a scumbuddy
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Post Post #643 (isolation #25) » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:46 am

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In post 496, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 492, Maxous wrote:All I'll say is I think mutant is unlikely to be a scumbuddy
Could you elaborate on your logic here? Obviously I am glad that you think this but I did defend and buddy Bins a bit so it wouldn't be unreasonable for someone to conclude we share the same alignment. I don't see how my interactions with Bins would make the opposite unlikely unless you are going by the logic that scum wouldn't so openly associate with each other like that.
the more i think about it the more certain i am that Bins would of thrown you under the bus during your early wagon.
Seeing her passively defend you makes me think you're not buddies
In post 501, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 181, Maxous wrote:
In post 176, Chip Butty wrote:My vote on havingfitz is probably a bit stale. Will reread and review...
In post 172, Chip Butty wrote:I should be able to put more effort into the game now...
In post 171, Chip Butty wrote:Back on deck, and rereading in a few hours, with any luck.
In post 134, Chip Butty wrote:First complete readthrough: A50 is town. MD is 70% town. Bins is 70% scum. Mutant could well be SK. Lots of boring setup talk, to which I will now add my two cent's worth:

If I knew right now who the SK is, I would lynch them without a second thought. Even if it is in their interests to work with town for now, they're still more likely to shoot town than scum. We're looking at potentially 3 deaths per day/night cycle, and could lose real quick.

More reads soonish, I hope.
possible scum here
promising more reads but struggling to give them
i've been in this kind of situation before as scum where you over-promise and struggle to back it up
Really? Was it over the leadup to Xmas/NY?
no, it's you constantly informing us that you've read the game yet you didn't give any reads.
You didn't even bother writing a quick line or two -
despite reading the game
- and actually ended day 1 with basically no stances.
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Post Post #644 (isolation #26) » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:51 am

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That's just two quotes i wanted to respond to as i was catching up.
Honestly, there's not a whole lot i want to talk about regarding the vig/sk discussions. I *think* i know what generally happened but it's speculative and probably not useful.
I certainly wouldn't want a lynch before Fitz arrives back as he is on the suspect list.

As of now i'm still okay with a Chip vote, he's not really doing much to change my mind about being scum.
Chip quoting MathDino's reads isn't endearing him to me either...like is there a specific point to it?
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Post Post #645 (isolation #27) » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:56 am

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In post 480, Equinox wrote:Bins (7) - Almost50,
Mathdino, Lalendra
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Raya36
I think A50 was making the point that this isn't all town.
yeah, i could see that. Cop result or not if a mafia is being flipped, as a buddy you generally would want to try and wiggle onto the wagon just for appearance's sake if nothing else
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Post Post #646 (isolation #28) » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:59 am

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as of right now i would be thinking a Chip or Fitz lynch
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