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Hey, checking in."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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You made a puppy cry
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and now a kitten is crying too
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VOTE: mutantdevle
I don't like post #29 either
Seems like an over-reaction to only one guy kinda scumreading you"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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Maybe 'trying a bit too hard to be jokey'?
idk, still kinda rubbed me the wrong way"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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Uhh, I hope this doesn't seem like I'm copying Math too much but yes,
VOTE: Bins
The unexplained vote on Elmo was poor"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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I'm simply aware I followed his vote twice in a row.In post 83, Bins wrote:Reading over and Maxous is also a decent place for votes. When you say "I hope this doesn't seem like I'm copying", it normally just leads me to think that it seems like. Especially when you vote me for an unexplained vote with a vote that was explained just as well.
Elmo is gut-town for me anyway."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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towniest post of the game so far"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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I should of stuck with my first vote
VOTE: mutantdevle
he ignored giving any reads or analysis and popped in just to talk theory.
Bins did not "scumslip"
i'm not convinced she's town but mutant is the first solid scumtell i have here so far
i'm leaning towards an A50 town-read.
i'm actually not convinced on Math being town despite how vocal and aggressive he's being tbh"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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It's not as if he's given any reads apart from that
his ISO is rather reactive"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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happy christmas folks, lemme just get caught up"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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you only have one completed game on this site but this does *not* check out buddyIn post 141, mutantdevle wrote:I'm an ask and you shall receive kind of guy.
you were perfectly fine giving your own reads there without anyone asking.
fine, he comes across as one of those players that might be easier to read as the game goes on since he's relatively new.In post 174, Mathdino wrote:@Elmo/Maxous: I really don't see how mutant's evolution on his Bins read could be read as anything but town. Do you guys have an argument more than "gut", being low-key useless, and subpar logic? Cuz I'd argue the same thing to you that I did to him -- player quality/logic quality are non-alignment-indicative.
Are there any other scumreads you guys have that aren't on my town list?
i've completely cooled off on a bins wagon though"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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In post 176, Chip Butty wrote:My vote on havingfitz is probably a bit stale. Will reread and review...In post 172, Chip Butty wrote:I should be able to put more effort into the game now...In post 171, Chip Butty wrote:Back on deck, and rereading in a few hours, with any luck.
possible scum hereIn post 134, Chip Butty wrote:First complete readthrough: A50 is town. MD is 70% town. Bins is 70% scum. Mutant could well be SK. Lots of boring setup talk, to which I will now add my two cent's worth:
If I knew right now who the SK is, I would lynch them without a second thought. Even if it is in their interests to work with town for now, they're still more likely to shoot town than scum. We're looking at potentially 3 deaths per day/night cycle, and could lose real quick.
More reads soonish, I hope.
promising more reads but struggling to give them
i've been in this kind of situation before as scum where you over-promise and struggle to back it up"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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i'll hammer not_mafia anytime.
Sauce is threatening to be in the same boat too"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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i suppose i can see this, he's kinda begging for the vig and/or copIn post 198, Almost50 wrote:@Mathdino/mutant: I beg to differ. Sauce is probably town for that post for many reasons, but the one I'm going to out now is no scum would want to go against the flow and alienate themselves to everyone, andthe lone scumster.especially so
meh?In post 204, havingfitz wrote:Not a fan of the Maxous push on mutant but mutant response/s feel town.
hmmIn post 216, Raya36 wrote:Honestly townreading Sauce over that list where basically everyone was scum. I doubt mafia would be so obvious as to keep there options open like that. Could be sk too as some people mentioned butI'm staying away from that since I don't have much sk hunting experience.
maybe you are scummy
sounds like you really don't want the SK to shoot you
so you've looked at the ISO's but you won't give thoughts until you read-through again?In post 221, Chip Butty wrote:I've looked at the ISOs of MD, NM, Raya, and A50 just now, but I still need to go back and do a proper readthrough.
you're being overly cautious about reads...which is particularly surprising given the aggression of your first post.
yeah i can see where this is coming fromIn post 224, Not_Mafia wrote:
VOTE: RayaIn post 223, Raya36 wrote:Why are you trying so hard to put together a scumteam 9 pages into D1?
In post 225, Raya36 wrote:I've never seen anything good ever come from someone trying to guess the scumteam D1. Definitely hunt for scum but I don't see the point in all the meta and preflip associatives for the sake of trying to come up with the entire scum team.ok, but are you suggesting Mathdino is scum because he's trying to force a scumteam so early?@Raya:
or more likely to be scum at least
I like the recent above posts from lalendra
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i'm probably working out of a {chip, raya, mutant, NM,Sauce(?)} pool here atm.
edit: eh, maybe not Sauce. i'll leave for him now"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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Bins didn't scumslip, what are you talking about.
If she "scumslipped" then vote her.
I specifically explained why I switched and since then her posting has been better so...reads evolve. Especially early"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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I'm not gonna lie and agree about a 'scumslip' I don't agree with it.
That's tunneling at best."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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Tell you what, if Bins flips scum feel free to give me shit.
Until then, I don't care"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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so i do have a confession to make: i was phone-posting last night and didn't actually see Math's cop claim on Bins.
though even if i did i don't think my answers would of changed too much. i don't believe the claim, honestly i'm surprised Bins gave up.
Bins could easily be mafia instead of third party, i wouldn't believe her claim in the slightest.
i'm not overly stoked about not_mafia's "too scummy to be scum" post here.
Chip Butty needs to go. Talk about lost scum in this game
i'll rethink the mutant and raya reads, it was a lot of pages to process all at once there
but yeah, real hardening scum-read on Chip, he had no clue how he was supposed to react to the cop situation among other things"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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You know what you're suggesting is against the town yet you're doing it anyway.In post 410, Not_Mafia wrote:Why is that too scummy to be scum?
I'm not gonna buy a bluff of "no way would scum *actually* do this so he must be town""And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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I'm not even bothering after this.
You don't know Bins is SK, in fact it is unlikely due to probabilities and you're being obtuse on purpose.
Into the scumbucket you go."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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Hammer whenever you want.
I don't think there's a whole lot to be gained since everyone has checked in"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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VOTE: Chip Butty"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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Those flips don't really look good for Fitz tbh.
I think he called them all scum"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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It's hard to read too much into Bins' ISO here.
All I'll say is I think mutant is unlikely to be a scumbuddy"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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the more i think about it the more certain i am that Bins would of thrown you under the bus during your early wagon.In post 496, mutantdevle wrote:
Could you elaborate on your logic here? Obviously I am glad that you think this but I did defend and buddy Bins a bit so it wouldn't be unreasonable for someone to conclude we share the same alignment. I don't see how my interactions with Bins would make the opposite unlikely unless you are going by the logic that scum wouldn't so openly associate with each other like that.In post 492, Maxous wrote:All I'll say is I think mutant is unlikely to be a scumbuddy
Seeing her passively defend you makes me think you're not buddies
no, it's you constantly informing us that you've read the game yet you didn't give any reads.In post 501, Chip Butty wrote:
Really? Was it over the leadup to Xmas/NY?In post 181, Maxous wrote:In post 176, Chip Butty wrote:My vote on havingfitz is probably a bit stale. Will reread and review...In post 172, Chip Butty wrote:I should be able to put more effort into the game now...In post 171, Chip Butty wrote:Back on deck, and rereading in a few hours, with any luck.
possible scum hereIn post 134, Chip Butty wrote:First complete readthrough: A50 is town. MD is 70% town. Bins is 70% scum. Mutant could well be SK. Lots of boring setup talk, to which I will now add my two cent's worth:
If I knew right now who the SK is, I would lynch them without a second thought. Even if it is in their interests to work with town for now, they're still more likely to shoot town than scum. We're looking at potentially 3 deaths per day/night cycle, and could lose real quick.
More reads soonish, I hope.
promising more reads but struggling to give them
i've been in this kind of situation before as scum where you over-promise and struggle to back it up
You didn't even bother writing a quick line or two -despite reading the game- and actually ended day 1 with basically no stances."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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That's just two quotes i wanted to respond to as i was catching up.
Honestly, there's not a whole lot i want to talk about regarding the vig/sk discussions. I *think* i know what generally happened but it's speculative and probably not useful.
I certainly wouldn't want a lynch before Fitz arrives back as he is on the suspect list.
As of now i'm still okay with a Chip vote, he's not really doing much to change my mind about being scum.
Chip quoting MathDino's reads isn't endearing him to me either...like is there a specific point to it?"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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I think A50 was making the point that this isn't all town.In post 480, Equinox wrote:Bins (7) - Almost50,Mathdino, Lalendra, Not_Mafia, Chip Butty, mutantdevle,Raya36
yeah, i could see that. Cop result or not if a mafia is being flipped, as a buddy you generally would want to try and wiggle onto the wagon just for appearance's sake if nothing else"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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as of right now i would be thinking a Chip or Fitz lynch"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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