Mini Normal 1976 - The Firsts - Night 2[End Jan 8]

[Mulch]

Derpy has (expectedly) made me lose my enthusiasm for this game

rip

[TwoInAMillion]

You're like the kid who quits the basketball team because he doesn't get along with one player.

[Apple Jack]

He knows arguing with me is pointless but did it anyway. I also find his reads questionable.

[Mulch]

He knows arguing with me is pointless but did it anyway.

This is the truest statement I've ever seen

[Mulch]

You're like the kid who quits the basketball team because he doesn't get along with one player.

I mean, if a kid on the team relentlessly bullied me, I would quit for sure

not that Derpy is "bullying" but it's close imo

[Apple Jack]

I’m not bullying you though. You replaced into a slot I already scummread. You haven’t posted anything that points to you being town. You have very questionable reads on top of that.

Regardless of your alignment stop trying to convince me by talking to me and try convincing me by scum hunting and have reads that make sense. I’ll tell you right now jodax hasn’t done anything that says scum and rb hasn’t done anything that says town. Your explanations for how you got these reads don’t even sound legitimate.

If you don’t like my opinions that’s fine but don’t go whine about it.

[Apple Jack]

Oh and you town lean psycho

[Apple Jack]

Speaking of psycho. He’s vanished into the background

[Mulch]

Derpy stop lecturing me about who has better reads

do I need to pull up all my games with good reads and yours with bad reads

[Apple Jack]

I hate people who live in the past. You are only as good as your current game.

You’ve had some very shitty games. So have I.

I’ve had some very great games...

[Mulch]

I hate people who live in the past. You are only as good as your current game.

You’ve had some very shitty games. So have I.

I’ve had some very great games...

My reads are never shitty

[BuJaber]

So Mulch you agree with me that jodax and sky are scummy but you lump me with them. Typical.. I guess I'll just need to play more games on mafiascum so people know me.

Screw it.. don't vote uncontested PR claims. Town 101.

VOTE: profi

[Mulch]

So Mulch you agree with me that jodax and sky are scummy but you lump me with them. Typical.. I guess I'll just need to play more games on mafiascum so people know me.

ngl this is pretty towny


VOTE: Jodax

back to this

[rb]

im actually not confident profi is scum, just being ridiculous

[PsykoSavant]

Townish on Profii give the reaction to that HEM/DH spectacle.
BuJaber is getting sketch points for wanting to keep around the volatile vig.
HEM had me thinking town to the point of almost LAMIST? (making posts like "everybody stop scum telling, be more town, everyone towntell, etc.") but Mulch has continued to feel town.
Sky_Paladin has done zilch besides vote hop on two players that were looking like good early lynch candidates (TIAM to myself) or pressure/question someone AFTER other people stated their suspicions (jodaxq). I could vote here if it came down to it at deadline.

[profii]

Spoiler:

firstly, before i get started- we could really use some contribution from acryon.

anyway, i read HEM and Derpys ISOs. Probably easiest to look at HEM first- he thinks Psyko is scum because his reaction to 'truly random' was to metadive and find a reason to call him scum, essentially HEM thought that reaction was a bit over the top


then you have Derpy, he thought Psyko lied about the facts, then decided in post 93 that he wasnt right about that, however, psyko is still scummy regardless (p95) (i cant really see why though)


Fast forward to after the argument, where Hem and derpy couldnt work that out for themselves, we ended up with a vig claim (uncontested thus far)

Personally i cant glean a scum read from HEM or Mulch so i need to remove my vote from BuJ as the logic was BuJ was defending his scum mate.

What I can see is a reckless vig who is going to shoot someone come what may - if we lynch town by accident today, then Derpy shoots mulch and scum kill someone else we risk losing 3 town by the time day 2 starts, so purely for damage limitation

VOTE: Derpy Hooves

sorry pal but you are a danger to town

Per policy lynching the vig- I can see your logic but I think it's better to just convince him to shoot someone else. I don't want to lose a near-confirmed town, those are a rare commodity

ta - I’ve made my point and you’ve acknowledged it. I sincerely hope DH gives some strong consideration to whatever he chooses to do over the course of the night/day cycle and I hope my labouring of the point has helped that happen. If so, mission accomplished but what will be will be...

In the mean time I’m going to move my vote back to...

VOTE: BuJaber

Not a tit-for-tat vote but I’ll explain it when I’m not in a service station mid way through driving home for Xmas

[Hawk]

So just a quick read with leans from what I've seen.

I like. (slight townlean)
Monkey
Psycho
RB
and maybe Sky?

I don't like. (Scumlean)
Jodaxq
Derpy

Really don't like 2iAM

VOTE: 2iAM

@Hawk

The reads I didn't like about these- sky was part of them, nothing towny so far at that point from him, and I think it's possible you are scum pushing on an easy mislynch of 2iam because he's consistently lynchbait as town.

That's fair. Sky probably should have just been a null not sure why I didn't even include nulls or leave him off the list. Hmmmmm...... perhaps......

Here's my thoughts.

Now that i've had more time to read and catch up i'm still just as lost as ever. Of course i'm coming off a long hiatus so that could be part of it. Something about jodax stuck to multiple people so far including two people i was town leaning so i can see my vote going there. Anyway, i don't particularly like derpys claim it felt very odd but
i guess he's a very emotional player so benefit of the doubt. Maybe we should look into profil then?

You should never vote a town pr claim d1, or at least i wouldn't. Knowledge is power and knowing that i feel uneasy by his doubt. Seriously, i don't like this.

end thoughts.

So I'm okay with Jodax or Profil at this juncture. 2iAM still pings me but I might have been reading the situation incorrectly as someone stated earlier.

VOTE: Jodax

[TwoInAMillion]

If it's between profi and jodax I'm going with profi.

VOTE: profi

[TwoInAMillion]

profi's assumption of Mulch as town, and Mulch's quick vote of Jodax after profi was voted makes me think they could be a scumteam.

[profii]

profi's assumption of Mulch as town, and Mulch's quick vote of Jodax after profi was voted makes me think they could be a scumteam.

the Jodax one is a tricky one for me. Limited posts but the one everyone is focussed on was a pretty bad one. The decision for me will come when Jodax shares a few reads etc.

I’ve got you as a town read. I’m putting all that stuff in the first few pages as a misunderstanding rather than malice fwiw

I get that my logic will draw votes in my own direction but my logic is sound that I’m potentially reducing the amount of town players that might die - that is one of my reasons for voting BuJ as he seems unwilling to at least acknowledge that is one valid train of thought - I can accept if people don’t want to go with it. The other point is if by making a fuss I have given DH some food for thought overnight tonight then again, we have potentially saved a town life.

Does me dying help DH pick a target tonight? By your logic no, because I’m just VT so it just says I know no more than anyone else.

I guess that is a way to look at it - if we lynch someone we should try and help DH pick a target tonight as he pretty much has to shoot. I guess by that logic Psyko is probably the way to go, given you 2 got into it- although I give it the benefit of the doubt for now, if he flipped scum, I think most people give you a town card, but if he flips town does it cast doubt over your role? I’m not sure

[Mulch]

profi's assumption of Mulch as town, and Mulch's quick vote of Jodax after profi was voted makes me think they could be a scumteam.

I never voted profi. Are you lying?

[TwoInAMillion]

i said you voted jadex affter Bujaber voted proxi, pay attention.

[Gödel]

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Jodaxq(3)

~ rb, Mulch, Hawk

TwoInAMillion(2)

~ Jodaxq, PsykoSavant

profii(2)

~ BuJaber, TwoInAMillion

PsykoSavant(1)

~ Sky_Paladin

Mulch(1)

~ Derpy Hooves

BuJaber(1)

~ profii


Not Voting (1): acryon

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-01-02 21:00:00)

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[Hawk]

profi's assumption of Mulch as town, and Mulch's quick vote of Jodax after profi was voted makes me think they could be a scumteam.

I never voted profi. Are you lying?

You think Mulch and Profi are scum team because mulch is attacking Jodax after Profi gets voted by Bujaber?

[TwoInAMillion]

profi's assumption of Mulch as town, and Mulch's quick vote of Jodax after profi was voted makes me think they could be a scumteam.

I never voted profi. Are you lying?

You think Mulch and Profi are scum team because mulch is attacking Jodax after Profi gets voted by Bujaber?

Possibly.