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Post Post #275  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:22 pm

I'll do a reread, but I want to draw your attention (@Mathdino) that you totally forgot to factor in the town kills (i.e. the vig shots) in your #267 which could swing the balance either way depending on whom they shoot.

But anyway, I'll do the reread with Bins as confirmed scum and see where it gets me.
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Post Post #276  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:25 pm

Quick readslist
(Haven't looked too much into associatives for these yet)

Town
-Math
-Elmo
-Almost (heavy lean)
-Devle (lean)
-Lalendra (more of a lean)

Null
-Maxous (leaning town)
-Chip (leaning scum/sk)

Scum
-sauce (slight lean)
-Fitz (more of a lean)
-NM (very slight townlean based mostly off of meta)
-Bins

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Post Post #277  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:27 pm

In post 272, Lalendra wrote:Considering I was already scumreading Fitz

Please elaborate. Why are you scum reading me?

In post 272, Lalendra wrote:Weird that all three went silent after Math's proclamation (aside from Fitz's single half-hearted retort) but could be coincidence

Do you think people live on this site? smh.... Your shade attempts are laughable.

P.edit...@Raya, love to hear your scum reasoning on me (anyone) too.
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Post Post #278  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:29 pm

Actually just read fitz last post...

VOTE: fitz

I think I want this here for a bit

Pedit: post before his last post

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Post Post #279  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:29 pm

@fitz Will get on that in a few. Gotta go in a bit though so I'm not sure I'll get the post finished

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Post Post #280  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:30 pm

VOTE: Bins

Raya is Bins Partner just fyi

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Post Post #281  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:31 pm

In post 280, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Bins

Raya is Bins Partner just fyi

Why?
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Post Post #282  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:33 pm

In post 274, havingfitz wrote:
In post 269, Mathdino wrote:Thanks for not believing me.

1) I didn't say I didn't believe your claim. FTR I'm inclined to.
2) I'm not going to blindly believe you...I've been burned before.
3) If we do decide to believe you I'd prefer the sure thing for today's lynch and discuss likely associations for vig (and sk?) to act on tonight following a Bins scum flip.

P.edit Lalendra looking worse every post she makes...smh.

1) had a bit of a defensive vibe
2) seems like a bad attempt to resist believing math. What makes you hesitate in believing him?

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Post Post #283  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:34 pm

Don't like the push on lalendra either

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Post Post #284  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:35 pm

Yeah so at least one of {Raya, fitz} is scum for sure.

@N_M: Talk to me about why Raya is Bins's partner based on the last few pages. If anything the last few pages have made me super shaky on that association.

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Post Post #285  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:39 pm

In post 282, Raya36 wrote:1) had a bit of a defensive vibe
2) seems like a bad attempt to resist believing math. What makes you hesitate in believing him?

1) says I'm inclined to believe Math in response to him saying I don't. HTF is that defensive?
2) I said why. I've been burned by jumping to believe claims before. No need to rush a claim reaction yet.

Your posts are bad Raya. Like you're just posting shit for the sake of posting.

P edit...what pish on Lalendra? Not liking her recent posts? Pointing out the flaws in her Sauce accusations? Smh....ok.....
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Post Post #286  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:43 pm

In post 284, Mathdino wrote:Yeah so at least one of {Raya, fitz} is scum for sure.

@N_M: Talk to me about why Raya is Bins's partner based on the last few pages. If anything the last few pages have made me super shaky on that association.


Bins read progression on Raya, is scum-scum, she takes Raya down from town to null/scummish in a few posts, it’s clearly agenda driven and as scum Bins often waffles on reads where she wants room to move on them and call them town or scum depending on the tide of the game, she was setting up a bus on Raya whilst still giving herself room to say loljk Raya’s town if attention moved off her

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Post Post #287  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:47 pm

In post 286, Not_Mafia wrote:Bins read progression on Raya, is scum-scum, she takes Raya down from town to null/scummish in a few posts, it’s clearly agenda driven and as scum Bins often waffles on reads where she wants room to move on them and call them town or scum depending on the tide of the game, she was setting up a bus on Raya whilst still giving herself room to say loljk Raya’s town if attention moved off her

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Post Post #288  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:48 pm

Oh shit, I genuinely thought Bins was townie. Guess I was wrong (obviously).

I made a mental note to myself earlier that I thought bins and sauce seemed friendly. But rereading the parts where they mention each other I have no idea why. Other than that, on gut I would say that from rereading Bins' ISO her potential scum partners are Elmo and maxous.

Btw, we should probably ignore everything bins says now. OFC she's going to try and throw us off and confuse us.

Oh and don't lynch Bins until the end of the day. I would have said to not lynch Bins at all until MyLo but then Fitz reminded me that Bins could be the vig switch. If she is, it would be VERY useful to have her lynched today.
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Post Post #289  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:49 pm

I've significantly warmed up to the idea of Maxous being scum lately.

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Post Post #290  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:56 pm

On Fitz:
-First few posts seemed like busywork/not really posting anything at all
- wasn't bad but it's not like it couldn't have come from scum.
-early townreads on lalendra and math (notice how he's throwing shade on lalendra and doubting math now)
-Tells Chip he could be busier.
-reread; pinged by maxous, starts scumreading math, says some of the stuff chip said was bad, more being pinged by maxous, likes devle, more bad stuff about math while defending bins
-doubting his math read
-asks more questions, defends bins more
-basically the associatives are terrible with bins and math and your reads are jumping all over the place and seem to be forged
-calls NM useless
-when I bring up math's pre-flip associatives you jump all over him for that
-hate the shade and push on lalendra
-the shading/doubt in math's claim was just bad
-already covered the latest couple posts


So yeah, forget what I said earlier about lynching bins. Let's lynch fitz then the vig/sk can shoot bins at night. If that doesn't happen we can lynch bins tomorrow without too much stress.

But to sum this all up // tldr
-Bins is basically confscum - fitz defends her and townreads her the whole game
-Math is basically conftown and is pushing bins - fitz pushes math once he realizes that he is pushing bins hard.
-reads seemed forged and are covered in scum motivation
-seems like everything he's done so far is on an agenda

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Post Post #291  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:05 pm

In post 285, havingfitz wrote:1) says I'm inclined to believe Math in response to him saying I don't. HTF is that defensive?
2) I said why. I've been burned by jumping to believe claims before. No need to rush a claim reaction yet.


1) "I didn't say that" and the "FTR" just made it sound imo. Anyone else getting this vibe too or is it just me?
2 ) We aren't that far from deadline and there's no reason to not believe this. I've thought about it from a few different angles. I can't seen scum making this claim. It seems to me you just don't want us to believe the claim or at the very least you want to stall analysis based on the claim.

Your posts are bad Raya. Like you're just posting shit for the sake of posting.

Nope. This is just you trying to discredit what I'm saying. Nice try.

P edit...what pish on Lalendra? Not liking her recent posts? Pointing out the flaws in her Sauce accusations? Smh....ok.....

is shade being thrown if I've ever seen it.
seems like shading and pushing to me.
Bottom of slight push again and last but not least

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Post Post #292  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:06 pm

*made it sound defensive imo

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Post Post #293  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:06 pm

In post 272, Lalendra wrote:Considering I was already scumreading Fitz and Sauce, I am probably not the best person to answer your question. But I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it.

I would like to lynch confscum (I believe Math's claim and am willing to sheep someone I consider to be reliable town PR), but understand that it would be better to wait and see how much info we can get. Weird that all three went silent after Math's proclamation (aside from Fitz's single half-hearted retort) but could be coincidence. I'm hesitant to say we have it figured out but this is a good start.

tl;dr I'm down with voting Fitz, Sauce or Bins, don't particularly care in what order.

What are you doing? You're just adding me and fitz to Bins and say let's lynch here?

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Post Post #294  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:06 pm

In post 274, havingfitz wrote:P.edit Lalendra looking worse every time she calls me scum...smh.

FTFY

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Post Post #295  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:09 pm

Cardinal information is revealed and Lalendra just goes like meh, I'll add my previously stated scumreads to that and I'm good, derp.

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Post Post #296  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:10 pm

Can someone find out if fitz scumreading everyone who scumreads him is playstyle or a scumtell?

Sauce please reevaluate your entire game trajectory if you're gonna post. Where do you stand now?

I'm actually feeling pretty sold on fitz being scum over Raya.

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Post Post #297  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:13 pm

In post 296, Mathdino wrote:Sauce please reevaluate your entire game trajectory if you're gonna post. Where do you stand now?

I can't right now, reevaluate anything. I just know I wouldn't post like nothing happened to my previous reads if I were Lalendra town.

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Post Post #298  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:15 pm

Maybe she believes your sexism bullshit and doesn't care about the game just lynching the sexist.

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Post Post #299  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:16 pm

I'm not completely sold on Maxous. Can someone explain?

Rn my lynch pool is fitz, bins, sauce, chip and in that order but I'm a little hesitant on sauce and even more on chip. I'm very confident in fitz and bins being scum though.

Also I realize I made a mistake on NM. He should be in between maxous and chip in null.

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