Open 705: Polygamist - Game Over

[sheepsaysmeep]

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[sheepsaysmeep]

pairs:
tor and sheep
mathdina and amrochora
redflavor and manrock

unclaimed:
cytheflyguy
kop
sky
bigfin
diamon
lalendra

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

cytheflyguy (2) - sheepsaysmeep, Mathdino
Mathdino (1) - Sky_Paladin

Not Voting (9) - cytheflyguy, Kop, RedFlavor, BigFinn, DiamondSentinel, manrock, Amrochora, Toranaga, Lalendra

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline for day one is January 25th 7PM PST in (expired on 2018-01-25 19:00:00)

[cytheflyguy]

So since we seem to be in agreement that Tora/sheep are town, and given that sheep voted completely arbitrarily (on someone who hasn't even posted yet), I unironically think cy should be our lynch today. Since there's no nighttime I would even be good with a speedlynch here (long days are anti-town).

Cuz fuck playing for fun, I play to win.

LOL. Every game I'm in,

someone

wants me to die day 1, and several times they almost get their wish, but as of yet, I've never died D1. Let's not start now

PS my lover is Lalendra.

[cytheflyguy]

Also I'm against the dice strategy. What's the point in playing mafia if there's no challenge? If it's all up to chance why are we talking at all? It really takes the heart away from the game. I won't replace out, but I don't think it's the path we should go down.

[manrock]

hey guys whats up

[Mathdino]

Not my fault the setup isn't great and makes dicelynching ideal xD

I see no reason to shy away from the arbitrarily lynching cytheflyguy/Lalendra strategy.

@cytheflyguy:

What did you and Lalendra talk about last night?
Same question goes to

@manrock

.

[sheepsaysmeep]

mathdino isnt towny by posting, but statistically dicelynching is beneficial to town and he seems to genuinely think that and want to do it

[manrock]

Not my fault the setup isn't great and makes dicelynching ideal xD

I see no reason to shy away from the arbitrarily lynching cytheflyguy/Lalendra strategy.

@cytheflyguy:

What did you and Lalendra talk about last night?
Same question goes to

@manrock

.

I promised red to be active, but the game started around new years eve for me

anyways I am here for a bit and aiming for 100 posts this game

[manrock]

mathdino isnt towny by posting, but statistically dicelynching is beneficial to town and he seems to genuinely think that and want to do it

hey sheepsaysmeep i just want to mention that we play mafia and not the lottery

[manrock]

is anything going to happen? still tired so I'll go to bed and wake up later

[sheepsaysmeep]

Also I'm against the dice strategy. What's the point in playing mafia if there's no challenge? If it's all up to chance why are we talking at all? It really takes the heart away from the game. I won't replace out, but I don't think it's the path we should go down.

+1

[manrock]

Outside of that how does letting it rand actually help town? Seems more like a problem with the players actually being unable to catch scum instead of randomizing lynches making sense

[Mathdino]

is anything going to happen? still tired so I'll go to bed and wake up later

Things might happen if you lay down a vote, buddy.

Vote cy, sheep the obvtownbloc.

[manrock]

is anything going to happen? still tired so I'll go to bed and wake up later

Things might happen if you lay down a vote, buddy.

Vote cy, sheep the obvtownbloc.

things might happen, if instead of randomizing lynches you guys finally start scumhunting

[sheepsaysmeep]

o u c h

[sheepsaysmeep]

y o u c a n t o o ?

[Mathdino]

Outside of that how does letting it rand actually help town? Seems more like a problem with the players actually being unable to catch scum instead of randomizing lynches making sense

I plagiarised from the wiki and checked the Math myself (along with the Math on a few scenarios).

Like I said. Most open setups are BENEFITED from non-random lynching. Strategy/scumhunting is easier when town is given multiple lynches and mafia comprises 22% or 23% of the town. Mafia can't drive mislynches over and over because that puts them in a shitty situation in LyLo.

In this setup, mafia is 33% of the town and we can literally only mislynch twice. Mafia has no need to set themselves up for a good lategame. They ONLY need to drive 2 mislynches. Given that most early lynches are on town, AND that mafia has the opportunity to influence the vote, the dice roller is likely to be better at catching scum than the 12 of us.

THAT SAID, the 8 of us who are actually town are likely to be collectively better at catching scum than the dice roller. The problem is we don't have a reliable way of filtering out the scum agenda.

That's why my counterproposal is to just pick someone we think is town and sheep them on some arbitrary wagon. This bumps up our chances considerably because it has a massive chance of filtering out the scum agenda.

So sheep sheep.

[Mathdino]

Tor/sheep and redflavor/manrock are all probably town. I thought I said that already.

You don't need to scumhunt if you can townhunt well. I know I'm way better at townhunting.

cytheflyguy/Lalendra then have a 2/3 chance of being scum. cy has done nothing to indicate townishness to me so I'm pretty comfortable parking here.

Do you have any reads beyond complaining about setup-breaking?

[sheepsaysmeep]

spice

dice lynch count

ay (1) - dino
nay (everyone)

dice lynching is no fun
i can find scum
also @math
why is man/red town, and are you rlly that confident in your read on tor/me

[Mathdino]

I don't have a read on you. Toranaga towned it all the way up with that entrance.

manrock/Red have consistent interpretations of their lover PT. Honestly I just straight up believe them.

Also I'm not dice lynching
I'm just arbitrarily lynching someone you picked who's in neither my nor your lover PT who hasn't posted yet

[sheepsaysmeep]

anyhow
im starting to lose my town feel on mathdino
feels like scum trying to power himself to town leader or smth

pedit not reading that b4 i press submit

[sheepsaysmeep]

manrock/Red have consistent interpretations of their lover PT. Honestly I just straight up believe them.

have you ever considered that red might have read the thread
it's usually not this easy?

[Mathdino]

You had a townread on me in the first place? Have I actually said something alignment indicative already?

My whole thing in the open queue is:
1. Hyperposting
2. Setup-breaking

I happen to have the luck of consistently rolling town in the open games that are breakable (speaking for completed games ofc). So far there hasn't actually been any risk to myself of doing that all the time. I guess I could tell you that as scum I would just not setup-break but that would be WIFOMy as shit. I think the one time I did roll scum I pretended to try to setup-break that ultimately was useless because I PR-hunted every single PR at night and shot them before they could do shit.

Regardless, this strategy does objectively work, and I knew that when the setup showed up in the queue. It's part of why I didn't /in in the first place. I'm good if you guys don't want to dice lynch but if not that I'm going to substitute with some kind of reasonable alternative/effective substitute. Like sheeping your team.

Edit: Long deadlines/long conversations hurt town. I have EXTREMELY little confidence in my scumhunting abilities in this setup in particular. Ask me why if you're interested.

[sheepsaysmeep]

tone is ai