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ZombieSlayer: Random voting early game is the norm on this site as it sparks discussion in a way that does not leave role based info and can leave tidbits to look back on late game as early game random voting is influenced by personal biases often.
However, my vote is mildly serious at this point.
Vote UA
Self voting in the random voting stage
A) prevents the creation of the small tidbits I described. Such a cop out.
B) is a dumb waste. If you are pro-town, why would you vote for a confirmed townie?Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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I endorse this post.Kison wrote:Greasy Spot wrote:HAHA...Don't get your panties in a bunch just yet. You pikmins are way too uptight. No wonder mod called you stupid.
Explain the contradiction I'm seeing here, please.Greasy Spot wrote:No I'm a pikmin alright, just not a stupid pikmin like the mod called you all.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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There's not really reason to debate this in thread, but if you look back at the Mafia Discussion forum you will be able to find arguments showing why random voting is pro-town which also show why not doing it and self voting are anti town. They only apply to early game when there's no real reasons to vote though.ZombieSlayer54 wrote:[
It still gets me suspicious, even if it is self-voting.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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Errr, EBWODP, didn't realize CotI was still ongoing. Sorry. All the things I referenced in that game are about dead players, but if the mod feels the example shouldn't be discussed, feel free edit it out.
To summarize, Muffin was new, did the same "Don't want to vote, ok wagon time" and turned up scum.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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Current thoughts:
Just voting a bunch of people is not a good idea as it allows multiple band wagons simultaneously to grow quickly and potentially end up as "Oops lynch", as opposed to just one. Also probably will divide attention among players who are under the spotlight rather than letting us go case by case.
Jdodge's contradiction yesterday was odd, though I have to look a bit harder to see if it was him being him or him covering his ass.
I've come to realize since yesterday GS is just going to be dumb every game. Just trying to work out which kinds of dumb are scummy for him
I do not like Gorrad's last two posts, just slipping in an opportunistic vote after a (semi-valid) OMGUS. I'm putting Jdodge on being Dodge on the unexplained multivotes for now, though, you know, real cases help too.
The other 3 multivoters (UROE, Kirby, and Kison) all gave enough reasoning for their votes for me to consider them valid and not possibly just abusing the multivoting capacity.
So,Vote Gorrad, thinking more tomorrow when I wake up.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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K. Just double checking you in case you decided to say somethingdumb in response.Greasy Spot wrote:
If I would have said "the pikmin" you would have pounced on that saying if I was a pikmin I would have included myself. Semantics is grasping at straws unless it's an obvious slip up, not something you have to convince people to see.hasdgfas wrote:
Kinda what armlx just said, but I find it odd that he has to emphasize for US pikmin.Greasy Spot wrote:No, I don't support my lynch. For the last time there was no hasty demise. Zombie had votes for a long time. It wasn't like they were all placed on him in a 12 hour span and I just waltzed in for the hammer. His deathwas a tragic loss for us pikminbut was a necessary evil for the game. The only time we learn who someone really is is when they die. Tragically he was a pikmin. You've stated your dislike for Jdodge for a while now but it seems like your on me because your an opportunist.
Minor FOS haskadfhkdafor jumping onto the reasoning. Would have been a full FOS if he was here for D1.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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If he hadn't we wouldn't, but its clear from his response its just him reacting in a normal way to the issue on day 1.Blazerunner wrote:Yeah, Greasy Spot has gained some trust points by me after all. Im not sure if hasdgfas was intentionally trying to frame him, but his defense is right. If he hadn't explicitely included himself in the group of pikmin, people would say "hey, so you are not a pikmin". Now that he hasn't, people say "Hey, look how he wants to make sure he is a pikmim".
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While this is right, its ironic you would be the one to say it. xd's play has been.... lacking to say the least this game, though if my IRC experience is worth anything its a town tell from him.JDodge wrote: On another note,vote: Xdaamnofor not taking votes seriously enough today.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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It doesn't meet my pro-town expectations. Saying that is hardly snobbish....windkirby wrote:
Nice show of snobbery, but I'm not going to move my vote just because it doesn't meet your "expectations." Besides, the slip is hardly the main reason I want GS lynched; just because I pointed out that the "you people" argument is crap, it doesn't imply that the "you pikmin" slip is the primary factor in my mind.armlx wrote:I'm very unimpressed with the continued pressing of the slip. It was worth pointing out and seeing if he would explode under pressure, but he didn't and I would expect pro-town players to have moved on by now.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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2nd this post, but I don't really think his lack of voting is a tell either way.hasdgfas wrote:
But voting is pretty much the only thing that townies have to help find scum, so use it.Greasy Spot wrote:
I already said I thought Pyrodwarf was scummy and why. Besides I don't have to have my name besides a lot of peoples name to feel good about my decisions.Claus wrote:Is there any reason you're not voting anyone, GS?Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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Again, I understand and agree.hasdgfas wrote:
I wasn't saying it was, but it's not helping him in any way.armlx wrote:
2nd this post, but I don't really think his lack of voting is a tell either way.hasdgfas wrote:
But voting is pretty much the only thing that townies have to help find scum, so use it.Greasy Spot wrote:
I already said I thought Pyrodwarf was scummy and why. Besides I don't have to have my name besides a lot of peoples name to feel good about my decisions.Claus wrote:Is there any reason you're not voting anyone, GS?Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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Confirmable claim, I'llUnvote. Unless someone familiar with Pikmin is fairly sure that a Bombrock kill would look the same as either of the MO's we've seen, Gorrad, kill someone tonight, presumably there will be more kills and/or the MO should differ from those we have seen and we will be able to tell you did it.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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Edit: Mod does not like quote pyramids.
Hardly. It just seems with your view on JtP has changed in connection with his views on you and Kison. And I thought you were pushing a Kison lynch? Your post earlier seemed to. I guess your point is if you were being biased you would be pushing harder?Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st- armlx
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I don't see your point. I'm not denying his voting practices were questionable at times, but what does this have to do with you?Kison wrote:I find it hilarious that you have the nerve to call me opportunistic considering JDodge was on seven people(BEFORE he unvoted some) at the end of yesterday.
You continuing to do so was opportunism.In any event you really need to do your homework. First is that JDodge voted me because he disliked how I went after GS for his slip(again, no vote involved but rather the typical loving pressure you apply when someone potentially makes a slip that you can explain both ways).
And both happened in response to building pressure on that person and you kept attacking both for an easy lynch. That is the definition of opportunismSecondly, JtP voted me for my D1 "opportunism." There was no opportunism in any of my Day One votes. Again, my first two votes were random :
Kison wrote:Vote : Greasy Spot
Both placed on the same day. I just swapped them around, and neither lasted very long.Kison wrote:Unvote
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My vote on JtP yesterday had little to do with his view on you and more how he just hopped on the Jdodge wagon.Kison wrote:armlx wrote:That is definitely worth my second vote.
Vote James the Phoxarmlx wrote:Just wondering, is there any specific reason you are hesitating on JtP?
What triggered this change of heart? Youarmlx wrote:I feel you are letting your view on Kison bias your view on JtP too much.decided you are going to agree with the exact same thing you voted JtF for?just nowAway Wednesday the 24th through the 31st - armlx
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