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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:21 pm

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In post 3, Assemblerotws wrote:
Rule 5 has been edited. "Bah" posts are no longer allowed.
I think BAHs are over-appreciated anyway..! :]

Baths on the other hand.. :roll:
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Post Post #18 (isolation #1) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:51 pm

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In post 17, WhyMafia wrote:Hard claiming that I will be confirmed town tomorrow
So what you meant to say was that "it will be hard claiming I will be confirmed town tomorrow"?

So what you meant to say was that you are...Mafia?
Out of all the factions, whymafia?
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Post Post #23 (isolation #2) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:08 pm

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No need to be a dick about it.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #3) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:13 pm

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In post 24, Espeonage wrote:Sorry, did the jovial not come through?

Apologies
I got your joke, it was just me going for a pun according to the theme.. :roll:

I think I'm the one being a jerk on this magical journey..but it's all about my inner struggles.
It's all about what switches you turn on, or off.
We should all thrive to turn our inner try hard on, and jerk off. :]
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Post Post #32 (isolation #4) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:18 pm

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In post 28, Flavor Leaf wrote:Something about these rules, role pm templates, and layout of thread seems familiar to me, but I can’t put my finger on it...
I remember when I first played with you and had no idea who you were.. :lol:

I chuckled a bit when I found out you were actually Nero Cains alt, Shiny Sheepbells.
Oh, the memories. :]
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Post Post #37 (isolation #5) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:47 pm

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In post 33, Something_Smart wrote:Una hangs day one for those terrible puns. :wink:
Only if you have the balls to hang!
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Post Post #38 (isolation #6) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:51 pm

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In post 36, Flavor Leaf wrote:Oh, maybe I didn’t get the joke.
OK, this killed the mood for me. :yawn:
In post 4, UnaBombaH wrote:Baths on the other hand.. :roll:
I'll stop spamming now, you'll find me the tub when we can get to playing.
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Post Post #70 (isolation #7) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:24 am

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In post 69, Archwing wrote:
In post 68, JaydragonKing wrote:VOTE: Archwing because he is disrupting the peaceful nature of Pen Island as well as going after my second in command.

Into the Volcano with you!
A thousand apologies, your majesty. Please accept this as a token of my appreciation.
UNVOTE:
Shifty waffle and a hefty shuffle.. VOTE: Archwing
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Post Post #71 (isolation #8) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:28 am

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In post 54, Espeonage wrote:I'm not a vanilla townie.

I have so far softclaimed three times and two alignments.
This post pinged me.

Why do you feel the need to make it so stupidly obvious that you have claimed? :?

You also followed up on your first softing with a "Discuss.", meaning that you want to see peoples reaction to it, but by begging for it (and by being so very noisy about it) you won't get many genuine reactions.
I'd say you are not an investigative role, but more along the lines of IC/mason or BP/commuter.

Comment? :]
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Post Post #77 (isolation #9) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:23 am

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In post 73, Archwing wrote:I feel like Espeon has been shitposting to basically end RVS before it starts. Which is meh. I think that's kind of clear. I think your digging into it is interesting though.
You can nitpick anything if you want to.

Sometimes that unlocks conversation.

I don't think Esp was necessarily "shitposting", even if his claim might not have been 100% truthful :]
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Post Post #224 (isolation #10) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:28 pm

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...I was sleeping guys.
Seriously, not mafia! :o
No, not with the pitchforks! :dead:

Will do a proper catchup in ~3hours.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #11) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:32 pm

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Archwing and Elsa are the "easy" scumreads so far.
I'll give a little wiggle room for both of them seemingly being new (Elsa I have seen once on site before), but it's sometimes hard to separate newb!scum from newb!town.
Both have raised suspicion, and are good wagons for now though - they will have to try and be straightforward from here on out.

Esp. strikes me as overly confident, which is totally NAI, but he makes it almost 100% certain he will be in a central role.
That is why I nitpicked his softing early: that post made me feel like he knew his playstyle will place him in the spotlight no matter what, and he used that post as a "buffer" of sorts.

FlavorLeaf is acting a bit chirpy, and I don't think thats necessarily characteristic for him.. :shifty:
I've heard the term "BoonBabe" before, and while I'm legit happy to be a part of any "circle" here ( :oops: :oops: ), I think he brought it to the front with such enthusiasm, that it pinged me.
I think Dunker was able to notice the same, which lends a slight townlean on him for now.
In post 95, WhyMafia wrote:Una why do I already SR you.
Fun fact: WhyMafia scumreads me 10/10 times when I'm town. :lol:
Last time I said this was in Boons recent large:
In post 317, UnaBombaH wrote:WhyMafia is scum if he DOESN'T scumread me, and I don't scumread him. If we scumread each other, I can be fairly certain he is town too :lol:
What I know better now though, is that WhyMafia was scum in that game, so all you get out of his scumread on me, is that I am now confirmed town! All rejoice! :lol:
In all seriousness though, a slight townlean on WhyMafia here.

Chill is always null for me, because he doesn't spam the thread, and I'm bad at this game. Not sure if he has ever flipped scum "under my watch" either.
His first posts are ok though.

LUV seems townie alright, but I think his activity will actually be AI in the end.
I have a feeling he tends to lose interest towards the end as town, but I might be

No reads on Something_Smart, PeregrineV or Aristophanes yet.

Quick is sort of becoming my strongest tonwread at the moment, and has also been one of the more active posters so far. I love it.
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Post Post #227 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:35 pm

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In post 226, UnaBombaH wrote:LUV seems townie alright, but I think his activity will actually be AI in the end.
I have a feeling he tends to lose interest towards the end as town, but I might be
..assuming too much with how little I have actually seen him. (<--was deleted at some point when writing)
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Post Post #229 (isolation #13) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:04 am

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Re-read the first pages and I heavily dislike this:
In post 73, Archwing wrote:I feel like Espeon has been shitposting to basically end RVS before it starts. Which is meh. I think that's kind of clear. I think your digging into it is interesting though.
INTO
In post 74, JaydragonKing wrote:Don't mind Una. This is our second game together, and I was only with him for a day before he was lynched, but He's always suspicious of others with Pokemon icons.
These are so far two of the "scummiest" players interacting with each other, and neither is being accurate with their analysis in these posts (I think).
While Elsa was apparently(?) joking about me, her post gives off the vibe that she is trying to either pocket me, or give off the vibe that I somehow know her.
I've seen her once in a game before, and even that was very brief with next to no interaction between us.. :?
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Post Post #233 (isolation #14) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:11 am

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In post 230, Espeonage wrote:Kinda worried that it's going to be the designated mislynch is all. It just seems too easy.
This is why I talked about "easy scumreads".
I think every game has a few, and the easyness of a read is not AI in itself, BUT I sort of dislike defaulting to those D1.
Simply because I feel like town often loses a lot of content that could be pried from lurkers/secondary scumreads if we were to wagon elsewhere.

That said, I wont lose my sleep if we lynch in Arch/Elsa.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #15) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:13 am

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In post 231, Espeonage wrote:I am a miller

I do not want to be around at lylo. I want to be either Vig killed N2-N4 or lynched day 2 or 3. We should not decide which. UNLESS people deign to keep me alive which I really kinda don't want for wifom. But I have a sneaky suspicion that experienced mafia will be trying to buddy me and keep me around idk.

I don't want my alignment to get in the way. I would like people to assume I am town now, flip me later. And actually pay attention.

I do want people to question my reads and rip my cases to shreds
I don't want people to waste time trying to push a lynch through on me before I feel solid on a last will and testament which will not be today

Can we all agree to this?
I can respect this.
I wouldn't put it past an experienced player to gambit with this, but I feel like this is the right way to play miller. :]
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Post Post #448 (isolation #16) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:44 pm

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It's finnish independence day (100 years!!), so I'll be off until tomorrow.
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Post Post #518 (isolation #17) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:40 am

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Been a busy day at work after the holiday, but I'll try to find the time and energy to go in-depth about my reads tonight/tomorrow.
I think I have an even better idea now than I did a few pages ago.
But from the top of my head, without re-checking or quoting:

*Esp-Flavor interaction felt weirdish. I think someone already mentioned this, but this could've been anything from TvT-SvT-TvS to SvS-theatre.
It was sort of a chore to read through (because of the parallel arguments and quoting), but I think everyone should return to those pages once either of them flips.
And speaking of Esp. flipping..

*I for one think Esp. should not be todays lynch.

Not today, and I might add that as likely as soon as tomorrow yes.
I will go more in depth on why I don't think he is scum later, but I still agree that we shouldn't keep him along 'till LyLo.

*If my read on town!Esp. is accurate, then
Someone heavily advocating to lynch Esp. today is likely scum

Think of it: a "free" mislynch to push for scum D1.
From scums perspective there's no question he is town (SK wouldn't claim Miller in fear of rolecop/gunsmith, right?), but they don't have to fabricate read-reasons for the lynch.
They can just hide behind the fact that "you always lynch a "guilty" ", and leave no easy trail from D1.
From the amount of players that I have seen getting caught because of interactions and pushes D1, when analyzed on later days, I'd say this is the #1 reason I actually
dislike
the Miller-claim now. (initially I appreciated it)
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Post Post #535 (isolation #18) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:28 am

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In post 524, UC Voyager wrote:My point is that I doubt that this is a multiball. We should assume it isn't because
1. this is a mini as LUV said
2. multiball is unbalanced and not fun
3. that would suck
I love how only 1. has anything to do with reasons why we should assume this isn't multiball! :lol:
2. and 3. have no bearing on what setup we are currently playing.. :]
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Post Post #536 (isolation #19) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:32 am

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In post 529, Something_Smart wrote:Actually, I disagree. I think that a better conclusion is that someone defending him is likely scum. I think scum would try to avoid being at the forefront of a miller push; they'd try to hide in the background and look like they were just following and it wasn't their fault.
Yeah, well.. I meant more along the lines of "advocating a lynch because of the miller-claim". That way they don't need to commit to a read, and can remain vague in their stances..

I do however townread you for having opposing opinions and actually bringing them up. :]
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Post Post #540 (isolation #20) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:43 am

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In post 533, Tchill13 wrote:Nobody has taken a hard stance on the matter since I asked. So I'll politely ask again that yall do.
I think I see your pov on this subject.
You are "worried" (=don't want to risk) that on a later day we are in a situation where we are still to lynch Esp., but we are getting spread thin and stronger scumreads come and go.
Like, you are afraid that future shenanigans will always re-direct the game and bounce us around from "certain lynch" to another? :] (because that is how games often go when a skilled scum is holding the reigns)
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Post Post #543 (isolation #21) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:48 am

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I'm not sure how to communicate this to everyone, but I sort of..know..we shouldn't lynch Esp D1.

I do not claim power (yet), but I just feel like it's obvious.. :lol:
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Post Post #548 (isolation #22) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:52 am

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I'll throw you guys a bone: the name of the game.. ;)
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Post Post #550 (isolation #23) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:54 am

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In post 546, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 543, UnaBombaH wrote:I'm not sure how to communicate this to everyone, but I sort of..know..we shouldn't lynch Esp D1.

I do not claim power (yet), but I just feel like it's obvious.. :lol:
You shouldn't have said this. It's looking like I'm not gonna have my way and Lynch espionage anyways. He's in no danger yet.
I think you misunderstood me..
But if that made scum think they hit power by nightkill in me, they waste their shot. :]
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Post Post #552 (isolation #24) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:57 am

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Also, just in case going to throw it out here in straightforward words: Esp. can be scum - no doubt about it.
He just shouldn't be killed today.
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Post Post #556 (isolation #25) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:01 am

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In post 551, Tchill13 wrote:Who do you think should be the Lynch una and why?
I'll give you the name tonight.
But for now I am fairly certain we can find one scum in Arch/Jay/Quick.

Quick somehow managed to make an impression on me at first, not sure how.
That impression is all but gone, and I wonder why.. :igmeou:
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Post Post #561 (isolation #26) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:25 am

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Guyssss...the way you talk only to each other makes me sad.. :( I already told how I feel about lynching Esp. tonight.
I just don't want to become an outsider.. :cry:
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Post Post #562 (isolation #27) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:26 am

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In post 553, Something_Smart wrote:I think Una is saying that he thinks somebody ELSE is a role that could corroborate Espe.
Yes, I think you know who I'm talking about.
Leave it at that.
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Post Post #577 (isolation #28) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:22 am

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Are you here Leaf? Ama.
Then I need to go to bed, or my wife makes the first nightkill.. O_O
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Post Post #580 (isolation #29) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:03 pm

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In post 578, JaydragonKing wrote:Half of you calling me Jay and the other half calling me Elsa. Fun times.
I try to make the effort of calling people what they prefer to be called, if it's rememberable and reasonable.
Otherwise I use nicknames or shorthands until they ask me to stop. :]
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Post Post #581 (isolation #30) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:04 pm

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I need to sleep now Boon, ttyl :]
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Post Post #618 (isolation #31) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:22 pm

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In post 616, Tchill13 wrote:Also look at how difficult that Miller Lynch was. So many ppl against it. Makes you wonder.
Esp. has two guaranteed votes in the future, don't worry about it anymore :]
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Post Post #619 (isolation #32) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:26 pm

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Aris catchup was..almost getting close to being adequate.
I can understand IRL-busyness and distractions better than most, but when you have time write a proper entry, it shouldn't look like that... :facepalm:

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Post Post #621 (isolation #33) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:10 am

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[FLUFF]
In post 604, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 224, UnaBombaH wrote:...I was sleeping guys.
Seriously, not mafia! :o
No, not with the pitchforks! :dead:

Will do a proper catchup in ~3hours.
I lol'd :P
Regarding this post btw - I woke up after drinking the night before, and my thoughts (and dreams) were still on the discussion topics of the previous day.
We had discussed "cinematic universes" and agreed on how lame the idea of The Universals Dark Universe -Cinematic Universe is.. :facepalm:
The whole idea of bringing monster stories of the old to modern day enviroments.. We thought they might actually make good movies if we still had people with pitchforks running after the monsters in the end. :lol:

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Post Post #622 (isolation #34) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:16 am

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@UCV, want to give your stance on anyone else, other than Arch?
I get the feel that you just decided to votepark on him once you joined the game.

Now obviously that could be anything from laziness (he is one of the "easiest" scumreads like said before), to just you being scum yourself, but I'd like to hear your stance on some other slots too.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #35) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:26 am

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@Boon - do you "accept" or agree to Esp.'s analysis on your interaction with him?
In post 521, Espeonage wrote:In regards to my interactions with Flavour. I stopped scumreading him pretty quickly in to it.

And started townreading him with the easy transition in tone which he realised my grilling was over.

We talked ourselves in a corner so it may have been relief so it's not a hard townread, but a town lean.
..and what on earth was this about:
In post 575, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 553, Something_Smart wrote:I think Una is saying that he thinks somebody ELSE is a role that could corroborate Espe.
I think this is why Una is pinging me, mixed in with general thought process. It’s exactly what I did when you claimed miller. However, that’s not necessarily scummy in practice.

I’m scum leaning you Una. Talk to me.
..because this was pinging my scumradar.
You are one of the better players on site who I have crossed paths with, and I think you if anyone should be able to read me.
I'm still to play "actual scum" in a game with you, but I have seen your town- and scum-plays. As Flavor Leaf, Boon and other alts.
You were even able to read me "correctly" or at least better than most in that stupid large I was a Traitor in.
Everyone else (who had played with me) was almost ready to townbin me D1, except for you.
So you misreading me or my intentions here worries me.

My previous posting with chill should be a very familiar concept from me, and you not catching on to it means that either you haven't read my posts, or you are scum :]
In other words - you should be above scumreading me this game. :lol:
(I'll be my usual lynchbaity self when people stop providing content and I get bored and start to force it)
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Post Post #740 (isolation #36) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:59 am

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No S_S, you don't even get to be pissed.
I however, am just fcking mad.
I go to sleep and wake to a lynch that shouldn't have happened.

I explicitly told that I knew he was a Miller - and yet people never bothered to give me a chance to explain myself before hammering him at the end of the day.


I admit, I had my own reasons why I didn't want him to be lynched before D2/D3..and I'm so pissed I almost feel like not sharing at this point anymore.

I want one of quick/chill lynched today, I can come up with reasons if need be, but let's not fastlynch yet. (hence no vote)
I feel like chill has a good probability of flipping scum because he focused all of his D1 on Miller-talk.

Oh, and something sort of important to add, thanks to the committee and the Esp. lynch..
I am now a Miller too.

Thanks. :facepalm:
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Post Post #741 (isolation #37) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:00 am

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WhyMafia probably crumbed who he was going to check btw, we likely have a scum there.

I'm just too annoyed to check right now.
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Post Post #744 (isolation #38) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:08 am

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In post 677, WhyMafia wrote:Tchill ...
I town read you? Your play compared to Quick has a sharp contrast.
..and within a minute this:
In post 678, WhyMafia wrote:Additionally, I will be confirmed town tomorrow and I've been busy
I'd say this almost certainly means he "checked" Tchill. :facepalm:
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Post Post #747 (isolation #39) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:11 am

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In post 743, JaydragonKing wrote:I'm also guessing by his tone that UnaBombaH claims Backup turned Miller.
It doesn't matter what I claim yet, but I am a Miller now.
You can go read my ISO, and realize that I made it very clear too.
The only good thing about this is that I can confirm myself as town if need be, so scum have to waste a NK on a low-level player like me.
I'm still legit pissed - been raging at this situation ever since I woke up to find the lynch had occured.. :yawn:
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Post Post #748 (isolation #40) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:14 am

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In post 745, Something_Smart wrote:Betting on this because I don't think a big targets either one of them and I don't think WhyMafia's role exists if it's multiball or there's an SK.

Based on WhyMafia's ISO, I'm gonna be pissed if he didn't target Tchill.
This is my thoughts 10/10, would not write again.

You can be townbinned from here on out Smart, I don't care.
So we lynch Tchill today, and then we are back to square one because D1 was all about the miller-talk and such?

How did people actually fall into that wagon after all? :facepalm:

I'm most worried about Boon being scum, he can take the ball at this point and just run with it.
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Post Post #750 (isolation #41) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:20 am

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So, tell me then, do you lynch a claimed Miller D2 too? :]

Because (just in case someone misses my first)
I hardclaim Miller
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Post Post #755 (isolation #42) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:34 am

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I want to hear from Boon, and I don't want to see a quicklynch today.
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Post Post #791 (isolation #43) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:52 am

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In post 789, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m going to look into Una’s posts to see if he started crumbing before or after the miller claim.
You know I did. ;)
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Post Post #824 (isolation #44) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:52 am

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I wish you and your family well UCV! :]
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Post Post #826 (isolation #45) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:01 am

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Yeah, I'm gonna need a full claim from Boon.
My role pm makes being miller in this game very specific, and I mod -confirmed certain things during night, so..
I go to sleep now and assume I wake to an accurate Boon claim. :]
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Post Post #830 (isolation #46) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:09 am

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In post 796, Flavor Leaf wrote:You and Transcend both claiming scum as VT’s, in a game that only had 4 VT’s might I add, was probably the best thing to ever happen in any of my games.
To add: his claim was logically flawed while mine wasn't.
Also if my claim would've been the only one I think both scum teams would've piled on me, which was the aim.. ;)
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Post Post #832 (isolation #47) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:11 am

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In post 744, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 677, WhyMafia wrote:Tchill ...
I town read you? Your play compared to Quick has a sharp contrast.
..and within a minute this:
In post 678, WhyMafia wrote:Additionally, I will be confirmed town tomorrow and I've been busy
I'd say this almost certainly means he "checked" Tchill. :facepalm:
@Elsa, @Chill - notice this, please.
He added the last part within a minute from the first.
Read it with that context, and you have a crumb.
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Post Post #838 (isolation #48) » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:18 am

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Guess I'll leave it be for now then.
I go to sleep now - I think I have 2 scum pinned down.

Also Boon, don't quote my crumbs, scum will be too lazy to dig them up. :]
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Post Post #892 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:59 am

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In post 881, Flavor Leaf wrote:My votes essentially on Tchill. Trying out the Derpy strategy and not voting often. I’ll probably throw my vote down more than he does, though.
I think we should stall this day for a while.
D1 was revolving too much around the Miller-claim, and I don't want this day to revolve around stuff like that anymore.

I still feel comfortable with our chances this game, but I fear that a mislynch today, especially if we don't get the discussion rolling, could be disastrous.
That is also why I will TRY my hardest to not only tunnel on Chill today, although I feel he is the safest lynch.
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Post Post #920 (isolation #50) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:58 am

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In post 910, Quick wrote:Whoever said we are not in a bad spot unless we get another mislynch doesn't know what they are talking about.
Hmh, so you disagree with my opinion that we sort of need to lynch scum today?
In post 910, Quick wrote:A Scum lynch can help turn things around, but if we lose another 2 more Town by next game day Town is in a really bad spot rn.
...so...you agree with me?

Guys, we need to lynch Chill, Quick!
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Post Post #937 (isolation #51) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:12 pm

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In post 935, JaydragonKing wrote:But what rubs me the wrong way is your the one who started the conversation on why Tchill is scum, yet go for Ari, who is literally on the opposite side of the spectrum in comparison.
Astute observation..
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Post Post #1001 (isolation #52) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:03 pm

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Ok, Ari is full of shit.
He didn't get blessed.

So it's likely Ari+Chill+Boon - Boon believing that claim is sketchy af.
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #53) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:05 pm

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The most inactive, last to claim, magically happens to be blessed.
People are too willing to accept that claim, especially since WhyMafia was killed.
LUV was targeted for a reason, probably because scum read him as a PR. (might be partially my fault, I hinted at knowing who might be an investigative)

I think WhyMafia is a good logical player. With a role like his, he would never not crumb.
If he had no chance to crumb, he would target a slot that could be deduced - basically his strongest townread/scumread, or the last player he mentions.
Not just randomly Ari.
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Post Post #1004 (isolation #54) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:15 pm

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THIS..
In post 677, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 675, Tchill13 wrote:I never argue to argue with one person. I argue for others to clearly understand my position on a matter. If we don't Lynch the Miller claim on day 1 we start this game off on the wrong foot. My intention was never to convince those who have already made up there mind. It's to convince those who haven't posted or didn't partake. Whymafia you haven't scum hunted at all. When you point one finger there's four pointing back at you.
Tchill ...
I town read you? Your play compared to Quick has a sharp contrast.
..makes sense as a crumb, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WAS FOLLOWED UP WITH THIS..
In post 678, WhyMafia wrote:Additionally, I will be confirmed town tomorrow and I've been busy
..WITHIN A MINUTE.

These were also his last posts, and he mentions being busy - he probably expected a chance for the day to end while he was away.
I know I'm repeating myself with this quote, but I refuse to let this go.
WhyMafia played his role right, but his read on Chill was flawed - let's make it right by lynching the scum.

VOTE: Chill
Voteparked - not gonna move today.
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #55) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:41 pm

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And EVEN further - WhyMafia knew the risk he might die.
Why would he ever check someone who is completely null/scumread to him without almost explicitly stating it? :lol:
Just to risk dying for nothing? :facepalm:

So I stick with my deduction that WhyMafia checked Chill and died for it.
Therefore Ari fakeclaimed, and has no reason to do so as town, so he is scum too.
I assume three scum makes sense as the size for their team(?), and on that slot I have nothing certain, however..

Boon just accepting this claim from Ari pings me very hard.
He played a very similar role in a recent large - he was a weak JK. (weak=dies if targets opposing alignment)
This turned a jailkeeper essentially into an investigative, and meant that when Boon died as a third death for a single night, we should look for crumbs on who he investigated.
(he had gone forward and made a neat little poem and all, but crumbed nonetheless)

If I remember correctly, he hadn't crumbed his whole "check list" before D2, but he definitely should've.
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #56) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:30 pm

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The thing is, he deemed it necessary to say that he townreads you before the days end.
Him checking you after that makes a ton of sense, especially since you were the driving force behind the lynch yesterday (no matter if your gametheory was good).
It would make sense to me for WhyMafia to want conf!town you and him at the same time.
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #57) » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:32 pm

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In post 1006, Tchill13 wrote:Una has dug into what could possibly be the easiest but flawed argument to make.
This is something you have to say as either alignment I guess.
I have such a strong feeling of being right, that if I end up being wrong about his night-action, I'll become a votebot for my highest townread and stop trying to gamesolve.
That is how confident I feel.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #58) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:08 am

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In post 1018, Flavor Leaf wrote:Jay, Dunker, and then whichever one of Unah/Tchill.
I shouldn't be on this list, my actions D1+my crumbs all support my claim.
In post 1016, Flavor Leaf wrote:Where were you earlier when I was stating Tchill was probably targeted and people were shutting me down?
I brought it up as early as .

If we can agree on a chill-lynch today, I can be way more open for other avenues D3.
As of now, this feels like a tunnel that has no exits midway - I need to see chill flip.
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #59) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:10 am

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WAIT WAIT WAIT, what happens here:
In post 1016, Flavor Leaf wrote:Day 1 ended abruptly, he didn’t set things up, which is why I would also go Tchill, but again, people were arguing me about that.

Where were you earlier when I was stating Tchill was probably targeted and people were shutting me down?
How does this fit with:
In post 1012, Flavor Leaf wrote:On the subject of believing Ari, Aristo doesn’t claim blessed as scum there. That’s absolutely not Aristo’s style.
???

Or is your argument that "Ari fakeclaimed, yes, but he is still town"? :?
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #60) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:12 am

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TWO THINGS I WILL NOT BUDGE ON - CHILL NEEDS TO BE LYNCHED, AND ARI WASN'T BLESSED LAST NIGHT.
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Post Post #1022 (isolation #61) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:15 am

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Like, FFS Boon.
Let's assume WhyMafia DIDN'T get to crumb D1, fine.

HE WOULD STILL TARGET A PERSON THAT HE THINKS IS SURELY TOWN, OR WHO HE HAS HINTED AT THE VERY LEAST.

There should be no way around this, everyone should understand it.
If you were to get a role such as his, you would pick a target that you think is surely town - why would you risk it with Ari?
And since no one else has claimed blessed, he targeted scum.
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #62) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:15 am

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Back of from the bird Boon! :cop:

@Dunker, we need to keep pushing this to everyone else too, or he just gets out of it like always.. ;)
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #63) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:23 am

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In post 1034, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1030, UnaBombaH wrote:Back of from the bird Boon! :cop:

@Dunker, we need to keep pushing this to everyone else too, or he just gets out of it like always.. ;)
I’m shooting this tonight.
So you are shooting a confirmable townie? :]
I think we got you..

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Post Post #1040 (isolation #64) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:33 am

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I want everyone not familiar with Boon to not he hazed, this is just as likely to be scum as it is town.
I just think the logic follows that he is scum (his fakeclaims/claims aside).
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #65) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:33 am

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You're getting heated Boon, so try to calm down and let us try and find an alternative route to solve this? :]
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #66) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:40 am

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In post 1046, Flavor Leaf wrote:Alternate route, you push Aristo. Tchill’s easier to read as the game goes on.
See, this makes sense to me too. :]

I was going to propose this before your floodgates opened actually. :lol:
I think we lynch Ari -> he flips scum -> we lynch chill.
This chain is halted if Ari somehow fking flips Blessed town..thoughts?
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #67) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:40 am

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In post 1047, Flavor Leaf wrote:And if you think Aristo is lying, then that should mean you think he’s scum over Tchill.
I knew you were fakeclaiming Miller too, but didn't think you were more scummy than Chill.. :]
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #68) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:01 am

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In post 1054, Tchill13 wrote:Your mislynch didn't go through as easily as you thought it would.
This is again trying to push the narrative that I could still somehow be scum.. :lol:
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #69) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:21 am

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In post 1059, Tchill13 wrote:Maybe una is incapable of making complex reads? My lord if we have some competent scum who don't make such "obvious" plays una isn't helping at all. Seeing how no wagon can properly be built I'd say scum is at least decent atm.
I dislike posts like these, because they only make me more stubborn.. :(

Powerlynching Dunker today because he is scum?
Or because other than me, he seems to be the only one who stands up to Boon?
I like how dunker is suddenly the lynch for D2, and I am to be vigged.. :lol:
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #70) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:22 am

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I realize we should never lynch Flavor with the vig claim, simply because we will get two kills tonight..right? :]

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Post Post #1081 (isolation #71) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:51 am

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I NOW GET THE REFERENCE - AWESOME SONG.
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Post Post #1103 (isolation #72) » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:38 pm

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In post 1094, Flavor Leaf wrote:This is an Assemble game, with a claimed Backup Miller.
Who?
Where?

If someone claimed that, they be scum!
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #73) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:39 am

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In post 1104, Flavor Leaf wrote:If you aren’t a backup miller, you’re getting lynched today. There’s no other way your role implies miller before a miller flip, then you turn miller afterwards. There’s a cleric flip, you can’t have a variant.
But I never claimed "Backup Miller".
I am a Miller now though - wasn't yesterday. :)

There is a reason why I was willing to wait until D2/D3 to lynch Esp.
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #74) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:04 am

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My very first post, before the game had even officially started, was a setup for my most blatant crumb.
In post 4, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 3, Assemblerotws wrote:
Rule 5 has been edited. "Bah" posts are no longer allowed.
I think BAHs are over-appreciated anyway..! :]

Baths on the other hand.. :roll:
I then waited for a good spot to implement my crumb without it being too obvious:
In post 38, UnaBombaH wrote:I'll stop spamming now,
you'll find me the tub
when we can get to playing.
Not a typo, didn't miss a "in" there.
I am your TUB - TownUniversalBackup.
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #75) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:40 am

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In post 1113, Something_Smart wrote:Ironically this makes me trust you less as this means you committed to a UB claim before such a claim would make you a miller.
??
I always secretly crumb my PRs. I couldn't crumb miller..because I wasnt a miller yet? :]
So ofc I committed to my original role, anyone with brains could deduce the role backed up when they check who died first.

I also really did check with Assemble N1, I would flip upon death "UB turned Miller", and should be the same with a possible rolecoppage.
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #76) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:42 am

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In post 1113, Something_Smart wrote:(I am curious though. How often do you lay crumbs like that as scum?)
I dislike fakeclaiming as scum! :lol:

We just won a newbie with Elsa, ask her. :]
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #77) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:30 am

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In post 1120, Tchill13 wrote:Well that's a pretty freaking strong role Imo. On top of the already strong cleric.
You understand my personal annoyance better now?
From the moment Esp. claimed miller to when he was actually lynched, I was so sure I'd end up with that heritage.. :lol:
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #78) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:17 pm

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Dunker isn't scum, but Boon almost certainly is.

I'm willing to rethink my stance on who WhyMafia checked - believe it or not, I have read his ISO like ten times now and come to the realization that there might be no crumbs at all.. :(

But I'm honestly quite certain we should lynch Boon.
From my PoV, especially if we mislynch today, we are worse off even if he is Vig and shoots a conf.town like me.

He bases his blame on me on..what?
I think I was well off as a townread for today - I had absolutely no reason to claim Miller or backup of any kind for today! :lol:

I STRONGLY DISBELIEVE BOONS VIG-CLAIM AND WANT HIM LYNCHED TODAY.


And Ari should likely be the lynch tomorrow.
In the very unlikely off-chance that Boon flips vig, we can believe Ari being blessed and have a conf.townie.
And in that case scum would likely kill Ari, leaving us with very little powerroles (I'd assume?) and we solve the game the old-fashioned way. :]

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Post Post #1171 (isolation #79) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:34 pm

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In post 1125, Flavor Leaf wrote:You’re incessant stating that universal backup implied existence of a miller is the exact opposite of what it should have been.
What does this even mean?
I only didn't want Esp. lynched D1 because I didn't want to risk becoming a Miller myself.
I also thought the name "Blessed Mafia" made it very plausable to have a Miller, and to me the idea of a UB in that same context made a lot of sense too!

Think of it like this: Esp. hadn't claimed a Miller.
We lynch a VT or scum D1.
NK1 lands on Esp. or another VT.
D2 has a chance for someone having a guilty on Esp. -> likely lynched D2. (what I thought D1 when he claimed and was trying to logically deduce what might happen.)
Meaning town would very likely have to "fight through" two millers.

Now in this game Esp. even went forward and claimed it, so I was almost certain I'd land that role if I can't thwart the lynch.
Imagine if we hadn't lynched him D1, I'd likely be a cleric now. :facepalm:
In post 1126, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m shooting Unah tonight. Like, yeah, sorry, if youre claiming UB and not Backup Miller, I’m shooting you. I wasn’t gonna go trough with the backupmiller shot.
I also disagree with this, and I'd say town!Boon should too.
Backup-Miller would set town back a lot.
It might make this less "swingy" of a setup, but you also have to say this for your Vig-claim to make sense.
I'd say cleric+vig+UB is a bit strong, but maybe the Miller balances it out..don't know.
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Post Post #1172 (isolation #80) » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:46 pm

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Likely my last post in this game for today, and I want to make sure I have made my stance ABSOLUTELY CLEAR in case someone gets a fastlynch going (wouldn't be the first in my absence).

Everyone one of you who are the least suspicious about the Boon/Ari-dynamic - FOLLOW MY LEAD!
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

To the newer (or unfamiliar) players: if Boon makes it through to D3 Town has almost certainly lost this.
And if you are really worried he is a Vig (which he is not), think of it like this:
1. His "shot" N1 was questionable, bad even
2. He is going to "shoot" a well-beforehand crumbed PR, and definitely drive a mislynch for today if you allow him to
3. In the WORST CASE SCENARIO, Boon is town!Vig. BUT. He would almost certainly be gated somehow, so we would miss maybe one shot(?), and even that would be on a town-slot (me).

IF
you refuse to lynch Boon today, I really really want you to lynch me.
Confirm me as town, and force Boon to "come up with another shot" for tonight.
And then let him explain why there's only one nightkill. :]

Now I need to continue working, and then straight off to our companys Pikkujoulut.. ;)
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #81) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:18 pm

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In post 1174, Flavor Leaf wrote:He said his role implied Miller.
Where?
In post 740, UnaBombaH wrote:I explicitly told that I knew he was a Miller - and yet people never bothered to give me a chance to explain myself before hammering him at the end of the day.
If you are talking about this, I never said it was because of my role. This was also still a point where I was pissed that the lynch had went through while I was away, and was thinking about gambiting a fakeclaim where I could claim to have a guilty on anyone else claiming Miller.
In post 1195, Flavor Leaf wrote:And I had basically claimed Universal Backup earlier this game, and unah didn’t push it at all.
Where?
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #82) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:30 pm

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In post 543, UnaBombaH wrote:I'm not sure how to communicate this to everyone, but I sort of..know..we shouldn't lynch Esp D1.

I do not claim power (yet), but I just feel like it's obvious.. :lol:
This should make it painfully obvious I am an UB.
I "sort of knew" we shouldn't lynch him, because I didn't want to become a Miller.
I added the "yet" because I could gain power during the night or after a lynch..
In post 550, UnaBombaH wrote:But if that made scum think they hit power by nightkill in me, they waste their shot.
..because I literally didn't have any power yet.
In post 552, UnaBombaH wrote:Also, just in case going to throw it out here in straightforward words: Esp. can be scum - no doubt about it.
He just shouldn't be killed today.
...what is this if I were to be anything else than Universal Backup? :]
In post 561, UnaBombaH wrote:Guyssss...the way you talk only to each other makes me sad.. :( I already told how I feel about lynching Esp. tonight.
I just don't want to become an outsider.. :cry:
Hmmm....https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... edirect=no
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #83) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:32 pm

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In post 1195, Flavor Leaf wrote:UB and Miller aren’t a thing that happens.
You are the second player in game saying UB+Miller can't/shouldn't be in the same game..
I wonder if YOU said it in an attempt to please S_S? :]
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Post Post #1199 (isolation #84) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:33 pm

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My head still hurts from last night..

Please, oh please..just help me lynch Boon today.
It is the path to victory, no matter what he says. (and he is going to say plenty after this)
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #85) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:29 am

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In post 1200, Something_Smart wrote:But Una... why would we lynch Boon today? If he's scum, that practically confirms Ari as scum as well, so we might as well lynch Ari and give Boon a chance to prove himself tonight.
How does he prove himself?
By shooting me?

He will claim roleblock or shared target with scum 100% of the time.
In the off-chance he is a vig, we can trust Aris claim and he is conf. town tomorrow.
While if we lynch Ari, he flips blessed, and Boon still kills a townie..so it's worse for us.
And no matter what he says at this point, I cant trust him anymore.
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Post Post #1653 (isolation #86) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:32 am

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I'm just pissed because Boon and Chill got away with it. :igmeou:
Loved the setup, I think it was one of the better ones I've seen yet.

Thanks to Assemble, and every player for the game.
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Post Post #1663 (isolation #87) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:28 am

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There's a large by assemble coming?
Dare I ask to be put on the list? :]
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #88) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:30 pm

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..and this is me ruining Elsas beautiful gesture. :]
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Post Post #1711 (isolation #89) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:03 pm

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No, it's not - I thought the same!
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Post Post #1713 (isolation #90) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:51 am

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True, I shall now let Elsa have the last post of the game.
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #91) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:23 am

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Oh true, well, this time I'm sure you got it! :]
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #92) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:41 am

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OK
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Post Post #1719 (isolation #93) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:57 am

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So we're good here?
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Post Post #1728 (isolation #94) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:23 pm

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Not trying to take the last post - just wishing you a Happy Birthday!
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #95) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:01 am

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:]
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Post Post #1732 (isolation #96) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:12 am

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No, I'm pretty sure it will be shut down.
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Post Post #1738 (isolation #97) » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:35 pm

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Quite large.
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Post Post #1740 (isolation #98) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:44 pm

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I just realized this game isn't locked yet, and I decided earlier I wanted the last post in thread before a mod shows up to lock it.

So...ummm...last post? :]
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Post Post #1743 (isolation #99) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:17 am

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Goddammit guys! :evil:
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Post Post #1745 (isolation #100) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:03 am

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Didn't mean to be rude Elsa.. :]
I'll let you have your peace now, if we should both be such gentlemen as to take a step back, and let such childish competitions be.
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #101) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:49 am

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Hmmm...so if we keep commenting on this, it might..never..?....be locked?
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Post Post #1753 (isolation #102) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:11 am

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In post 1752, JaydragonKing wrote:Oh shit. That means this will never stop being at the top of my book marks even though it was like my second game.
Unbookmark it.

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Post Post #1756 (isolation #103) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:18 am

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I subscribe to topics myself.
And delete them from subscriptions once I've added them to my wiki-list.

I should definitely ask someone help making my Wiki-page more amazing looking.. :?
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Post Post #1772 (isolation #104) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:33 am

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You should both go talk this out somewhere else.
You read what Ari said earlier - this game will likely never be archived if you guys keep spamming in it.. :igmeou:
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Post Post #1774 (isolation #105) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:00 pm

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In post 1773, JaydragonKing wrote:Well then it'll never close. I do not believe that is my problem, or even Ari's.
..such attitude..
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Post Post #1776 (isolation #106) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:19 pm

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Yeye
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