Open 707 - JK9++ [Endgame]

[UnaBombaH]

Sup hey what do we do

Be a rebel and vote someone.
Make a vote you can comfortably stand behind, and you don't even need to explain it.
Just do it.

[RedFlavor]

VOTE: unabombah
That was post pretty weird
Also Im a ReVeluv

[RedFlavor]

*post was

[UnaBombaH]

If you can comfortably stand behind that vote, and say that you think I'm scum, then by all means that was a good vote.

[yessiree]

VC 1.22

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Creature (4) -

JaydragonKing, Hawk, Impede, momo

Impede (3) -

Kop, havingfitz, Almost50

Almost50 (1) -

UnabombaH

UnabombaH (1) -

RedFlavor

Not voting

- Creature, Assemblerotws, sheepsaysmeep, Mathdino

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-01-12 08:00:00)

[Kop]

is that a hammer fuck

This reaction screams fake to me.

[yessiree]

Request deadline extension equal to the period of time between Assemble's last post and Assemble being replaced.

Deferred to the replacement, so a decision will be made then.

[Kop]

@Math I understand you are clearing him as a town read because his general play is consistent with his town meta, from previous games. However I am not willing to give him a pass simply because we don't have a scum meta that others can divulge into. He could simply be playing to his town meta when he could easily be scum.

This is one of my sole reasons I don't tend to use meta to get a read on someone, I'd rather get my reads from how they are playing in this game, rather than previous games. People evolve, and they gain more experience on how to play this game. You could easily be duped into believing he is playing his town game.

For example, Fitz voted for me in RVS and made out that I was a possible policy lynch based on his experience with me in previous games.

[yessiree]

havingfitz has been prodded.

[JaydragonKing]

Honestly RedFlavor, at this point your no longer either Lynch option but can you tell my why your first response back is is to only say "wassup tell me what to do"?

[momo]

I'm afraid that a few players (cough you, and me earlier) are just skimming well-written cases and being swayed.

OK, this is EXACTLY what I was saying in my previous post: I feel like certain players have been lead on by impressive LOOKING cases, that are nothing but smoke and mirrors.
I feel like A50 got a too easy townread from some.
I think Impede got scumread because of the way people stacked on their "scumreads" on top of each others previous ones - not checking whether they even agreed with everything or even MOST.

I myself have found posts from Impede that I thought could be interpreted as scummy, but my main read on him is Town.
If I were to just take those few parts I disliked and added them on the pile of "cases" others have built, I would've ended up death tunneling him to the end.

On this same notion, I think sheep has been either scummy or lazy - not making the effort to start of case from the scratch.
MathDino is making the effort, BUT I'm seriously getting worried it's just posing.
I get a feeling he is currently trying to pocket and "appease" me, and him as town would have no reason to do so.
I like the fact that he provides so much to read though - if he's scum he is almost bound to make a mistake or monitor his posting so heavily it should be visible lategame.

MY BIGGEST REASON FOR WANTING A50 TO FLIP, IS BECAUSE A RED MONKEY WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY BE PARTNERED WITH A RED DINO.

#MyLastCaseFile #ifTomorrowNeverComes #NailThemScumsters #DontTrustA50 #BeWaryOfMomo #InactiveTowniesNeedToVote #YouHaveAVoice

But both of them so green man
Why you trying this lynch
Be an obedient fan

[momo]

I believe A50 will not be the lynch today, but I'm certainly going to keep investigating the game with the theory of A50+momo.

Dino is my paranoia-scumread, but likely town. (he seems to be a genuinely nice guy and actively keeps the peace, which I MIGHT HAVE MISTAKEN for pocketing)

The third scum is either SK or can be found in the inactives (in which case we will likely find them with the VCAs later)

a50 and momo
but momo ain't scum though
why you still tryin' bro
We town, you know

[momo]

I did some VCA with set assumptions, and wrote the results in excel. I now have a few scenarios where (depending on who we lynch, and who flips after the night), I can comfortably start drawing associations.

I want you to download this excel file and reasoning and post it in this thread

if it looks legit, I will consider siding with you

(btw, how were my freestyles in the above two posts, r8 outta 10 m8)

P.S. rate out of 10 mate
prove you ain't lynch bait

[Mathdino]

@Math I understand you are clearing him as a town read because his general play is consistent with his town meta, from previous games. However I am not willing to give him a pass simply because we don't have a scum meta that others can divulge into. He could simply be playing to his town meta when he could easily be scum.

This is one of my sole reasons I don't tend to use meta to get a read on someone, I'd rather get my reads from how they are playing in this game, rather than previous games. People evolve, and they gain more experience on how to play this game. You could easily be duped into believing he is playing his town game.

You're completely misunderstanding me. Have I done the meta speech this game yet?

I don't use meta to OBTAIN reads on people. I use meta to NULLIFY reads on people.

That seems kinda bad, but having bad reads is also kinda bad, so it cancels out. Basically, if I see someone having a particular telling behaviour (and I'm scumreading them for that behaviour) I'll ask myself if there's the possibility that either town or scum could do that shit. I meta them. If that behaviour is not typical for them across games, then it's specific to this game, and I'll nail them as either town or scum. If that behaviour IS consistent across games, then I can tell myself I should not be reading them for that behaviour.

Meta and rebutting A50's case on Impede nullified Impede for me. The slight townread comes from a couple other things that I fundamentally believe only comes from town, and are things that he'd have to actively fake in order for it to come from scum. Not having seen his scum meta, I agree I could be duped. That's why it's null-town and not town.

Either way, this is a bad lynch today.

Edit: Sharing the Excel file is anti-town. Don't.

[momo]

Guys, sheepsaysmeep entered the modding queue exactly 3 months from his join date (lol)

[sheepsaysmeep]

join my game when it starts

[Mathdino]

Ok I'm a bit of a hypocrite cuz I started singing at Jay yesterday but please don't clog up the thread with non-game related stuff while we're waiting for a replacement. It makes it harder for them to catch up.

[JaydragonKing]

They'll already have over 800 posts to catch up on, with 100 being mainly fluff and like 70 walls. I don't think adding a few more sentences will be a big bother.

[Almost50]

@Jay: Happy Birdthday

Also, you should NOT have claimed a shooting pool. If I was a BusDriver and I had a partner in your pool I'd be switching YOU with them. (What a way for you to go)

[JaydragonKing]

Well they'll have to guess which of the two/three I'm gonna shoot if that's the case. And I'm good at rock-paper-scissors so I think I'll win.

[Mathdino]

Well they'll have to guess which of the two/three I'm gonna shoot if that's the case. And I'm good at rock-paper-scissors so I think I'll win.

This is the point of the shooting pool, yes.

[yessiree]

Srceenplay replaces Assemblerotws. Welcome!

[JaydragonKing]

Plus, if the mafia really want to switch themselves with me, I'll just shoot myself!

[JaydragonKing]

Plus, if the mafia really want to switch themselves with me, I'll just shoot myself!

Shoot: JaydragonKing

is what I mean when I say that, by the way. To clear up any misinterpretations.

[Srceenplay]

UNVOTE:

Hello