Mini 572 - Packrats (game over)

[Ether]

4 Capricious (eldarad, hasdgfas, Capricious, Skruffs)
2 Andycyca (Elmo, Zindaras)
2 Skruffs (Y, Mizzy)
1 Rotten Snitch (Sir Tornado)

2 Unvote (Andycyca, Rotten Snitch)

11 alive; 6 to lynch.

5/6 - Capricious, hasdgfas, Skruffs, Mizzy, eldarad

15 hours and 23 minutes until the block ends.

[Zindaras]

Capri, why am I suddenly on your scumlist?

[Skruffs]

Yeahbut, you forgot
A) Is scum and is voting himself to help scumbuddies look good
B) Is scum and doesn't care that he is scum so is giving up
etc...
all of your options are with him as town.

[Y]

Skruffs is still my main suspect for trying to make facts about who must be scum without a real basis, but I'm not ruling Capricious out. I'll vote Capricious if needed for a lynch.

[Mizzy]

Yeahbut, you forgot
A) Is scum and is voting himself to help scumbuddies look good
B) Is scum and doesn't care that he is scum so is giving up
etc...
all of your options are with him as town.

No, 2 of them are as if Capri is town and 2 of them are if Capri is scum. And like I said, there are many, many reasons/trains of thought involved, and I chose the 4 major ones at the forefront of my mind.

In essence, I'm hung between Capri being bored/stupid town and inventive/brave scum.

[Skruffs]

Why not bored/stupid scum though? Or brave town?

[Mizzy]

Why not bored/stupid scum though? Or brave town?

Why not any number of possibility combinations? Those are the ones I focused on but did not pursue, as I said, because of the severe WIFOM involved. Why are you so hell-bent on badgering me about them?

[Ether]

2/6 - Skruffs, Mizzy

5 hours and 27 minutes until the block ends.

A particularly strong breeze chills your lynchcrowd. Zindaras runs to catch the bag of popcorn he was sharing with Elmo. Y shivers. Elmo nibbles what's left of his popcorn. But Tornado outdoes them all; he sways and twitches and mumbles something under his breath. Then he falls over.

Just as Mizzy bends down to check his pulse, he twitches again. She jumps back a good couple of feet.

"H-He's having a seizure," she concludes.

"Oh,

not again,

" a twelfth voice says. "I could have told you that."

Yosarian takes out a jar of pills and puts one in Tornado's mouth. "He'll be okay, but he's in withdrawl. His

Seizure Party

cravings get pretty bad. I just beat the new one; good thing I came out to check on him.

"Now...you were the guys yelling about lynching werewolves earlier, right? I'm in for that. I might start misspelling your names if this takes too long, but really, we should be okay."

Yosarian2 replaces Sir Tornado.

[Y]

The town needs a lynch and Capricious seems a good enough option.

Unvote, Vote Capricious.

I still think Skruffs should be looked at more carefully.

[hasdgfas]

Capricious still hasn't told us about his suspicions on myself or Zindaras, making me think that it's only there to look like he's contributing.

[Skruffs]

We've been cutting deadline requirements shorter and shorter. It is now a matter of whether you would rather lynch Capricious or not at all. Either vote him or be responsible for a non-lynch.

[Yosarian2]

Heh. Lol@Ethar. Erm, I mean Ether.

ANd yeah, I'm replacing in. Shouldn't take me too long to get caught up here.

[eldarad]

/post

Currently re-reading a newbie game I'm in, I'll post here when I next get the chance. My views on Capri haven't changed.

[Skruffs]

Yosarian2 only laughs when he's nervous, and he's only nervous
when
he's
SCUM.

[Yosarian2]

Ok, reading through the thread now:

Let us discuss why the kill was made on an unknown player, and not on B-list celebrities such as Zindaras and Skruffs, or even a D-list celeb like Y. I feel that if the scum were solely composed of relative newbs, they would target a strong player, not only because it would be a good play, but that the weak always want to get to the strong.

First of all, Zind is totally an A-list celebrety.

Secondly, I'm not sure why everyone jumped all over Capricious for this post; considering nothing else had happened yet, this is not a completly invalid line of reasoning to start out with until something better comes along.

[Yosarian2]

Mizzy I don't think it is just empty fingerpointing. The game only identifies vanilla townies. We may be correct in assuming that there is a cop, seer, or investigator who was able to get a read on someone Night-0. Although right now it may seem like empty accusations but I'm sure there could be truth behind one of them.

Just a thought.

fos:Rotten Snitch

for anti-town cop speculations.

Skruffs: Was your early attack on Zindy serious?

On the other hand, this Capricious posts feels less pro-town

Don't threaten, if you want to voice your opinion through a vote, do so. Votes leave us with more evidence and track record later. That post just makes you look scummy because anything I reply with can be struck down by you as not on par with "excellent contribution". Thereby giving you what would appear to be a solid reason to slip a vote to others.

Nothing wrong with threatening to vote, or saying you might vote, or whatever else. This feels OMGUSy to me.

And capricious gets wierder as the game goes on...the whole investigative roles-wolfbane-stuff is bizzare.

Ok, read up to the end of page 5 now...time for dinner, be back in a little while.

[Zindaras]

Vote: Y

I'm going to put this one out here. Y feels terribly off. Like, y'know, needs to die off.

I'll try to make a case tomorrow. Zindie's just a wee bit tired.

[Yosarian2]

Skruff's warewolf role speculation stuff just feels a bit wierd to me. FOS, although I can't really explain why.

Also, this post kind of bugs me:

zindaras is not off the hook and needs to be analyzed mercilessly throughout the game (As I am pretty sure he will outlast me)

...

Huh...so, no majority at deadline means no lynch? Ok, that changes things a bit, I will make sure to place a good vote after I finish my re-read.

Not a big fan of Rotton Snitch's suggestion of a Skruffs-Zindy connection; I don't see that at all.

ALso:

Mizzy- I actually don't think Skruffs is trying to pull the attention away from me. I think he is waiting on a better time to bring the heat back on me. I don't know what his intentions are now but he was too quick to write me off like he did. I will admit that my previous posts seemed scumy although it was not my intent. I saw something in Skruffs posts. Although it was WIFOMy on my part I apologize. I still get a tingle when I read Skruffs posts.......call it love.... or call it suspicion.

Uh,huh? You think he's trying to...pull attention away from you in order to get you lynched?

On a side note, while I don't agree with basically anything Skruffs said, oddly enough my meta on him makes me think that irrational early-game agression for bad reasons isn't a scum tell from him, heh. Pretty neutral on Skruffs right now.

Capricious voted himself to avoid a no lynch? Uh...that's kind of strange. Could you explain why you think that's a good move, Capricious? On the other hand, if he was scum, he might have just lurked and it might have caused a no-lynch here, if I'm understanding the rules right, whihc means that him posting and voting himself might be a weak town tell here. (Or, I guess the word I'm looking for is, an "anti-scum" tell). Odd.

1) Capritown > Gets bored and doesn't care > Votes for self > Hurts town by aiding his own mislynch

Oddly enough, if Capri expects to get lynched today or tommorow, I could see Capritown deciding that lynching himself is better for the town then a no-lynch, and I can't imagine capriscum ever deciding that lynching himself is better then a no lynch. Unless he's capriscum pulling a WIFOM thingy here.

[Yosarian2]

So...how does this deadline work, exactally? Are we in danger at the moment? Because my current instint is to leave my vote where it is, on Rotton Snitch, unless we need me to move it in order to avoid a no-lynch. Is that going to happen soon?

[eldarad]

So...how does this deadline work, exactally? Are we in danger at the moment? Because my current instint is to leave my vote where it is, on Rotton Snitch, unless we need me to move it in order to avoid a no-lynch. Is that going to happen soon?

We have to had 6 different people post in the thread every 24 hours, starting and ending at 3am GMT. We've got our six for today so we're OK for at least another 27 hours.
Day will end if:
1) 7 people vote for the same person -> a lynch
2) less than six people post in a 24 hour block -> no lynch

[eldarad]

So much for me being clever.
It's six to lynch, otherwise I think my last post is correct. Actually, Ether explains it better in the 1st post of the thread:

Status

: It is Day 1; with 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Due to the deadline, it also takes 6 to keep the thread open for each 24-hour block until you can lynch someone. And the 24-hour blocks are each checked at 11:00 pm Eastern. Parity!

That also means that Capri is at L-1 if I can count correctly.

[Mizzy]

Oddly enough, if Capri expects to get lynched today or tommorow, I could see Capritown deciding that lynching himself is better for the town then a no-lynch, and I can't imagine capriscum ever deciding that lynching himself is better then a no lynch. Unless he's capriscum pulling a WIFOM thingy here.

Agreed, which is why I'm not voting him

at the moment

. I'm still deciding for myself whether a mislynch is better or worse than a no-lynch. It sucks, but I think a mislynch is better, isn't it? Statistically. Ugh.

I haven't had to deal with this particular conundrum in MS yet, and I'm looking for some opinions here.

[hasdgfas]

A lynch is almost

always

better than a no-lynch. That way you can analyze voting patterns and other things from the lynch. It also gives us less people to find the mafia from in later days. There are certain instances in which no lynch is good, Day 1 is never one of those instances.

Has Capricious claimed?

[Skruffs]

Mizzy and (zind) are scum, but would prefer to lynch mito help case on zind

Yos is 'fine' and pretending to be town while ignoriing looking at serious things?
(Case against zind was inflamed by others, etc)

Capri is in need of being lynched, don't like players that are playing russian roulette with deadline

[Yosarian2]

Mizzy and (zind) are scum, but would prefer to lynch mito help case on zind

Yos is 'fine' and pretending to be town while ignoriing looking at serious things?
(Case against zind was inflamed by others, etc)

...

Uh, the only "serious" thing about the so-called "case against zind" was that it makes you look bad. Did I miss something, or should I be paying more attention to how it makes you look bad?