Open 707 - JK9++ [Endgame]

[sheepsaysmeep]

also pagetop yey

[Hawk]

if vig exists i think the vig kill would be a50 tbh

I think the opposite. But A50 didn't seem scummy at all to me so... you could at least make arguement that Vigi was banking we didn't roll 3 or 4Ks for a double Vigi setup.

Pedit: Just curious... I was actually thinking adding in the Tracker it would upset how we could have double Vigi And one shot bus driver thus possibly making the Vig on Jay make sense but it doesn't add up... that's why I said let me.check the setup.

[Mathdino]

Oh yeah I forgot, sheep is also a suspect. Counts as somewhat of a "on the wagon". The way he's acted around the Creature lynch has been weird.

Also stop pagetopping, this game is long enough for a mini. Finding replacements is gonna be ridiculous.

Edit: I wouldn't worry too much about it. Once everyone else gets here we'll know if that was a vig shot.

[Srceenplay]

VOTE: Mathdino

Off to sleep.
Told you he was the town scum leader.

[sheepsaysmeep]

i like that popin

[Mathdino]

I assume your theory is that I killed A50 to clear myself because everyone paired me with him?

Can you explain your case on me within the context of the flips?

[Srceenplay]

I assume your theory is that I killed A50 to clear myself because everyone paired me with him?

Can you explain your case on me within the context of the flips?

No theory. Haven’t thought much about it yet.
Just thought I’d post before bed.
Best place to start is where I left off.

[Hawk]

That popin was eh.... Assemble looked bad... Screenplay didn't look better... But I will admit Dino has felt very awkward since the hammer, and I was expecting him to be dead...

Pedit: I'm probably going to sleep soon as well I got work in the AM and it's 11 here.

[Mathdino]

I can see that. I've been playing chat mafia since nightfall to get my mafia fix so I've been stylistically shifting much further toward stream-of-consciousness instead of crafting paragraphs.

Every post I've made since the hammer has been pretty much spitting out sentences as fast as I can so I can get in on the discussion.

Although now I'm self-conscious of it. Fuck.

Outside of that, I can't really respond to tonereads, but I'll certainly respond to motivation reads or questioning of my logic/reasoning. Srceenplay not adapting his reads to the new information is hugely concerning. I'm holding out hope he's just VI. RedFlavor has many more pages of bad play.

[sheepsaysmeep]

psure screen is town

[Hawk]

psure screen is town

Why??

[sheepsaysmeep]

942

[Mathdino]

screen catches up like i do as town
he also has quite a few original thoughts
tr'ing him

i dont fall under good tone/gut readers tho

[sheepsaysmeep]

i still tr him

[Hawk]

That's not a reason why... That's a explanation of your intent to Tr him... along with reasonable doubt of your TR. What original thoughts??

Pedit: What has he said that was towny to you?

[sheepsaysmeep]

scum!dino is obviously the most original thought that stands out

essentially it's the "screen catches up like i do as town" part that makes me tr him

[sheepsaysmeep]

the line at the bottom is bc dino asked for good tone/gut readers to say their opinions on screen

[Mathdino]

VC 1.17

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Creature (4) -

JaydragonKing, RedFlavor, momo, Almost50

Assemblerotws (3) -

Mathdino, Impede, Hawk

Impede (2) -

Kop, havingfitz

JaydragonKing (1) -

Assemblerotws

Almost50 (1) -

UnabombaH

RedFlavor (1) -

sheepsaysmeep

Not voting

- Creature

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-01-12 08:00:00)

I'm willing to bet, based on the trajectory of the day, that bussing isn't going on here.

That indicates to me that there's scum in {Assemble, Impede, Hawk}, scum in {Creature, RedFlavor, A50}, and then a final scum that's been in our townbloc the whole time. Probably someone in {Impede, Kop, fitz, Una}.

Wait okay I'm wrong. RedFlavor has been on Creature for a while when he could easily have been on Assembleslot or Impede.

Redbus doesn't make sense. I want to hear momo's input for why that's his current theory.

Until then,
uh idk i'm split between sheep and Kop tbh
VOTE: Kop
at least sheep is here

also anyone who has arguments on Impede should reiterate why they make sense. Because Impede was very obviously the counterwagon to Creature.

[sheepsaysmeep]

i would prefer kop > sheep

[sheepsaysmeep]

i havent actually looked into impede

i havent actually looked into this game tbqh

[sheepsaysmeep]

so kop is a poe read?

[Mathdino]

VOTE: Impede

This is a wagon outside of Jay/red that I'd like to take off. I don't necessarily scum read Jay, but I just feel he's being hard pressed into a mislynch, I just don't think scum would be that stupid to focus all of the attention onto themselves in the manner he has done since gamestart. I obviously wouldn't like to think that we could possibly go into LYLO with him but I'm wanting to go into different areas rather than focus on him for days on end.

Impede on the other hand, has given me nothing to note that I could town read him for, and I do like the case Fitz has put out against Impede. Last few pages that I have been reading, his name was popping out quite a bit. His vote on Jay doesn't make any sense to me at all, I wouldn't call it opportunistic, it felt more of a let go vote. If this wagon takes off and Impede flips scum, I would 100% go back for Jay because of how that vote felt to me.

Another point I didn't quite work out, he stated that he would hide behind Momo, why would you hide behind Momo considering he had him in his town read in post #152? Why would you not hide behind Fitz, or Una who you were scum reading? I understand hiding behind your town reads would give you a better chance of living, but also confirming your reads, doesn't give anything to gamestate because you don't really confirm anything, because you could be scum lying about being the hider and the hider might not even be in the game.

@Jay, Creature is null for me. I've played with Creature a few times, and in most of them, he wasn't entirely active so it's hard for me to get a lock on read on him. It's 50/50 if I was to vote for him to be the next lynch. Unless he shows me a sign that he is scum, I will act upon it.

I understand you have your sights set on Jay, and I do agree with you with what you are saying, but personally I'd rather go for someone who can give us more information going into day two so we can get a stronger read on others, I feel lynching Jay on day one, isn't going to give us anything and reads won't be as strong as they would by lynching someone who gives us more. Jay will never be shot, so that is going to obviously be in the back of everyones mind and someone we don't want in LYLO, but he can easily be done on day 2 or 3 if we aren't further forward in lynching scum.

Your vote on Creature is an attempt to take attention of yourself, it isn't that hard to see. You only paid attention to Creature and voted for him because Math was putting you in the situation that was tying you to Creature, so in aid for that to be dissolved, it was then that you started to put your focus on Creature, also this was when attention was turning onto you (also note that Impede was slightly behind Creature in the votes). Pushing the creature wagon closer to the lynch may help you in time because people may think with Creature being closer to the lynch than you, they may opt to go to the biggest thing going, creature.

Your play doesn't tell me that you are actively trying to locate scum, it is showing me that you are just simply going with what others are echoing and your reasons for doing so are weak. I will hold my hands up if you flip green and say that I am wrong, but from what I'm seeing, I don't have high confidence that your town.

I'm voting Kop because this shit almost worked. Not PoE at all.

[sheepsaysmeep]

as of the next few days do not expect me to want to read posts more than 30 words long

[Mathdino]

if you care about a lonely middle school boy going through serious depression because of jay's snipe and he cant afford mental health services and you have a heart hit me up for a hydra for lucky2u's micro upick
also that depressed boy's grades are dropping exponentially because of his online porn addiction
he's forgotten how to live life
someone who's not the one who made me go through this

Like this one?

im psure creature plays like this at as either alignment with these popins and popouts
i dont recall his popins being wolfy popins; im more in favor of red or assemble lynches

Or this super scummy post?

[UnaBombaH]

I'm amazing at this game.

I do still stand by what I said about interactions around A50. Also, A50 as a NK makes sense only if there were blatant crumbs that I missed, OR someone gained distance from it.
No doubt he is a good player, but there would've been better targets for scum to take.
My working theory for today is that SK killed A50, and Mafia wasted the "vig".