Dance of the Title Fairy: Accepting Applications

[Thestatusquo]

"X should have a title!" is the opposite of a justification for giving someone a title.

[Thestatusquo]

The active campaign rule only existed to shut down shottys title.
I think many people forget that

This is not true. I don't know if the codified rule originated with shotty (I doubt it) but I can tell you that even when I was first on the site in 2006 there was a strong culture of "if you ask for a title or try to convince people to give you a title you will not get a/that title."

Or, for brevity I could just say this:

[Thestatusquo]

I don't navigate by egosearch. I actually like...go to forums and stuff.

[Thestatusquo]

Prove it buddy.

[Thestatusquo]

oh hey 2010.

[Thestatusquo]

Oh look 2006

[Thestatusquo]

Animorph is dead to me now.

It's almost like you delight in talking about things you know nothing about.

[Thestatusquo]

Literally codified in every rule set before shotty. All the way back to Thok.

[Thestatusquo]

I think I was nominated by like 5 people before I ever posted in the thread about my title.

My comments were about how much I wanted it after the nom and what it meant to me.

If you want to call that "campaigning" when I didn't suggest the title, there was already a large group of support for it, and I didn't do anything that is not common in title threads (posting your thoughts on the title you have already been proposed and whether you want it or not.) then sure.

But also you're just wrong.

[Thestatusquo]

Like this is actually literally mind boggling to me that that was seen as campaigning.

5 people nominate me for a title.

I purposefully stay out of discussion except to give the customary "I would accept this title"

Chevre rejects title.

I make post saying literally "This title meant a lot to me and I am sad I won't get it but chevre you're doing a great job as title fairy and I respect your decision."

Then I privately messaged chevre and explicitly say "Hey man I really respect the work you're doing in the title fairy and I don't want you to think I'm mad at you. Keep doing a great job"

Then Chevre approves the title.

Then a bunch of people start talking about how they don't like it for completely unrelated reasons.

Then I tell those people those reasons are unrelated. Perhaps a little bit too rudely.

???

I fail to see at what point I was campaigning here.

[Thestatusquo]

Is that a title nom?

[Thestatusquo]

0.o

I was saying you won that round

I am aware. But also I want to talk about titles!

[Thestatusquo]

when do i get a specifically congratulatory post/pm combo

When you approve doot

When you disapprove a title for me that I really want I guess if history is any indication

[Thestatusquo]

it was campaigning

Sound argument bro.

[Thestatusquo]

All those points are just as accurate now as they were when I originally made them.

[Thestatusquo]

I'm still mad that there is a period in your title, fwiw.

[Thestatusquo]

doot

[Thestatusquo]

The title fairy being too demographic is a bad thing imo.

[Thestatusquo]

We'll never know.

[Thestatusquo]

I would like to nominate MattP for the title of doot.

[Thestatusquo]

I would like to nominate MattP for the title of doot.

Counter nom
Moderator said no
Urban dictionary definition!
It is old and annoying
Do I need to go on.

Please come back when you can grow a beard.

[Thestatusquo]

I would like to nominate vonflare for the title of "Reason: ugh"

[Thestatusquo]

yeah but on the other hand its also funny.

[Thestatusquo]

My favorite title is "it's pronounced 'xalxe'"

[Thestatusquo]

I tend to think its a bad title for the reasons laid out by ari.

I don't think I agree with the comments about playstyle not being a valid thing for a title though. There's a long history of titles based off of playstyle.

[Thestatusquo]

nominate beeboy for the title: doot

[Thestatusquo]

If the 2018 April fools title thing isn't everyone getting doot except vonflare then psyche has let us all down tbh

this is the kind of thing you shouldn't have said. now he cant do it because it wont seem like his idea.

[Thestatusquo]

due to his role in popularizing and really helping drive the growth of the meme in the speakeasy, I would like to nominate

majiffy

for the title of

doot

He basically created it.

[Thestatusquo]

i thought we had all agreed that as the person who coined the phrase and the person it is universally associated with majiffy should get doot?

[Thestatusquo]

I don't care one way or the other about lolbalance as a title, but for the love of god can it not be rainbow text if it goes through.

Also, my favorite titles are:
Thirteenthly
Did his job
It's pronounced "xalxe"
Friends Forever! <3
Princeton's Pride
mafi ascum
die suck die
GD is my wing/Best Man

I think they all share something in common, which is they are born from either one single memorable moment, which became a site meme on its own, which had a lot of staying power. That is to say, its not like "x thing happened" and then someone nominated it for a title, but rather something happened and it became a part of that users persona so that when it got nominated the response was "oh, thats perfect" not "is this even going to be a thing in 6 months?" OR it has been a consistent part of the users persona for a long time that it became part of what defined them. Kanye talks in broken words. PJ used to go on 1000 word rants in game. People always argued about how to pronounce xalxe.

The only notable exception to this on the list of titles I really like is friends forever, which is based on a particularly funny moment in a game and then immediately became a title because it was so damn funny.

I think a lot of newer titles suffer from the fact that the site is a lot larger than it used to be, and a lot older. It's harder for something to be unique and memorable, and even if it is the larger user base means that many people may still not be genuinely familiar. Many of the older titles if you look at them are really innocuous stuff that happens all the time. But when the site is only 200 people, you can be the "self vote day 1 guy" and end up with a title for it. Theres even an instance of a title for "hitting the eligible title threshold." Simply put, we complain about how all the recent titles suck, but if you look at a lot of the old titles (especially the super old titles) they also suck. We have a long history of shitty titles on this site. The difference is that we don't have low hanging fruit anymore.

All this is to say that I don't feel a particular pull to the alisae nom, but also I think this idea that titles need to be super awesome is revisionist to begin with, and it becomes more difficult to come up with "good" titles than it used to be with each title we give. So sure, let them have it. Just not with rainbow text.

[Thestatusquo]

I mean for fucks sakes panzer, your original title was "pink kitty tank" or some shit like that because you had a kitten avatar for a while. Get off your elitism bruh.

[Thestatusquo]

I mean for fucks sakes panzer, your original title was "pink kitty tank" or some shit like that because you had a kitten avatar for a while. Get off your elitism bruh.

Yeah it's gone for a reason. And people legit tell me I should bring both the avatar and the title back all the time.

And Idk what's wrong with telling someone, "hey, you just got rid of a title you got like months ago that was a crappy joke you were running into the ground l, so let's not give you another title for the same reason that you're gonna give back in 6 months"

I had the pink kitten avatar for like 4 years. And I had the title for like 5-6 years. So if you want a bad title, commit to it for years than I'll consider being like "OK this guy needs a different bad title"

I mean sure, if you ignore completely the several paragraph response I made to that point in the post directly above the one you responded to.

But really my biggest dog in this fight is just that no matter what happens no one gets a rainbow title. Because that would make me have to ignore them and I dont really want to ignore alisae.

[Thestatusquo]

It's not rainbow specifically, its that the colors on the black background will naturally draw my eye and make the site harder to read.

It's the same reason I'm not a fan of gif avatars and colored text in signatures.

[Thestatusquo]

Although the many alternative colors of the rainbow ARE the most aggressive form of this, I would also be advocating for not having a title that is, say, green on black.

[Thestatusquo]

I think the rainbow text is actually the most Alisa part of the nom.

That might be true, but it does nothing to make it less terrible from a forum use perspective.

[Thestatusquo]

On the subject of rainbow and spoiler tags for titles (and this is just in general but I wanted to look into this some more ~for science~)

On mafblack, it looks like this:


On mafSilver, it looks like this:


So while its perfectly fine on mafblack, on mafsilver its kinda hard to see the c (MafSepia has the same problem)
This is mostly just a problem with the rainbow text and could be fixed based on how you configure it here
(my current settings are as follows
# of colors: 7
Color Preset: Rainbow
Colors (in order): #f00, #ff7f00, #ff0, #0f0, #0ff, #00f, #00f, #8b00ff)

Next, I don't exactly have screenshots, but ANY color over the spoiler tag actually looks terrible for mobile users, because the spoiler is so small, that spoiler tag won't cover the whole phrase.
it'll look something like this

l

o

l

b

a

l

a

n

c

e

Except of course the text will be smaller, but this should be close enough to demonstrate the problem with any color on spoiler tag.
I mean this COULD be solved with more code, but I think that could be a hassle.

The thing you call fine looks terrible and distracting to me. In fact, I hate when people talk in colored text on the forum in general because I find it VERY hard to read regardless of configuration, with rainbow being by far the worst. I've PMed several mods to tell them that I couldn't read their mod text before. Reading rainbow text is VERY difficult for me, and it is also very distracting.

Pedit: Yes. To your last post. Pls.

[Thestatusquo]

Also, the mobile thing you're discussing actually sounds like a CSS bug that we can fix pretty easily. Let me look into it.

[Thestatusquo]

I find small text to be worse for me.

Worse than what? In what context? Whats your point? I know its your shtick to be vague and non-sequitur but could you please try to be a little more focused when posting in serious parts of the site?

[Thestatusquo]

Visually

The context is reading text. Hardly non sequitur.

What is the relevance to this discussion? Are you suggesting that because reading small text is hard that reading rainbow text is fine? I don't understand your point. Mainly because you have not made it explicitly.

[Thestatusquo]

Heres a quick mock up I just did for a demonstration.

[Thestatusquo]

Also, panzer might want to pay close attention to the pronoun listed there for when he keeps referring to Alisae.

[Thestatusquo]

Also, panzer might want to pay close attention to the pronoun listed there for when he keeps referring to Alisae.

I don't care about what pronoun people refer me as, it used to be he
now its e
if you want to use she, that's ok too

Fair enough, my mistake. Sorry panzer!

[Thestatusquo]

It's almost like you don't know what you're talking about.

[Thestatusquo]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Theres a reason that serious discussion shouldn't have non-sequiturs and vague contentless points every other post. It's because its impossible to carry on a conversation if you keep getting bogged down with irrelevant sidebars. Annadog's shtick is to make posts like this, which is fine, but I wish she wouldn't do so in the non-gd/se parts of the forum.

If you have something to add, by all means add it. But stop interrupting a conversation about whether x thing is good to interject nonsense about not liking y.

[Thestatusquo]

who?

hi.

[Thestatusquo]

yes I definitely cant think of a better person to be in charge of deciding if a title makes sense within the context of the long history of our community than someone who has been here for approximately 5 minutes.

[Thestatusquo]

Motion to transfer BROseidon's title over to wraith.

[Thestatusquo]

Can't help but notice that this horrible and insulting title for me (when I already have a title I love) is coming from a person who regularly attacks me and has been seconded only by a person who has been repeatedly instructed to stop harassing me and has been banned 3 times for not following those instructions.

In other words, reject. Move along.

[Thestatusquo]

Is wraith specifically a supporter of Marxism? I thought he was more for like,, hardcore socialism yknow

Read approximately 30 seconds of his ISO.

[Thestatusquo]

That was a long winded no

Hence why I included the tldr.

[Thestatusquo]

Also I think this is just a really lazy alternative to just thinking up a new title for Wraith tbh

This is fair, I'm open to brainstorming about this, but I just want to reflect that the torch for "ranting about marxism" on the site has definitely been passed. This isn't really a thing bro does but is definitely a thing wraith does at any given opportunity.

[Thestatusquo]

Sure, so lets brainstorm. Theres a specific speakeasy post that I think sums up wraiths personality and I think would be a great jumping off point for thinking of a title, but I'm waiting on the user who posted it's permission to post it here.

[Thestatusquo]

ignore, pmed instead.

[Thestatusquo]

(To make it clear, nom Wraith for

On Your Marx

)

2nd

Alternatively, nom BRO and Wraith for

Groucho and Chico(/Zeppo/Gummo)

this is actually great.

2nd

bro gets the older one.

[Psyche]

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[Thestatusquo]

nominate papa zito for "doot"

[Thestatusquo]

Anti nom. Obviously. I'm not even going to explain it because o have all ready said why I would in the past

PSA: "anti-noms" are still not a thing

oooohhhhhh yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh

[Thestatusquo]

I actually legitimately think its hilarious for zito because he's kind of made it his shtick in this thread and other parts of the site to lobby for vonflare to get it.

[Thestatusquo]

vonflare nth'd it so I'd submit to you that your argument is invalid firebringer.

[Thestatusquo]

zito is the true doot.

you can't even spell papa zito without doot.

[Thestatusquo]

2nd

[Thestatusquo]

Doot is a dumb meme and a dumb title for anyone.

"i dont personally like it so i don't think anyone should."

[Thestatusquo]

Doot is a dumb meme and a dumb title for anyone.

"i doot personally like it so i don't think anyone should."

doot off.

[Thestatusquo]

doot

[Thestatusquo]

gotta hand out those qatars.

[Thestatusquo]

Nom Alisae for “Bad Title”

I actually kind of like this...

that way we don't have to keep changing their title to the bad ones they get periodically suggested for, we can just use it as a place holder for whatever joke is right now.

nth

[Thestatusquo]

re: current raybells debate:

I don't care one way or the other about lolbalance as a title, but for the love of god can it not be rainbow text if it goes through.

Also, my favorite titles are:
Thirteenthly
Did his job
It's pronounced "xalxe"
Friends Forever! <3
Princeton's Pride
mafi ascum
die suck die
GD is my wing/Best Man

I think they all share something in common, which is they are born from either one single memorable moment, which became a site meme on its own, which had a lot of staying power. That is to say, its not like "x thing happened" and then someone nominated it for a title, but rather something happened and it became a part of that users persona so that when it got nominated the response was "oh, thats perfect" not "is this even going to be a thing in 6 months?" OR it has been a consistent part of the users persona for a long time that it became part of what defined them. Kanye talks in broken words. PJ used to go on 1000 word rants in game. People always argued about how to pronounce xalxe.

The only notable exception to this on the list of titles I really like is friends forever, which is based on a particularly funny moment in a game and then immediately became a title because it was so damn funny.

I think a lot of newer titles suffer from the fact that the site is a lot larger than it used to be, and a lot older. It's harder for something to be unique and memorable, and even if it is the larger user base means that many people may still not be genuinely familiar. Many of the older titles if you look at them are really innocuous stuff that happens all the time. But when the site is only 200 people, you can be the "self vote day 1 guy" and end up with a title for it. Theres even an instance of a title for "hitting the eligible title threshold." Simply put, we complain about how all the recent titles suck, but if you look at a lot of the old titles (especially the super old titles) they also suck. We have a long history of shitty titles on this site. The difference is that we don't have low hanging fruit anymore.

All this is to say that I don't feel a particular pull to the alisae nom, but also I think this idea that titles need to be super awesome is revisionist to begin with, and it becomes more difficult to come up with "good" titles than it used to be with each title we give. So sure, let them have it. Just not with rainbow text.

[Thestatusquo]

Obligatory nomination for a worse title that derails the original's potential:

Nom Alisae for "Bad Joke Title"

.

also, lol.

[Thestatusquo]

I have some mastina thoughts if we can wait for some games to end first.

[Thestatusquo]

Nom mastina ->

Unabridged

I like this but also think it doesn't quite capture all that is mastina.

[Thestatusquo]

I would like to nominate spiffeh for "smooth criminal"

[Thestatusquo]

Report for bans unless title bans work differently.

I think psyche pretty much has free reign in this thread.