Mini 1968: Bread uPick: The Baker's Dozen: Endgame

[Creature]

I've been waiting for a month to vote a hydra in RvS.

VOTE: Wormhole

There we go

Forced.

VOTE: creature

Null.

I'm bready to play

Alright...

Actually VOTE: especiallythelies

Genuine.

VOTE: dreal. I'm explicitly not bready.

Smocaine-Indicative.

i dont know who to vote s:
omg

Null.

VOTE: gorkington
Use RNG.

Meh.

Actually VOTE: especiallythelies

why that instead of the other?

You-tried.

anyone want to rollclaim?

haha

Bad,

how about get baked with me?

Forced.

[Creature]

Btw, I'm a miller.

[Creature]

Not sure, does it count as copying?

[Creature]

Can you tell us flavor

Towny.

Do it and if you get modkilled then you get modkilled

Towny.

I'm bready to play

VOTE: drealmerz

Null.

Actually VOTE: especiallythelies

why that instead of the other?

he's a-skeered

hello again skitter!
VOTE: wormhole

Scummy.

omg
i think creature is town

Succesfully pocketed.

VOTE: gorkington
Use RNG.

what is rng

Meh.

Random number generator. Creature miller claim does look nice tbh.

Forced.

Do it and if you get modkilled then you get modkilled

Wolfy.

Nevermind, not forced.

[Creature]

Hopefully real isn't saying I never claim miller.

[Creature]

OK, and what about the claim makes him town? And why did you vote Dreal right after this post?

I have this tendency of townreading like every miller claim, maybe so does he.

[Creature]

The miller claim is null to me as it's easily something I can see being planned in the mafia thread.

If that was suggested, I would probably be posting:
"I don't think I'm the most suitable to make a miller claim and try to live until endgame"

[Creature]

The two wallposts Creature made so far seemed very unlike his normal posting

I start games in different ways, specially because I can post anything I want during the early game.

[Creature]

Why did you not give flavor? Paraphrasing is okay fyi it's in the op.

I was going to post the exact flavor though.

[Creature]

The drealmerz7 wagon is a good wagon to stay around. Not exactly because I scumread him...

[Creature]

Haven't decided whether it's towny or scummy.

[Creature]

Don't you think it's a good wagon though?

[Creature]

Smocaine, McMenno, Whemestar, Fenraiser

How would you rank from scummier to townier here?

[Creature]

The flavor is Not from around here.

[Creature]

and he implied that Creature strayed from their town meta.

He's obviously wrong.

[Creature]

It does not ring well. I can understand if Creature was straight up scumread by Wormhole, but I don't think a null read can give this type of response because it betrays too much concern of how people sees himself/herself, albeit very slight. There seems to be a bit of self-preservation thrown in there as well in the bolded lines.

What if I told you Wormhole doesn't scumread me?

[Creature]

I think Dreal plays this way both town and scum

This.

[Creature]

Post 98 is still a very very weird progression. 80 and 82 doesn't justify that at all.

[Creature]

drealmerz7

Smocaine, McMenno, Whemestar, Fenraiser

How would you rank from scummier to townier here?

[Creature]

Where's Firaja and CityElectric btw?

[Creature]

You agree you have a very weird progression?

[Creature]

That was the weird progression post I pointed out.

You went 180 over something that was actually false (me being scumread by Wormhole).

Where was I scumread by Wormhole btw?

[Creature]

Oh right.

I was saying in 82 that it could be easily planned, but I'm not the most suitable.

[Creature]

It's not necessarily self-preservation.

[Creature]

What would you call it from your POV?

Probably a reminder.

It can't be self-preservation because there was no threat of me being lynched.

[Creature]

VOTE: ETL

[Creature]

Not liking drealmerz7 here, it's not because of his wagon choices.

[Creature]

I mean not because of the wagons he oppose.

[Creature]

Anyone's gonna use finals as an excuse someday.

[Creature]

I know. Still, it's losing an entire mafia day, so why join?

[Creature]

Well, we got time to pressure someone else.

[Creature]

Inb4 everybody but my townreads have finals.

[Creature]

FYI, I may refrain from wagoning someone with finals rn but I won't give a free pass for this day.

[Creature]

I'm disappointed.

[Creature]

I don't think they should be given a free pass, but if they say something like 'v/la till Tuesday because of finals' or 'v/la weekends', I don't really see the point of pressuring them while they're gone if they're going to come back soonish and aren't lurking away a whole day phase.

We could pressure them when they come back.

[Creature]

slower than an broken car in a traffic jam

People decided to join games when they are busy.

[Creature]

VOTE: Fykus

This one hasn't said he had finals.

[Creature]

I mean, what's to lose for scum doing that if the site meta is for town to claim it out of the gate

It isn't as simple as just claiming miller.

[Creature]

Guys what’s your favorite anime?

Death Note

I've watched three other animes that go from meh to poor.

[Creature]

Town: Creature, wheme, gork [though I did not like his entrance post], Fen, and maybe Menno (some of these are townish, just grouping very broadly right now)

Good reads.

[Creature]

Firaja, Fykus, and City have been slanking I think.

What do you guys think of the Drealz situation right here?

Why did you only call out these three for lurking? There were more at this point. My predecessor for example.

Your predecessor was on finals (still don't do finals).

[Creature]

Chickadee L-3 Fykus, Smocaine, Fenraiser, Firebringer

Dayvig Chickadee wagon

[Creature]

I’m curious to see what his next post is.

Prodge.

[Creature]

Fykus also doesn't have any reason to not post.

Probably scum that don't know what to post.

[Creature]

Creature is null.

I'm taking that as an insult.

[Creature]

Is this a game with geriatric ruleset?

[Creature]

tbh CityElectric should replace out if he's going to stay 3+ days without posting.

[Creature]

or someone who's blatantly dodging the thread.

[Creature]

Hi Fykus, I'm seeing your name in the online list. Are you catching up soon? There are like 16 pages to catch up, it shouldn't be that hard.

[Creature]

Okay, Firebringer. Return to your pokeball.

[Creature]

VOTE: Chickadee

because Fykus wagon isn't being productive rn.

(still I may return to Fykus)

[Creature]

Fykus is my strongest candidate rn.

[Creature]

Maybe some town players still need to show they're town.

[Creature]

idk, have you taken BV into consideration?

[Creature]

I still think his play was pretty weak so far.

[Creature]

I know I'm not the type to have generic scumreads, but I'm leaning Chick + dreal + Fykus.

[Creature]

So you think Chickadee and Fykus could be partnered?

I don't see anything excluding that possibility.

Why Dreal?

He, like the others, feels weak on his responses and I remembered what his vote on me sounds like.

[Creature]

idk, have you taken BV into consideration?

I'm actually curious about this. I've barely posted in the game. How come you haven't called me out on it yet? Every other time we've played together, you've either voted me or drawn attention to the fact that I haven't posted much when I'm not at peak activity level.

Are you talking about me?

If yes, then I guess I mostly didn't notice you weren't posting much and/or didn't care.

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

[Creature]

My mother told me to pick the very best one, however I am stubborn so I choose Y-O-U

VOTE: dreal

[Creature]

What changed here?

When was the last time we played together? I guess I forgot I had to pressure you.

Did you think skitter's posts were very townie?

I'd remove the "very" here.

Regarding Dreal, what didn't you like about his push on you?

It's how I portray scum!him.

Any reason you prefer Dreal over Fykus at this point?

I'm not trying to lynch rn, just doing sorting.

[Creature]

and because Fykus wagon will be pretty unproductive, so I'm leaving him as a lynch if he doesn't do anything.

[Creature]

-snip-

In simple words, I'm not automated to do that every single game. I have plenty of reasons to not do that sometimes.

[Creature]

The reason this game is that I didn't feel paranoid.

[Creature]

Which wagon do you think would be productive?

[Creature]

I'm gonna assume Chickadee should've read a "friendly" in her role PM.

[Creature]

Fykus
drealmerz7
Gorkington
MisaTange

Chickadee

Whemestar

McMenno

CityElectric
Firebringer

Creature

Wormhole (skitter30 + BlackVoid)

Fenraiser

Smocaine

PoE's getting thinner, scum better do something quickly.

[Creature]

I'm afraid of the possibility of we not gaining anything from Fykus and he possibly flipping town that wasn't doing anything. So I'm giving him a time to do stuff before we return to him.

Meanwhile we can look for other scum.

[Creature]

We could try to sort other slots like MisaTange.

[Creature]

We can always return to Fykus.

[Creature]

Who do you suggest then?

[Creature]

MisaTange is online btw.

[Creature]

I guess we have reached the point of the game where we have a pretty good PoE and doesn't know what else to do.

[Creature]

I'm fine leaving our slot's vote on him while we wait for him to come do stuff. But I'm happy to discuss other reads. Why are you townreading McMenno and Smocaine?

Because meta I don't want to reveal rn.

[Creature]

Fair enough. I don't get the townreads on either of them though.

I'll see if I can solidify these reads.

[Creature]

BV, do you feel confident enough about Fykus?

[Creature]

I don't think it points anything.

[Creature]

I don't know how to sort Dunker rn.

[Creature]

Well, that was hammer.

[Creature]

Were you scum, Fykus?

[Creature]

VOTE: Dunker

[Creature]

I sees you posting elsewhere Creature. Help me lynch Dreal.

I thought I was already voting dreal.

Oh nvm

VOTE: dreal

[Creature]

Though, I'm ready to go back to Fykus/Dunk.

[Creature]

I guess the problem of this game is the lack of drama. Usually the bigger wagons are obvious mislynches and there's a whole lot of sorting, but apparently we haven't hit an obvious mislynch so far.

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

[Creature]

no i wasnt. goodluck i guess.

Hey, what do you think about this? Was it genuine?

[Creature]

I could use more opinions and ideas as the game feel very confusing right now.

I could say that same sentence to you.

[Creature]

I've been around my top three scum guesses (after I eliminated Chickadee), but I was unable to pick one.

[Creature]

Not really. I've read past mafia PTs of Fykus where he instructs his buddies to pretend like they are town when they are fake-hammered so it's certainly something I could see him doing as scum. If he was town, I'd expect some actual reads.

In that case:
His claim isn't that buyable;
He indeed hasn't shared anything that makes me believe he's town;
The only thing that made me hesitate on him was his 565.

[Creature]

I'm sorta surprised drealmerz hasn't put any fight before claiming either.

[Creature]

However, we can talk about townreads and see if we can solve this game through PoE.

[Creature]

I regret leaving the Fykus wagon, but atleast we gathered some more info.

VOTE: Fykus

[Creature]

I agree on both Smocaine and Chickadee.

[Creature]

I am unfortunately Town this game so my troll to try ratio is going to have to be better.

8:1
Instead of
10:1

How likely this is made of?

[Creature]

Uh, oh right.

vonflare game he did absolutely nothing, hence why I hesitated when he was doing stuff, even though very little, the first five pages.

[Creature]

Fykus lynch is most likely to give a good result.

[Creature]

Yeah, I guess we finished today's day and tomorrow we should be refreshed.

[Creature]

I like easy wins.

[Creature]

I didn't pay much attention the setup.