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Post Post #12  (isolation #0)  » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:41 am

In post 2, MisaTange wrote:I've been waiting for a month to vote a hydra in RvS.

VOTE: Wormhole

There we go

Forced.
In post 3, Fykus wrote:VOTE: creature

Null.
In post 4, drealmerz7 wrote:I'm bready to play

Alright...
In post 5, Fykus wrote:Actually VOTE: especiallythelies

Genuine.
In post 6, Smocaine wrote:VOTE: dreal. I'm explicitly not bready.

Smocaine-Indicative.
In post 7, Gorkington wrote:i dont know who to vote s:
omg

Null.
In post 8, Fenraiser wrote:VOTE: gorkington
Use RNG.

Meh.
In post 9, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 5, Fykus wrote:Actually VOTE: especiallythelies

why that instead of the other?

You-tried.
In post 10, drealmerz7 wrote:anyone want to rollclaim?

haha

Bad,
In post 11, drealmerz7 wrote:how about get baked with me?

Forced.
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Post Post #13  (isolation #1)  » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:45 am

Btw, I'm a miller.
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Post Post #15  (isolation #2)  » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:57 am

Not sure, does it count as copying?
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Post Post #24  (isolation #3)  » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:14 am

In post 14, WhemeStar wrote:Can you tell us flavor

Towny.
In post 16, WhemeStar wrote:Do it and if you get modkilled then you get modkilled

Towny.
In post 17, McMenno wrote:
In post 4, drealmerz7 wrote:I'm bready to play

VOTE: drealmerz

Null.
In post 18, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 9, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 5, Fykus wrote:Actually VOTE: especiallythelies

why that instead of the other?

he's a-skeered :lol:

hello again skitter!
VOTE: wormhole

Scummy.
In post 19, Gorkington wrote:omg
i think creature is town

Succesfully pocketed.
In post 20, Gorkington wrote:
In post 8, Fenraiser wrote:VOTE: gorkington
Use RNG.

what is rng

Meh.
In post 21, Fenraiser wrote:Random number generator. Creature miller claim does look nice tbh.

Forced.
In post 22, Fenraiser wrote:
In post 16, WhemeStar wrote:Do it and if you get modkilled then you get modkilled

Wolfy.

Nevermind, not forced.
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Post Post #69  (isolation #4)  » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:14 pm

Hopefully real isn't saying I never claim miller.
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Post Post #80  (isolation #5)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:31 am

In post 70, Wormhole wrote:OK, and what about the claim makes him town? And why did you vote Dreal right after this post?

I have this tendency of townreading like every miller claim, maybe so does he.
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Post Post #82  (isolation #6)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:34 am

In post 73, Wormhole wrote:The miller claim is null to me as it's easily something I can see being planned in the mafia thread.

If that was suggested, I would probably be posting:
"I don't think I'm the most suitable to make a miller claim and try to live until endgame"
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Post Post #83  (isolation #7)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:35 am

In post 73, Wormhole wrote:The two wallposts Creature made so far seemed very unlike his normal posting

I start games in different ways, specially because I can post anything I want during the early game.
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Post Post #84  (isolation #8)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:37 am

In post 79, Fenraiser wrote:Why did you not give flavor? Paraphrasing is okay fyi it's in the op.

I was going to post the exact flavor though.
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Post Post #85  (isolation #9)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:39 am

The drealmerz7 wagon is a good wagon to stay around. Not exactly because I scumread him...
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Post Post #87  (isolation #10)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:48 am

Haven't decided whether it's towny or scummy.
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Post Post #89  (isolation #11)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:49 pm

Don't you think it's a good wagon though?
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Post Post #91  (isolation #12)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:20 pm

In post 75, jjh927 wrote:Smocaine, McMenno, Whemestar, Fenraiser

How would you rank from scummier to townier here?
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Post Post #95  (isolation #13)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:38 pm

The flavor is Not from around here.
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Post Post #103  (isolation #14)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:32 pm

In post 98, Fenraiser wrote:and he implied that Creature strayed from their town meta.

He's obviously wrong.
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Post Post #104  (isolation #15)  » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:33 pm

In post 98, Fenraiser wrote:It does not ring well. I can understand if Creature was straight up scumread by Wormhole, but I don't think a null read can give this type of response because it betrays too much concern of how people sees himself/herself, albeit very slight. There seems to be a bit of self-preservation thrown in there as well in the bolded lines.

What if I told you Wormhole doesn't scumread me?
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Post Post #116  (isolation #16)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:46 am

In post 111, WhemeStar wrote:I think Dreal plays this way both town and scum

This.
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Post Post #117  (isolation #17)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:48 am

Post 98 is still a very very weird progression. 80 and 82 doesn't justify that at all.
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Post Post #118  (isolation #18)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:48 am

drealmerz7
In post 91, Creature wrote:
In post 75, jjh927 wrote:Smocaine, McMenno, Whemestar, Fenraiser

How would you rank from scummier to townier here?
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Post Post #119  (isolation #19)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:53 am

Where's Firaja and CityElectric btw?
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Post Post #122  (isolation #20)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:46 am

You agree you have a very weird progression?
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Post Post #124  (isolation #21)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:43 pm

That was the weird progression post I pointed out.

You went 180 over something that was actually false (me being scumread by Wormhole).

Where was I scumread by Wormhole btw?
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Post Post #126  (isolation #22)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:54 pm

Oh right.

I was saying in 82 that it could be easily planned, but I'm not the most suitable.
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Post Post #127  (isolation #23)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:55 pm

It's not necessarily self-preservation.
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Post Post #131  (isolation #24)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:51 pm

In post 128, Fenraiser wrote:What would you call it from your POV?

Probably a reminder.

It can't be self-preservation because there was no threat of me being lynched.
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Post Post #133  (isolation #25)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:49 pm

VOTE: ETL
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Post Post #144  (isolation #26)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:48 pm

Not liking drealmerz7 here, it's not because of his wagon choices.
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Post Post #145  (isolation #27)  » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:49 pm

I mean not because of the wagons he oppose.
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Post Post #153  (isolation #28)  » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:20 am

Anyone's gonna use finals as an excuse someday.
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Post Post #158  (isolation #29)  » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:54 pm

I know. Still, it's losing an entire mafia day, so why join?
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Post Post #163  (isolation #30)  » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:00 pm

Well, we got time to pressure someone else.
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Post Post #164  (isolation #31)  » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:00 pm

Inb4 everybody but my townreads have finals.
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Post Post #180  (isolation #32)  » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:52 am

FYI, I may refrain from wagoning someone with finals rn but I won't give a free pass for this day.
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Post Post #183  (isolation #33)  » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:54 am

I'm disappointed.
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Post Post #222  (isolation #34)  » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:19 pm

In post 189, Wormhole wrote:I don't think they should be given a free pass, but if they say something like 'v/la till Tuesday because of finals' or 'v/la weekends', I don't really see the point of pressuring them while they're gone if they're going to come back soonish and aren't lurking away a whole day phase.

We could pressure them when they come back.
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Post Post #223  (isolation #35)  » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:22 pm

In post 205, McMenno wrote:slower than an broken car in a traffic jam

People decided to join games when they are busy.
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Post Post #226  (isolation #36)  » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:24 pm

VOTE: Fykus

This one hasn't said he had finals.
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Post Post #306  (isolation #37)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:28 am

In post 260, drealmerz7 wrote:I mean, what's to lose for scum doing that if the site meta is for town to claim it out of the gate

It isn't as simple as just claiming miller.
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Post Post #307  (isolation #38)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:29 am

In post 264, Firebringer wrote:Guys what’s your favorite anime?

Death Note

I've watched three other animes that go from meh to poor.
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Post Post #308  (isolation #39)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:30 am

In post 269, Chickadee wrote:Town: Creature, wheme, gork [though I did not like his entrance post], Fen, and maybe Menno (some of these are townish, just grouping very broadly right now)

Good reads.
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Post Post #309  (isolation #40)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:31 am

In post 274, Chickadee wrote:
In post 93, Fenraiser wrote:Firaja, Fykus, and City have been slanking I think.

What do you guys think of the Drealz situation right here?

Why did you only call out these three for lurking? There were more at this point. My predecessor for example.

Your predecessor was on finals (still don't do finals).
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Post Post #310  (isolation #41)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:34 am

In post 300, jjh927 wrote:Chickadee L-3 Fykus, Smocaine, Fenraiser, Firebringer

Dayvig Chickadee wagon
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Post Post #316  (isolation #42)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:42 am

In post 315, Chickadee wrote:I’m curious to see what his next post is.

Prodge.
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Post Post #320  (isolation #43)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:08 pm

Fykus also doesn't have any reason to not post.

Probably scum that don't know what to post.
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Post Post #361  (isolation #44)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:33 am

In post 351, Fenraiser wrote:Creature is null.

I'm taking that as an insult.
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Post Post #365  (isolation #45)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:29 pm

Is this a game with geriatric ruleset?
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Post Post #366  (isolation #46)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:31 pm

tbh CityElectric should replace out if he's going to stay 3+ days without posting.
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Post Post #369  (isolation #47)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:14 pm

or someone who's blatantly dodging the thread.
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Post Post #382  (isolation #48)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:08 pm

Hi Fykus, I'm seeing your name in the online list. Are you catching up soon? There are like 16 pages to catch up, it shouldn't be that hard.
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Post Post #384  (isolation #49)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:17 pm

Okay, Firebringer. Return to your pokeball.
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Post Post #412  (isolation #50)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:34 am

VOTE: Chickadee

because Fykus wagon isn't being productive rn.

(still I may return to Fykus)
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Post Post #414  (isolation #51)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:19 am

Fykus is my strongest candidate rn.
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Post Post #415  (isolation #52)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:19 am

Maybe some town players still need to show they're town.
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Post Post #425  (isolation #53)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:08 pm

idk, have you taken BV into consideration?
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Post Post #426  (isolation #54)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:09 pm

I still think his play was pretty weak so far.
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Post Post #433  (isolation #55)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:21 pm

I know I'm not the type to have generic scumreads, but I'm leaning Chick + dreal + Fykus.
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Post Post #435  (isolation #56)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:27 pm

In post 434, Wormhole wrote:So you think Chickadee and Fykus could be partnered?

I don't see anything excluding that possibility.

Why Dreal?

He, like the others, feels weak on his responses and I remembered what his vote on me sounds like.
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Post Post #448  (isolation #57)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:20 pm

In post 439, Wormhole wrote:
In post 425, Creature wrote:idk, have you taken BV into consideration?

I'm actually curious about this. I've barely posted in the game. How come you haven't called me out on it yet? Every other time we've played together, you've either voted me or drawn attention to the fact that I haven't posted much when I'm not at peak activity level.

Are you talking about me?

If yes, then I guess I mostly didn't notice you weren't posting much and/or didn't care.
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Post Post #449  (isolation #58)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:20 pm

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #450  (isolation #59)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:23 pm

My mother told me to pick the very best one, however I am stubborn so I choose Y-O-U

VOTE: dreal
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Post Post #455  (isolation #60)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:30 pm

In post 452, Wormhole wrote:What changed here?

When was the last time we played together? I guess I forgot I had to pressure you.

Did you think skitter's posts were very townie?

I'd remove the "very" here.

Regarding Dreal, what didn't you like about his push on you?

It's how I portray scum!him.

Any reason you prefer Dreal over Fykus at this point?

I'm not trying to lynch rn, just doing sorting.
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Post Post #456  (isolation #61)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:30 pm

and because Fykus wagon will be pretty unproductive, so I'm leaving him as a lynch if he doesn't do anything.
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Post Post #461  (isolation #62)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:49 pm

In post 458, Wormhole wrote:-snip-

In simple words, I'm not automated to do that every single game. I have plenty of reasons to not do that sometimes.
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Post Post #462  (isolation #63)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:50 pm

The reason this game is that I didn't feel paranoid.
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Post Post #464  (isolation #64)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:54 pm

Which wagon do you think would be productive?
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Post Post #467  (isolation #65)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:56 pm

I'm gonna assume Chickadee should've read a "friendly" in her role PM.
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Post Post #468  (isolation #66)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:00 pm

Fykus
drealmerz7
Gorkington
MisaTange
Chickadee
Whemestar
McMenno
CityElectric
Firebringer
Creature
Wormhole (skitter30 + BlackVoid)
Fenraiser
Smocaine

PoE's getting thinner, scum better do something quickly.
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Post Post #470  (isolation #67)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:05 pm

I'm afraid of the possibility of we not gaining anything from Fykus and he possibly flipping town that wasn't doing anything. So I'm giving him a time to do stuff before we return to him.

Meanwhile we can look for other scum.
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Post Post #476  (isolation #68)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:07 pm

We could try to sort other slots like MisaTange.
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Post Post #477  (isolation #69)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:07 pm

We can always return to Fykus.
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Post Post #479  (isolation #70)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:14 pm

Who do you suggest then?
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Post Post #481  (isolation #71)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:44 pm

MisaTange is online btw.
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Post Post #498  (isolation #72)  » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:36 pm

I guess we have reached the point of the game where we have a pretty good PoE and doesn't know what else to do.
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Post Post #518  (isolation #73)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:00 am

In post 471, Wormhole wrote:I'm fine leaving our slot's vote on him while we wait for him to come do stuff. But I'm happy to discuss other reads. Why are you townreading McMenno and Smocaine?

Because meta I don't want to reveal rn.
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Post Post #543  (isolation #74)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:58 am

In post 526, Wormhole wrote:Fair enough. I don't get the townreads on either of them though.

I'll see if I can solidify these reads.
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Post Post #544  (isolation #75)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:59 am

BV, do you feel confident enough about Fykus?
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Post Post #556  (isolation #76)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:52 pm

I don't think it points anything.
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Post Post #557  (isolation #77)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:52 pm

I don't know how to sort Dunker rn.
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Post Post #562  (isolation #78)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:08 pm

Well, that was hammer.
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Post Post #563  (isolation #79)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:08 pm

Were you scum, Fykus?
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Post Post #568  (isolation #80)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:45 pm

VOTE: Dunker
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Post Post #612  (isolation #81)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:40 pm

In post 609, Smocaine wrote:I sees you posting elsewhere Creature. Help me lynch Dreal.

I thought I was already voting dreal.

Oh nvm

VOTE: dreal
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Post Post #613  (isolation #82)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:41 pm

Though, I'm ready to go back to Fykus/Dunk.
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Post Post #618  (isolation #83)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:48 pm

I guess the problem of this game is the lack of drama. Usually the bigger wagons are obvious mislynches and there's a whole lot of sorting, but apparently we haven't hit an obvious mislynch so far.
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Post Post #671  (isolation #84)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:37 am

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #672  (isolation #85)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:38 am

In post 565, Fykus wrote:no i wasnt. goodluck i guess.

Hey, what do you think about this? Was it genuine?
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Post Post #674  (isolation #86)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:48 am

In post 673, Wormhole wrote:I could use more opinions and ideas as the game feel very confusing right now.

I could say that same sentence to you.
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Post Post #675  (isolation #87)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:48 am

I've been around my top three scum guesses (after I eliminated Chickadee), but I was unable to pick one.
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Post Post #676  (isolation #88)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:50 am

In post 673, Wormhole wrote:Not really. I've read past mafia PTs of Fykus where he instructs his buddies to pretend like they are town when they are fake-hammered so it's certainly something I could see him doing as scum. If he was town, I'd expect some actual reads.

In that case:
His claim isn't that buyable;
He indeed hasn't shared anything that makes me believe he's town;
The only thing that made me hesitate on him was his 565.
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Post Post #677  (isolation #89)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:53 am

I'm sorta surprised drealmerz hasn't put any fight before claiming either.
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Post Post #678  (isolation #90)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:53 am

However, we can talk about townreads and see if we can solve this game through PoE.
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Post Post #680  (isolation #91)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:00 am

I regret leaving the Fykus wagon, but atleast we gathered some more info.

VOTE: Fykus
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Post Post #681  (isolation #92)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:00 am

I agree on both Smocaine and Chickadee.
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Post Post #682  (isolation #93)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:01 am

In post 172, Firebringer wrote:I am unfortunately Town this game so my troll to try ratio is going to have to be better.

8:1
Instead of
10:1

How likely this is made of?
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Post Post #684  (isolation #94)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:29 am

Uh, oh right.

vonflare game he did absolutely nothing, hence why I hesitated when he was doing stuff, even though very little, the first five pages.
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Post Post #691  (isolation #95)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:36 pm

Fykus lynch is most likely to give a good result.
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Post Post #712  (isolation #96)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:02 pm

Yeah, I guess we finished today's day and tomorrow we should be refreshed.
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Post Post #1227  (isolation #97)  » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:47 pm

I like easy wins.
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Post Post #1232  (isolation #98)  » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:30 pm

I didn't pay much attention the setup.
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