Mini 1968: Bread uPick: The Baker's Dozen: Endgame

[Smocaine]

VOTE: dreal. I'm explicitly not bready.

[Smocaine]

Dreal's vote is bad

[Smocaine]

Creature's posts were good, so ya

[Smocaine]

omfg

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY WERE GOOD?!?!

are ppl not joining noob games to learn how to play?

Please, I'll run yin yang circles around you kid.

[Smocaine]

This post is a town soft.

[Smocaine]

I really agree with post 82 though lol

[Smocaine]

Did you just vote town my guy?

[Smocaine]

Now was not the time to claim! That was obviously a fake soft. Learn to read tone.

[Smocaine]

but since that was a pretty townie fluke, I think I can trust you.

[Smocaine]

youre a cutesy person smocaine.
its too bad you rolled scum.
):

I don't know how to properly tell the town not to target me

[Smocaine]

Don't you mean opposite?

[Smocaine]

VOTE: especiallythelies. This dude has 3 posts and voted someone for adding a question mark to their post. I think that's scummy as hell.

[Smocaine]

you play in a way that makes them not want to...

egh

This post creeps me out because it feels like Dreal knows I'm town

[Smocaine]

But yes, more etl please

[Smocaine]

Yall like butter or cream cheese with your ETL toast? There is avacado, but that's mine and

none of you are allowed to touch it

.

[Smocaine]

But I definitely don't want a doctor on me. I'm feeling damned if I do, damned if I don't. Thoughts on this ETL wagon that's baking up fantastically?

[Smocaine]

no comment on the wagon?

[Smocaine]

Your vote was like, really bad.

[Smocaine]

The best wagons are fast.

[Smocaine]

Let us lynch ETL, so his mind can be 110% focused on his finals.

[Smocaine]

I recommend skipping your finals wheme.

[Smocaine]

I imagine Dreal has no finals to skip given his play so far.

[Smocaine]

CityElectric

Who dis?

[Smocaine]

I don't have finals. Miss me with that school shit. I skipped it and went straight to min wage.

[Smocaine]

I feel like Dreal contributions took a dip post dreal wagon. Finals?

[Smocaine]

I definitely won't give any information!

[Smocaine]

You guys are less than adequate at gleaning ai bits from the tone of others.

[Smocaine]

kind of feel like we should just lynch ETL slot after that, I thought he was participating well enough and I DIDN'T want to lynch there because at least he was generating content, but now, ugh

hate having so many replacements to sort and one like that could just die as far as I'm concerned but hey whatever

wish Day was shorter

Try this, we can be friends Dreal

[Smocaine]

Million Dollar Extreme

[Smocaine]

Welcome Chickadee. We are doing anime reads right now. What is your favorite anime?

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Chick You just claimed to have seen anime, but didn't list a favorite.

[Smocaine]

Just pick one. If you hate all of them equally, then any of the ones you have seen can be listed as a favorite.

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Fykus

[Smocaine]

vote fykus?

[Smocaine]

Back to the Dreal pile?

[Smocaine]

Can a doughball get more Chickadee votes? Or at the very least a vote on me, so I can reflexively wagon you.

[Smocaine]

I am the definition of not fun right now and I. Hate myself

ur tone is forced

[Smocaine]

Hi Fykus, I'm seeing your name in the online list. Are you catching up soon? There are like 16 pages to catch up, it shouldn't be that hard.

hey creature just caught up. I apologise everybody for being inactive, it was my last week of work this week so it was super busy and i couldnt be bothered to check in/do anything apart from prodge. Im here now though, im on holidays for 3 weeks so lets hooray.

hes a shit readslist:

Creature - miller
Firebringer Firaja
Wormhole (skitter30 + BlackVoid)
Fenraiser

Gorkington
MisaTange
Whemestar
McMenno
CityElectric

chickadee
drealmerz7
Smocaine

obviously none of it is in order. give me a minute ive got evidence of chickadee scum though.

I'm bussing my whole team wheeeeeeeeeeeee

[Smocaine]

Oh yea, I quoted and meant to comment - Smocaine, what do you mean by dough ball?

It's a bread themed game

[Smocaine]

may b.

[Smocaine]

fb drives a nice car.

[Smocaine]

With kickass rims

[Smocaine]

Do you really care which gets the rope?

[Smocaine]

Vote chickadee

[Smocaine]

Okay, I'll be here all day so I want to get as many real time interactions in as possible.

Regarding Fykus, I also wanted to add - the entire readslist feels fake. Uncritically accepting Creature as town because he claimed miller I think is a read scum are more likely to have because they already know the answer and don't need to question anything. I also found the Drealmerz and Chickadee reads opportunistic since they've both attracted a certain amount of pressure and have been in the spotlight and the reasoning for the Chickadee read is really weak. I don't see why her reaction is "over the top" and I think it's perfectly reasonable to be surprised to be put at L-1. It felt like Fykus just threw it out there to justify his vote.

@Smociane, why do you want to lynch Chickadee over Fykus?

-BlackVoid

ETL voted someone for using a question mark and dressed it up all cute and pretty. Chicka refused to engage my anime read.

[Smocaine]

VOTE: chickadee

I'm having trouble believing that townread on me is genuine.

why?

I'm bussing my whole team wheeeeeeeeeeeee

i dont really understand the point of this.
every time you scumread two people, do you erase your read on one of them because you dont think they can be partners?

Maybe it's something the guy hasn't considered.

[Smocaine]

loud scum docter, calling it now. Chicka has been a toss up, so the sr still stands. She also knows that she would fail my anime read.

[Smocaine]

I'm a loud something, but Ima sit on the neighbor part because that is important to keep secret for all of a night phase.

yeah, no

[Smocaine]

oh I see neighbors claim friendly neighor more often than seeing actual friendly neighbors. Ehh, I guess I could let it live.

[Smocaine]

UNVOTE:

[Smocaine]

VOTE: fykus

[Smocaine]

I'm actually curious about this. I've barely posted in the game. How come you haven't called me out on it yet? Every other time we've played together, you've either voted me or drawn attention to the fact that I haven't posted much when I'm not at peak activity level.

is this blackvoid? if so how is it reasonable to expect creature to pursue you as a single head of a hydra where the other head has been active for not being active? I didn't really look at which head was posting what and I don't see creature as the kind of person to really pay attention to that either so what gives here?

oh I see neighbors claim friendly neighor more often than seeing actual friendly neighbors. Ehh, I guess I could let it live.

can you clarify this sentence please

I've never played with a friendly neighbor. I've played at least two games where a neighbor claims friendly neighbor on accident, so I misread Chick's claim at first.

[Smocaine]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: fykus

Why, after my claim, did you invite fykus, only to revote fykus?

I thought I was voting you, go figure.

[Smocaine]

Hear that Dreal? Vote Fykus

Wormwhole, how much is Skitskit posting?

[Smocaine]

Creature has never misread me. Trust this blue thing

[Smocaine]

I think you're reading into Dunker words too closely here.

[Smocaine]

The 'not having to worry' comment is perfectyl nai and doesn't contradict his replace in. I don't want to respond to the other stuff for him, but his posts have been consistent imo.

[Smocaine]

Fykus do you know skitter? That 'appeasement' sr is odd.

[Smocaine]

ehhhhh I disagree.

[Smocaine]

It just is bro. Who doesn't want a flip for Christmas?

[Smocaine]

Talk to me about your other sr's. What's shaking?

[Smocaine]

My problem with dunkers catch up is that he said 1 of 4 people could be scum, and listed his own slot in the list.

Because that is

so

scummy. The dunker wagon is a stinker, and I'll be having no part in it.

[Smocaine]

I'm leaning much more towards that being a fake-claim. Fykus fake-claimed Jailkeeper the last time we played and he was scum against me: viewtopic.php?p=8815823#p8815823

- BV

Why does scum!fykus make the same fakeclaim here?

JJH do scum have fakeclaims?

[Smocaine]

Nevermind, the flavor is bread. People can just make up whatever the fuck. Just answer for me please Wormhole.

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Dreal Wheme if you're town, you will come vote this again.

[Smocaine]

oh and also wormhole

Wormhole is town. Also, vote Dreal if you want to live.

[Smocaine]

Dunker, how much have you read?

[Smocaine]

It's more likely Fykus is a scum jk than fake claiming it, if he's scum at all. Dreal has been a nonentity for at least a week. He stopped playing the game when pressured. That is not what I'd expect from town, especially town!Dreal.

[Smocaine]

Random number generator. Creature miller claim does look nice tbh.

what, why?

no it doesn't especially after asked for flavor and he didn't

fuck that shit it's scummy as fuck especially from creature VOTE: creature

The especially from Creature bit here is obviously tacked on. He never explained why that was specifically scummy

from

Creature. This is especially bad when you consider that the opposite of what he said is true if you look at Creature's meta.

it looks nice?!?!? what does that even mean? you're just making a general statement that has no application to this game

Ignores the content that explains the "it looks nice" part to throw shade.

you play in a way that makes them not want to...

egh

This post creeps me out because it feels like Dreal knows I'm town

it's refering to the General Yu, as in, if one is town and wants town to not visit them, they should play in such a way to make that happen

He knows I'm town.

I really hate miller claims from town btw I think it is a terrible way to play it so am just inclined to think it is a scum who is trying to get away with shit

I mean, what's to lose for scum doing that if the site meta is for town to claim it out of the gate

anyway, it's HOW creature did it that makes me scumlean him up through that point that I voted him, combined with his short answers in that wallpost that to me were just easy/convenient LAMIST comments, for the most part - toneread him scum really hard up through that, and the "ohyah I'm miller" is blehhhhhh

He knows the miller claim is from town.

btw wheme you shouldn't be trying to generate a read from what I've given really at this point, better to focus on other things

eesh

Nothing to see here lol.

[Smocaine]

anyway, not so interested increature atm smocaine or mcmenno or wheme are good

wheme's always good to lynch though

Weakass scumreads on slots that are routinely safe to push in every game. What he doesn't know is that we're actually impossible to lynch.

[Smocaine]

It's more likely Fykus is a scum jk than fake claiming it, if he's scum at all. Dreal has been a nonentity for at least a week.

He stopped playing the game when pressured. That is not what I'd expect from town, especially town!Dreal.

For emphasis

[Smocaine]

I think you'll probably have more fun playing with me if you don't try to push me around. I do think it's really weird that Dunker never even bothered to comment on the claim and just put down a vote. But the way Fykus claimed and his reaction to being hammered was pretty bad. No final reads or suggestions on who to lynch next. Our conundrum is mostly that they both seem scummy but it would be rather odd for them to be partners.

-BV

Except i wasnt hammered.

smocaine is town, worm is scum. dreal is scum by the go of smocaines case on him.
Before you (worm) start carrying on at me asking for an explanation as to why i think you're scum, its mostly just a gut/tone thing from the last page of your responses. it feels a bit off to me.

Vote Dreal please.

It's more likely Fykus is a scum jk than fake claiming it, if he's scum at all. Dreal has been a nonentity for at least a week. He stopped playing the game when pressured. That is not what I'd expect from town, especially town!Dreal.

So you're saying that this is kinda characteristic behavior for scum!dreal? Or just that he doesn't match his town meta?

The latter, obviously. What are you getting at?

[Smocaine]

I sees you posting elsewhere Creature. Help me lynch Dreal.

[Smocaine]

No, a hydra. Me (skitter30) and blackvoid.

Sorry that's what I meant

If you somehow missed Worm being a hydra when they mention each other in every post, you relinquish your voting privileges for the day. Just sign that bitch over to me, and I'll keep it nice and warm for you on the Dreal wagon.

[Smocaine]

The latter, obviously. What are you getting at?

Honestly, I'm not sure. I think I *was* getting at something, but I'm not sure what exactly atm.

Neither of us much like your Dreal wagon tbh. I'm pretty sure that {dunk/fykus} contains scum, so I wanna stay on those wagons.

--s

Do you not like it because of what I'm pushing or because of the timing of the wagon?

[Smocaine]

/sigh

[Smocaine]

He said he wanted reasons so he could argue/pop off like he normally does when wagoned (his words from this game. I don't have much of a Dreal metagame). I break my self imposed never case rule for him, and he goes off to post in some other game. Meta or no meta, his response to pressure this game has been underwhelming.

[Smocaine]

Game starts > Dreal plays and makes fun > Dreal gets wagoned > Dreal fucks off and stops playing > wagon forms elsewhere > a wild Dreal appears > joins both of the larger wagons > wagon comes back to Dreal > The wild Dreal used teleport

[Smocaine]

I'm generally a good wagon because I generate a lot of content when wagoned and that is good

but this wagon is really weaksauce and 1/4 at the page top VC are very very very likely scum

I'm practically drowning in all this content Dreal is providing.

[Smocaine]

L-2 boys. It's still not too late to invest in the Dreal wagon. Drealmerz7 votes are the currency of the future.

[Smocaine]

Buy buy buy

[Smocaine]

I knew FB would be dumb enough to buy high.

[Smocaine]

In case we reach the night phase before I wake up, be sure to skim my iso replacements

[Smocaine]

7's are lucky. My dog Lucky died when he was 7. Sven Kramer is the goat speed skater. It takes 7 to lynch. Drealmerz7.

Speed lynch Dreal.

[Smocaine]

Votecount 1.07

Fykus	L-2	Gorkington, Creature, McMenno, Smocaine, Whemestar
Chickadee	L-4	Fykus, Fenraiser, Firebringer
Fenraiser	L-5	Wormhole, Chickadee
Smocaine	L-6	drealmerz
Firebringer	L-6	MisaTange
Not Voting	---	CityElectric

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to lynch.

The lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-12-28 02:15:00).

Phonevotecount, apologies if I made any clumsy errors and for lack of pagetop timing.

egh

VOTE: fenraiser

let's just kill something

[Smocaine]

Fykus makes for a likely Drealmerz partner. I'm not going to lose any sleep is we lynch him. Dunker was getting pushed for his replace in alone pretty much. As someone who straight up doesn't read on replacing in and who has called my own slot scummy on replace in one of the few times I did read, Dunk is more of a null read. I've gotten the same bs on replacing in when it should be nai, and we have a day filled with scumfuckery. I wanted to use that as opposed to an overreaction to a yet to be engaged replace in.

I'm more confident in Drealmerz7 than I am in Fykus. I have no issues waiting for more input, but we are lynching in Dreal/Fykus. No more claims.

[Smocaine]

Ecto, reading from front to back, you do realize why your point was more of a "you" problem, ya?

[Smocaine]

and we should lynch someone who actually has readable content and associations

sick of ppl dragging on D1s so much, jumping around like they're fucking goldielocks

ppl talk a bit, find a good lynch (meaning 1 that will tell you a good amount that seems possible to be scum), lynch it, D1 over

Examples, give me an example of who that would be, and something good might happen for you.

[Smocaine]

So I wasn't sure why you were backing Dunk here, but this post kinda makes your Dunk townread click for me, and I now have you as town too.

So my problem with Dunk isn't really his replace-in, or the fact that he called his own slot scummy. I don't especially like it, but it's pretty much NAI for me.

What I don't like with him is that he appears to be itching to hammer like anything that gets within hammering range (fykus and dreal); it makes me feel like he doesn't really care *who* flips or why, just that a lynch happens already. I also don't like the fact that he randomly kinda softed.

Also, did you notice that both dunk and fykus are tying you to a dreal lynch and are justifying the lynch because of your push?

agree with smocaine dreal is a good lynch

smocaine is town, worm is scum. dreal is scum by the go of smocaines case on him.

And I understand why you don't like dreal based on your experience with him; that's kinda where I'm coming from on Fykus. He just feels really weird in comparison to past games with him.

Again, it's not really a townread on Dunk, but I had issues with the wagon and didn't see scum motivation outside of pushing a lynch for the sake of it (spoiler: town does that too). I want to be tied to a Dreal lynch, but yes I noticed the nature of their votes that I asked for. Dunk's 599 read like a nai sheep (if Dreal reds, then it looks pretty townie). The last sentence in Fykus' 601 pinged me because my case was more halfassed than this post. Couple that with me needing to prod Fykus for his Dreal vote and vice versa for Dreal's Fykus vote is what makes me think they could be scum together.

Small note: I don't have experience with Drealmerz7. I've only skimmed his iso is a couple of games after his self-meta post.

[Smocaine]

Not to say I don't have investigative power, but gee I sure hope Gork and to a lesser extent fb/mcmenno get sorted

somehow

.

[Smocaine]

Why'd you think I was scum earlier bb?

[Smocaine]

Whemestar, do you consider yourself funny?

[Smocaine]

I'm taking that as a yes.

[Smocaine]

You told me to stop flirting with you. ;_;

[Smocaine]

I'm heart broken.

[Smocaine]

lol

[Smocaine]

I would vote Dreal, but I don't want to be the closest to that moldy bread. Consider my vote there though.

[Smocaine]

Chick why did you pick Dreal?

[Smocaine]

):

[Smocaine]

i might actually be able to semi confirm myself with my claim but idk

Claim then

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Dreal because I want fb to shoot me.

[Smocaine]

Chick, you were willing to lynch Dreal yesterday. Now is the time for action!

[Smocaine]

Stop Fishy

[Smocaine]

Drealbux:
Dreal

I won't lose any sleep:
Gork
Dunk

Not lynching:
It's secret

[Smocaine]

wHEME, YOUR READ ON ME BB?

[Smocaine]

Wheme your read on me?

caps lock

[Smocaine]

Is it red?

[Smocaine]

Stop Fishy

I don't remember you doing like anything this dayphase.

So?

[Smocaine]

Motion detect can be scum or a scum rolecop fakeclaim?

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Fishy Dreal is sus and the fact that no one wants to lynch him despite being everyone's secondary pick last phase is also sus. It's not happening, so I'm cool to lynch the Ectomancer slot.

[Smocaine]

ITT I overpromise and underdeliver.

Let's try a different strategy! Read nothing! Vote everything!

WhemeStar talk to me about why you arrived at the point where you feel that saying "Let's just kill someone" was an advisable post?

pointless shade ^

Okay so I'm rolling along kind of reading backwards and feeling a bit lazy. I noticed that we have a couple claims? I think? Anyhow I was thinking "You know Smocaine is looking pretty town, let's call that out and ask for a synopsis from the town in general about these claims."

And then I see this post from Smocaine and start to both panic and get a bit pissed. Because it appears to show less than 21 hours before a deadline and it was a quote!

But it isn't true. I've posted the most recent one that I could find it it has 2 days and 21 hours.

This is what I call putting false pressure on the town. I don't know if it was intentional because it was a nested quote? But I am not happy about it and very much point a

fos

at Smocaine. Why? Because even though it isn't actually the most recent deadline post when you look at the vote count, it still gave ME that impression from a quick once over and DID give me a jolt and want to hurry up and do something before deadline.

Votecount 1.07

Fykus	L-2	Gorkington, Creature, McMenno, Smocaine, Whemestar
Chickadee	L-4	Fykus, Fenraiser, Firebringer
Fenraiser	L-5	Wormhole, Chickadee
Smocaine	L-6	drealmerz
Firebringer	L-6	MisaTange
Not Voting	---	CityElectric

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to lynch.

The lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-12-28 02:15:00).

Phonevotecount, apologies if I made any clumsy errors and for lack of pagetop timing.

egh

VOTE: fenraiser

let's just kill something

Votecount 1.10

drealmerz7	L-3	Smocaine, Dunkerdoodles, Creature, Fykus
Dunkerdoodles	L-4	Chickadee, Firebringer, Wormhole
Fykus	L-4	McMenno, drealmerz, Whemestar
Chickadee	L-6	Gorkington
Firebringer	L-6	MisaTange
Not Voting	---	Ectomancer

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to lynch.

The lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-12-30 02:15:00).

This isn't a town mindset lol.

[Smocaine]

Yeah, so calling it "the Ectomancer slot" and quoting two posts only from Ecto when I've now produced the majority of the slot's content is ridiculous. It feels like I've replaced in to your designated mislynch and you want to ignore that.
1) Ecto's first post you quote is not shade. It's a reasonable question.
2) Ecto's second post is weird, sure. Why would scum post it? If you don't have an answer, it's a weirdtell, not a scumtell.
3) What about my play?

I quoted 2/3rds of the man's iso. If I had a 'designated mislynch' it would be Dreal given my set up.
1) The question paints Wheme in a scummy light regardless of his answer, and Ecto didn't press Wheme for an answer to it despite him ignoring it.

ITT I overpromise and underdeliver.

Let's try a different strategy! Read nothing! Vote everything!

WhemeStar talk to me about why you arrived at the point where you feel that saying "Let's just kill someone"

was an advisable post

?

1.5) The phrasing here looks like someone approaching the game from a scum mindset.
2) Scum that was struggling to produce content saw an opportunity to 'jump' on something? It's also off that he goes from saying "vote everyone" in 622 to making a large post to only fos me. His play is too cautious for my liking.
3) I honestly haven't focused most of your content, but it didn't scream town outside of the volume of words in your posts. Would you say that's outside of your scumrange?

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Fishy Dreal is sus and the fact that no one wants to lynch him despite being everyone's secondary pick last phase is also sus. It's not happening, so I'm cool to lynch the Ectomancer slot.

dreal kind of seems better with the context that he was trying to underplay because of his role to stay alive. his play today has been closer to what ive expected from town him, especially the firebringer vote.
can you talk to me about mcmenno and the posts i pulled?

Mcmenno is a tough read. I doubt McMenno expects to spearhead a lynch on someone not being wagoned and iirc Mistange flew under the radar the second half of the day. I think those posts could go either way.

[Smocaine]

"Putting false pressure on the town" sounds like something genuinely scummy. Also, ehhh

[Smocaine]

Do you think dreal is town fishy?

[Smocaine]

intent

claimaroo

[Smocaine]

Looking back through, I'm thinking Fish could be town. My one concern still lingering is that they have pretty safe reads. But they're not the only ones this could be said for.
However, Fish did a really good job of looking at everyone during their catch up, and since. They poked where they saw warrant to poke, and they've been extremely active in conversations.

My gut is telling me Gork and Fish are both town.

VOTE: McMenno

Thats L-1

Ecto did a very good job of scumclaiming in their 3 posts, discuss.

[Smocaine]

I want a Fish/Dreal lynch tomorrow if this doesn't red. I'll even lolhammer if I can get some commitment here for my cause.

[Smocaine]

One more person tempt me with a post like #1109 and Ima do it.

[Smocaine]

Worm, going into day 2 on a town flip on mcmenno, who would you help me lynch out of Dreal/Fishy?

[Smocaine]

*day 3

Who is talking right now

pedit

[Smocaine]

Someone said something about the mod likely not having foresight to counteract town jk + tracker being broken. However, the fact that they are both two shot is sort of proof that they did in fact think of that because odds are both would not have any lategame power, especially not at the same time. That's the main thing making me hesitant about dreal and willing to push towards another slot I think just played like scum (ecto).

[Smocaine]

I stand corrected on dreal 2 shot lol

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Dreal I hear Drealbux are on the rise again.

[Smocaine]

I don't quite see why a scum tracker can't have a fakeclaim of a different role

[Smocaine]

triple intent

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Fishy

[Smocaine]

please note wormhole's attempts to stall the wagon and not giving a clear read on mcmenno and also not participating in the wagon

ps: im really sorry if you're town skitter and bv but i just have a feeling

Mcmenno purposefully avoided the thread when at L-1. I don't think scum stalls the wagon for a claim on a dead to rights slot that isn't helping him here.

[Smocaine]

am I still a tr worm/anyone?

[Smocaine]

Who would you have shot n2 ? That's probably the best lynch for today.

[Smocaine]

Ergo Proxy y/n?

[Smocaine]

the maf team was actually broken. I agree with smith here. Thanks for hosting jjh <3