Open 705: Polygamist - Game Over

[hyung]

Hi everyone. This is my first game and I'm definitely a bit behind but I'll catch up when I can.

[hyung]

If you're asking about the person I replaced, all they said was that they were gonna hit a lot of posts but I'm guessing that never happened. Not claiming my Lover or their stuff yet though.

I'll be back later, at work right now and just wanted to check in.

[hyung]

Please don't lynch until I've caught up and figure things out. From what I can tell we have a lot of time, but only 2 chances.

I'm sorry I wasn't here earlier but real life issues came up. I'll drop by again in the next 12 hours, most likely.

[hyung]

VOTE: cy I guess

[hyung]

Tbh I don't really know what's going on but if everyone is for this I'm willing to play along

[hyung]

Is there a list of revealed pairings btw?

[hyung]

All I've really read in detail are the votecounts. I don't really think cy is scum because of how this lynchwagon blew up compared to everything else being lukewarm.

But at this point there are so many loud voices and I'm so far behind that I'm gonna join in on the mob mentality.

[hyung]

Edit: He's at L-2 I'm pretty sure.

oh shit fuck i'm sorry that was L-1

"Sorry"

Uh huh

Yeah, now I also remember reading you supposedly trying to trick Mathblade. I don't really think you're sorry at all.

[hyung]

On an ethical note whether that comes from cocky Town or trickster Mafia, I dislike that kind of play.

[hyung]

Edit: You know Mathblade is my partner, right?

If you're town, yeah. If you're scum you could have easily coordinated that. Either way the way it was presented comes off as a dick move to everyone in the game.

Just so everyone knows because it's a new page, one more vote to lynch cy. (And just for the record when the game probably continues, cy is probably the only town read I have some confidence in)

[hyung]

UNVOTE: cy Actually screw silence and compliance.

This lynchwagon exploded, but nothing else has. It's not a mafia lynch. It's mafia's easy way out of the first day.

[hyung]

If you're town, yeah. If you're scum you could have easily coordinated that. Either way the way it was presented comes off as a dick move to everyone in the game.

Gotcha. So you're suggesting that right before I said that, I could've posted in the mafia thread and been like "Yo Mathblade I'm gonna pretend to prank you, react please"?

I don't have a read on you yet because I want to think you're Mafia, but your cocky attitude could just be putting me off. But just because you tried to paint it as a town test or something, doesn't mean Mafia don't have the same motivations.

[hyung]

Toranaga and sheepsaymeep

pisskop

Mathdino and

Amrochora/MisaTange

MathBlade
Redflavor and

manrock

Hyung
Cy and lalendra
Diamond and Sky
Kop and

bigfinn

momo

Thanks, ok. I knew some of these but not all.

I may be a little tipsy right now which is probably why I'm posting, despite how even thinking of reading this whole game tires me out.

[hyung]

I don't have a read on you yet because I want to think you're Mafia, but your cocky attitude could just be putting me off. But just because you tried to paint it as a town test or something, doesn't mean Mafia don't have the same motivations.

No, answer my question please.

Are you saying that Mafia-me went and told Mathblade in our scum topic, "Hey, I'm gonna act like I'm town testing you, so pretend not to know wtf I'm talking about when I say that you and I aren't paired together"
?

I shouldn't have to repeat myself when I just answered... lol no need to be so anal about everything. No offense.

[hyung]

oh shit fuck i'm sorry that was L-1

Tbh I was trusting dino but it seems like he was trying to trick me to hammer cy

If math scum it definitely cant be cy

Yeah this was my thought process. I know I'm behind but sporadically checking into this game has given me 2 instances of Mathdino trying to trick people like this.

[hyung]

I know there's probably no support for it but VOTE: Mathdino

Red can join me too or explain why she's voting Diamond (I think?)

[hyung]

Don't worry about reading the whole game right this second. It'd be nice if you could answer my questions tipsy anyway. If you're town I'll be able to tell pretty easy.

Edit: Red, I've fucked up votecounts before. I went back to the votecount and saw cytheflyguy at 3 votes, then saw Mathblade and hyung switch. Figured it'd be 5 votes.

Edit: Hyung, I need you to answer this, it's important. Is that a yes?

The way you completely ignore anything I'm saying even when I'm posting a lot like this makes it feel like you're trying to distract me.

[hyung]

Actually according to the role PMs, the Mafia topic is also closed on Day 1... so scratch that.

Mathdino as Mafia still has incentive to act like that though, it's a really shallow and easily checked test that you can milk for a long time.

[hyung]

I don't care if you keep your vote on me, we can get a lynch without you. I'm trying to make sure that, if you're town, you don't get mislynched tomorrow if this flips town.

...You were totally trying to "prove" I was town based on not seeing the Mafia role PM until now, right? Lol.

Side note for everyone, I absolutely think Mathdino as Mafia would try to look town by leading this, as another really shallow "test".

[hyung]

I don't give a shit if you think I'm mafia for a test.

Why didn't you just answer my questions immediately?

Also, have you played forum mafia before?

1. What a good answer

2. I answered it like 3 times, look again

3. Twice but I'm more used to chat mafia. The ability to express myself over a longer period of time is definitely helpful here, but I'm not sold on the number of pages.

[hyung]

I know there's probably no support for it but VOTE: Mathdino

Red can join me too or explain why she's voting Diamond (I think?)

I voted diamond because I was lazy and I said I would follow dino because he wanted 60% chance for us
But I realized he didnt really want that
He voted cy first, then voted diamond, then voted cy again. What Im thinking is he realized if they lynch cy first immediately , at day2 everyone will suspect him and then he voted diamond.

I need to check few things about dino/diamond/sky interactions

Yeah yesterday I was almost ready to vote them just because you did too and I didn't want to think too hard, but then I was too lazy/busy to login haha.

I'd appreciate if you followed me so I could gain some support here but I know this is supposed to be a 2 way street.

[hyung]

Actually according to the role PMs, the Mafia topic is

also closed on Day 1

... so scratch that.

Okay you know what this is good enough for me. RedFlavor and hyung are town. I just won a game using this gambit to locktown someone. Literally the only time I've ever seen it fail is when I myself faked this townslip in my first scumgame. But that took experience that this guy lacks.

So if Lalendra/cytheflyguy are scum, they're partners with one of:
Sky/Diamond: The OG pairing. Sky is on this wagon out of self preservation. Diamond is not. If Sky believes we won't get the votes, it's sensible to pretend to bus, so I can't rule this out.

sheep/Tora: This would be really fuckin weird honestly. They've shown 0 indication that they believe this wagon will die out.

Kop/momo: This makes a lot of sense. The only evidence against it is that Lalendra jumped on momo after the "scumslip".

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Then if this flips town... the pair consists of 4 of the above 3 pairs. Which is really uncomfortable. I'm honestly not seeing any of those pairs except maybe Sky/Diamond/Kop/momo, which I think matches up with the PT conversations. Then it's gonna be a question of getting the votes for that.

That's extremely shallow and if I was Mafia I could easily fake it. I'm new to this forum not to mindgames.

But I think you're smart enough to already know that. And I think it's another indicator that you're Mafia trying to fake-solve the game and/or bribe me over to your side.

[hyung]

Dino and sky/dia had skyscraper walls in page 25 so they are probably not scum together

As in really long arguments? If just Dino did that I would say they could both be Mafia pairs, but I don't think I have a good enough read on Sky/Diamond's personalities yet. (Meaning I absolutely think Dino is the type to overexert themselves as Mafia and be, for lack of a nicer term, a tryhard)

[hyung]

cytheflyguy was the original lynch, and Sky/Diamond were the ones holding that up. I was afraid that we wouldn't have the votes tomorrow to even win (cuz you need the entire town to lynch scum). When Sky started working with me, cytheflyguy became the clear option again.

...This only proves that cy is Mafia's mislynch of choice for Day One

[hyung]

Btw I dont understand the thing about bold part

Yeah I think Dino was already determined to come to the conclusion I was town, so that they could reap the rewards from their "analysis". Nothing about my post is a townslip.

[hyung]

momo/Kop

I actually don't recognize these names lol. When I access the thread I try to at least read the last posts but I don't remember these at all

[hyung]

I'm so glad we're pairs btw, I feel like I agree with almost everything you're thinking lol.

[hyung]

What does VI stand for?

[hyung]

Kop/momo was actually my thought for tomorrow's lynch, since scum isn't you guys and it isn't sheep/Tora.

LOL

[hyung]

Guys Mathdino just admitted he knows cy is a mislynch. If he really thought cy was Mafia, there wouldn't be a tomorrow.

[hyung]

Now THAT'S a real catch

Nice try man

[hyung]

I changed my mind this is a great first game lmao. Hilarious.

[hyung]

Not reading that when we've already won lol

You had a good run it's okay to admit defeat.

[hyung]

Edit: Utterly insane.

Hurry up, gotta decide whether to retract or double down

New post: double down it is

[hyung]

I don't have to go and find other scum when lynching one clears them all like dominoes. And you know that.

[hyung]

Reposting just so it doesn't get overlooked or lost:

Kop/momo was actually my thought for tomorrow's lynch, since scum isn't you guys and it isn't sheep/Tora.

LOL

Guys Mathdino just admitted he knows cy is a mislynch. If he really thought cy was Mafia, there wouldn't be a tomorrow.

[hyung]

I would also like to note that the front page says Sky has been active but he has been mysteriously absent from this thread this whole time

Could be a coincidence but as long as we get one Maf it's fine.

[hyung]

I still think the fact that everyone but me and Red is absolutely willing to lynch cy should already be a key indicator he's town, but given how Dino has people wrapped around his finger I can't really do much except keep saying it

Dino and Sky seem to keep talking about what to do "if cy flips town". Which should also be a clear giveaway that there are at least two pairs who know there'll be a day 2 with lynching cy

It's so easy for Mafia to justify their mislynch choices as a way for town to get more information. Whoever on that wagon is actually town should be continuing to look for an actual Mafia lynch

I'm on my phone right now so can't say much more. But honestly I'm only even saying this much because I think the fact this is a mislynch wagon should be glaringly obvious

and I'm disappointed that people like Dino can just get away with calling me crazy/drunk/an idiot when I scumread him, while setting things up for his pair to survive day 2.

[hyung]

I can't commit as much time here consistently each day as everyone else can, so I get why people might not be listening to me. But it's really frustrating to see Dino my scumread devaluing my opinion on character-based grounds, and see people being okay with that and ignoring all the tells

Lastly I can see how Dino's post could be interpreted other than a scumslip. But more likely than not, it was a scumslip - I don't think Dino expected pressure like that when I came in, and slipped up while trying to regain control of the situation

[hyung]

...

Math, are you even reading?

1. No PT fuckups.
2. "setting up non-Mop lynch tomorrow" Mop is literally my most likely lynch if sheep is scum.

Well, this reads as a definite townslip to me. Diamond forgot that if we lynch scum D1 then there is no inch tomorrow, the game is over.

Normally I'd say this is shallow too and can be easily faked, but I haven't gotten a good read on Diamond's play style and how easily he could fake that. Plus this feels a bit more natural than the other kinds of tests or slips in this thread before

Diamond is paired with Sky if I remember correctly, but I'm not sure how I feel about the pairing as a whole. Right now I'm very very lightly town reading Diamond by default due to this and slightly scum reading Sky... which is? A big question mark to me

But anyway this is irrelevant since I'm still confident a Dino lynch ends the game so *shrug*