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Post Post #8  (isolation #0)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:35 am

VOTE: mutantdevle
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Post Post #19  (isolation #1)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:56 am

Like Fitz just said though. Let's say the big takes a shot and misses. You then have what a 75% chance of nailing scum and then granted if I did quick math it's lylo but the odds are very heavily in towns favor for an actual win of the game.
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Post Post #31  (isolation #2)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:13 pm

Because you post walls a ton of them. But that's merely opinion.

So you vote me because of a null read.

So why your vote on me and not mafia who is unreadable is that for the whole game or just at the start?
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Post Post #47  (isolation #3)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:18 pm

Your Meta is to be a nit picky with your vote. And you like walls.
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Post Post #62  (isolation #4)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:32 pm

In post 61, mutantdevle wrote:Sadly for Elmo, that means potential walls

At least spoiler it.
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Post Post #79  (isolation #5)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:04 pm

In post 76, Almost50 wrote:
In post 67, Mathdino wrote:Her Elmo wagon is shit,


Elmo is a vote magnet. I see people voting there all the time (I hope my memory isn't playing tricks on me and that it IS Elmo that seemed to attract inexplicable votes in previous games).

Both Bins & Elmo are still total nulls for me.




LOL SOMEONE WHO KNOWS MY LUCK!
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Post Post #89  (isolation #6)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:24 pm

VOTE: Not_Mafia Come on man do something.

Not feeling Sauce too hot either

In post 78, Raya36 wrote:You could be right about the defensiveness not actually being defensiveness. In my experience scum have been caught before for being too defensive which is why I brought it up but I probably wouldn't lynch over it alone. I'm also using the term defensive loosely. It might be better described as deflective. I still want to leave my vote here though at least until I get a stronger read on her.

Would you rather me throw my arms into the air 4 posts in?

Looking this over again I noticed the use of the word "you" in 19 is a bit odd. Maybe I'm nitpicking over it not being "we". What do you think?

You are. Sorry its a way of how i type. Also you mind checking my math on that one?
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Post Post #109  (isolation #7)  » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:42 pm

In post 108, mutantdevle wrote:If the SK is our only way of switching the mafia PRs so that they don't work then surely we need the SK alive? Both town and the SK need the scum dead in order to win the game. Mafia obviously wins if they gain majority so the SK would want the scum dead first. So not only does the SK's switch abilities help us, but we also share the common objective of wanting to eliminate the mafia.

The way I see it, the SK is an ally of town that will eventually betray us. If the SK was ever at L-1 and roleclaimed, then I think we should keep them alive. If that turns out to be a mafia fake claiming then the SK will know and just kill them at night. If a townie ever fakeclaims SK just to keep themselves alive, then they are an anti-town piece of shit. And then obviously if we do get a SK role claim, we can just lynch them when the mafia is eliminated.

.....

I really cant believe this.

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Post Post #140  (isolation #8)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:19 pm

In post 139, Mathdino wrote:
In post 134, Chip Butty wrote:If I knew right now who the SK is, I would lynch them without a second thought. Even if it is in their interests to work with town for now, they're still more likely to shoot town than scum. We're looking at potentially 3 deaths per day/night cycle, and could lose real quick.

Oh I agree with this. Leashing the SK is dangerous. But if I had a choice between lynching a confirmed SK and a confirmed mafia, I'd choose mafia (although keep in mind mafia often claims SK to survive longer).

The problem is that SK hunting is significantly harder than mafiahunting because their lack of information/association makes them more similar to town. So I'm very much against lynching someone today because they might be SK. I'd rather lynch people who drop mafia tells.

Raya and Bins are still giving me the heeby-jeebies. I'd like a flip on one of them to confirm this.

Chip seems townish but I'm getting a slight feel of lowkey bussing.

MORE VOTES, PEOPLE. This game is slow af.

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Post Post #148  (isolation #9)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:56 pm

In post 147, Almost50 wrote:@Mafia: You should be hunting for the SK as a priority. If they picked to be immune to Town action then you can kill them and be safe from their NK. If they picked to be immune to your kill you would still be able to recognize them as they won't die to your shot, and in either case you want to control the switches. Go for it.

Most town post of the game. Yeah Why wouldnt someone put you at the top of the list for Town
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Post Post #152  (isolation #10)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:31 pm

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Post Post #373  (isolation #11)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:43 pm

I was prodded. I hate the holidays
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Post Post #405  (isolation #12)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:09 pm

So I have this straight we have 3 cop claims. And one SK claim and 2 mafia guiltys?
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Post Post #416  (isolation #13)  » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:14 am

In post 412, havingfitz wrote:Mafia ABSOLUTELY want sk!Bins to be lynched today. If sk!Bins is left alive today...does mafia dare not shoot her tonight?

Wrong if she's guilty she would have nk immunity
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Post Post #474  (isolation #14)  » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:05 pm

In post 473, Mathdino wrote:chip butty is probably town but what the fuck do i know

lynch maxous tomorrow probably

So let's play follow the SK
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Post Post #487  (isolation #15)  » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:49 pm

Well that happened. I have an idea on NKs but thats just a bit too easy.
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Post Post #509  (isolation #16)  » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:00 pm

In post 508, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 505, Sauce wrote:Cop switch was the most valuable scum role.

Not when the cop is dead...

Their only valuable role now is their vig switch.

You realize they said was.
Not even Vig switch doesnt mean much unless the vig is 100% sure I wouldn't have them take the shot and hit scum because it can end the game.
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Post Post #510  (isolation #17)  » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:02 pm

We're at 8 right now
Lynch today if we don't hit scum - 6
SK kills a VT - 5
Vig Shoots someone (Other then mafia) - 4
Mafia Shoots - 3

There's the game. I know the odds are skewed against it.
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Post Post #511  (isolation #18)  » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:02 pm

Holy hell I meant 7.
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Post Post #519  (isolation #19)  » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:16 am

Heres the one problem with that. If they cross kill how would you know who the SK is then. We would be at a loss then if the vig dies as well because SK takes NK Immunity. We all know Dino was a gambit that almost paid off.
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Post Post #521  (isolation #20)  » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:43 am

Wow shows what I read. Didn't realize they got Cop and Vig Immunity
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Post Post #537  (isolation #21)  » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:35 pm

In post 531, Chip Butty wrote:A50, you're looking at this wrong. No way does mafia shoot anybody else but MD last night. It was screamingly obvious he was the real cop.

In post 533, Chip Butty wrote:What is interesting is that the SK didn't shoot him. I think they must have assumed mafia would.

So your saying the mafia shot him? But who would have shot Raya the Vig. I don't see why the SK would have shot Dino just because odds are they took Investigation protection. Just a hunch but if the person has great town cred why not look at them?

Im waiting for NM to chime in now

Not feeling the SK shooting the cop though.
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Post Post #565  (isolation #22)  » Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:12 pm

Raya looking back was trying to tunnel hard. Its one of those serious things on Chip and from a pov it looks like Chip was trying to wash his hands clean of Bins where Bins was bussing hard.

VOTE: Chip

My moneys on Fitz as SK also or Almost being that high on reads
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Post Post #666  (isolation #23)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:31 pm

Working day opened when I went to bed and I'm at work - _-
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Post Post #672  (isolation #24)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:43 pm

In post 671, mutantdevle wrote:So with that in mind, I think we should no lynch today. It maximises our chances of making it to tommorow where we will be in a stronger position as we have less people in the lynch pool.

Short answer. No
VOTE: mutantdevle for even thinking of a nO lynch

You do that and say the SK hits a town and so does scum
Your down to a 1-1-1 game where it's who played a better game the SK or mafia leaving it in the hands of a town player. Odds of that are 60% if I'm right.
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Post Post #676  (isolation #25)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:10 pm

In post 673, mutantdevle wrote:I really don't think you are right.

I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on the idea of a no lynch before we start throwing votes out over it.

Right about what? Seriously your putting the game into the hands of RNG which is a zero sum game.
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Post Post #682  (isolation #26)  » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:35 am

Right now if i had to choose it would be:
Fitz or Mutant. Right now its really hard to tell.
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Post Post #686  (isolation #27)  » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:55 am

In post 684, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 682, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Right now if i had to choose it would be:
Fitz or Mutant. Right now its really hard to tell.

Wtf... he literally just asked you if you think myself or fitz is the SK... you can’t just repeat the question as your answer...

Really your no lynch was the dumbest thing Ive heard in a long time. It makes me think your the SK and just fitz in general. Something's off about it. Right now I need to rad thru the whole game again adn figure it out.
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Post Post #689  (isolation #28)  » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:55 pm

In post 687, Almost50 wrote:tldr: No. I'm for the lynch.

I was going to be lost and read this like 5 times before I got it
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Post Post #698  (isolation #29)  » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:13 pm

In post 695, mutantdevle wrote:So basically, I do not agree with no lynching, it's a fucking stupid idea. This was a reaction test to see if any scum would gain the confidence to support the idea and hence expose themselves.

This is the take away from your posts.

The excess quotes were just not needed
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Post Post #707  (isolation #30)  » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:12 pm

In post 706, mutantdevle wrote:How could you possibly know who the vig is?

NKA Its looking like.
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Post Post #713  (isolation #31)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:28 pm

So your scumreading the 3 people on the mutant wagon. And you make it seem like mutant is a mislynch. Hmmm....... Let's think about this for a second...
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Post Post #715  (isolation #32)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:44 pm

In post 714, havingfitz wrote:
In post 713, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:So your scumreading the 3 people on the mutant wagon. And you make it seem like mutant is a mislynch. Hmmm....... Let's think about this for a second...

What are you getting at? And there aren't three on the mutant wagon fyi.

Smh....

Ones claimed intent to hammer. The other two are on the wagon. Hence 3.
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Post Post #723  (isolation #33)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:11 pm

In post 721, mutantdevle wrote:This is MYLO.

Its not I think your the SK and I believe you have NK immunity. I know your style it comes across town.
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Post Post #788  (isolation #34)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:20 am

Welp odds are I shouldn't have shot sauce....
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Post Post #798  (isolation #35)  » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:18 am

Oh none of said it was alright. I dont mind
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