Open 706: C9++

[Elmo TeH AzN]

VOTE: Almost Chara

I really dont like hydras. They confuse me.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

VOTE: Elmo TeH Azn

FoS North

Should I tell them?

I have fixed your vote tags. From now on, please use the users full name and use proper vote tags. This is your first and final warning. Further infractions will result in your vote being discounted. (Not trying to be harsh, it's just that the contrast is much better for me to quickly see with proper vote tags.

Ugh. I'm pretty much voteless then. No way I'm gonna remember to break a decade old habit every time I want to vote.

Did you Abbreviate my name?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Curiosity most people tend to abbreviate it to ETA or something similar. At least from past experiences. Thats all

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Curiosity most people tend to abbreviate it to ETA or something similar. At least from past experiences. Thats all

Ah. So are you aware you are voting confirmed town?

Nope I didn't read that far before I saw the player list and saw HYDRA MUST DIE.

Reason simply put Im not a fan of Hydras. I noticed it after the fact they are a town IC now.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

True randomness means that everything has an equal chance of being chosen. If people disclude themselves while making an RVS vote, their vote was not truly random.

Unless you went to Random.org and posted the results there was nothing random about this vote.
VOTE: Jodaxq
This post really rubs me the wrong way

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Flipping a coin and having it come up as odds doesn't add up though. Then again Im putting too much into it

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I'm not sure I've been in a situation quite like this before.

Jodaxq: can you expand on your method? Were multiple coin flips involved?

What situation?

Why is the method I used important?

Truthfully I was curious how you came up with such randomness. But voting yourself Im sure as you know doesn't do much for anyone at any stage of the game even RVS. Im curious where our Hydra is.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

nice santa hat there ms tonereader!

xXTonereaderXx....would you just play the fcuking game. Ffs....smh.

what gives you the impression that she isn't? she's contributed more than i have, at this point.


by the way, i think cy is town. he was incredibly awkward in rvs the last game i saw him in – i like his observations and his

tone

so far.

Posting images and nothing of real substance aside one town-scum list. I hardly consider that playing the game

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Looking at it. He doesn't want to deal with someone who wants to be different.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I won't lie I'm really confused

[Elmo TeH AzN]

The only way I see a town read of Jodax is because of the vote to get reactions. Also notice how everyone who has posted a list is roughly the same?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

The only way I see a town read of Jodax is because of the vote to get reactions. Also notice how everyone who has posted a list is roughly the same?

There's really only been 2 reads lists posted. Maybe they're right though

I thought there we're 3 or am I mistaken?

The reason I was all up in arms about your self vote is because of what I know about this site's meta about self voting. No matter the stage.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Almost Chara, at the point that I asked Elmo that question, no, it wasn't scummy to still be voting you. However, I wondered if Elmo was aware that she was still voting confirmed town. I kind of expected her next post to be along the lines of "oops, here's my new vote". The fact that I didn't get an answer is a little concerning. I mean I know the vote changed shortly after but something about not addressing it directly...

The mod's intervention on tonereader makes tone likely town. The mod called it not playing the game which shows that it's not likely to be a scum tactic. I'm very unlikely to support any Lynch on tone in this game. Hate to use reasoning like that but it stood out and it's not like I can just pretend it didn't.

I hate hydra's. Why change it but to make my point. I didn't read thru the first mod posts. And I saw it was the IC afterwards.


Mod intervention can be looked at as town but also could be scum as well. Its merely a playstyle notion. But glad your willing to give free towncred

[Elmo TeH AzN]

In Regards to “Confidence:

” Id argue that hesitence on reads isnt good if you dont have a reason.

This sounds backwards somehow. Can you restate that in terms of what's good?

Please explain my head hurt from this one.

@Schism what I'm getting at is that it at most should be NAI. Right now your confusing me with this.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

After this post by Schism. I don't see how they're not town. Christ Im glad Im not the only one who saw the hydra say the things they said

[Elmo TeH AzN]

@Mod V/LA Till 12/30

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Thoughts tonight

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I'm free tomorrow I'll put thoughts to it I promise

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Okay, one of my games just ended (micro 756 if you want to see my scum game), and anothet just went into night, so I can focus more attention here now...

Please refrain from mentioning ongoing games.

The game is over though.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

...Why are people townreading Assemble again.

Do fucking tell.

Because they think his non activity and then claiming to read this game later are changing facts. Ill read this in a bit also.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

It looks like it as always for the most part with him. Hes an easy scapegoat for policy

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Intent to hammer just to avoid deadline and everyone to enjoy a new year

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I'll also provide intent to hammer. It doesn't seem like any other lynch is possible today

Its just a shame because of holidays and activity is a non thing.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

VOTE: Assemblerotws
Happy new year! Choo Choo

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Well this happened. So there's a Vig. Nice shot btw.

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Because assemble flipped town, we should be lynching in the pool of players on the wagon. How could scum possibly resist such an easy Lynch? Toneis dead town. Almost chara is IC. Havingfitz is dead non-mafia. I doubt anyone can tell me with a straight face scum stayed off the wagon. I'm fully aware that leaves myself and my scum reads. Elmo and chip are the best lynches. Schism might be a decent compromise but I don't think we'll get to that point.

Also whoever is good at setup stuff should try to figure stuff out with the cop flip and vig shot. The one thing I can figure out on my own is that a vig claim would confirm someone as town barring a counter claim. My opinion is they shouldn't claim until LYLO unless they'd otherwise be lynched.

vote Elmo

Glad to know YOU GIVE EVERYONE A FEW DAYS OFF FROM MAFIA IS SCUMMY.
Would you have voted me if I didn't vote? Since I wasn't the only one claiming intent to hammer?

Well this happened. So there's a Vig. Nice shot btw.

VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN

Hey peeps, what's up? Sad NSG died before I got to scumread her lol. Nice to see AC.

@AC, what changed your mind on the schism read? I noticed you were pretty adamant they were scum along with Jodax.

So any reasons behind this vote aside to just sheep?
Going to FOS someone then vote someone else just because of something I said?
Bravo. *golf clap*

[Elmo TeH AzN]

So any reasons behind this vote aside to just sheep?
Going to FOS someone then vote someone else just because of something I said?
Bravo. *golf clap*

You failed.

1. It wasn't a sheep. You can see in the order of my posts that first I voted you for your very scummy post, then noticed someone vote you with pretty agenda driven reasoning. So in my mind I was voting you for the post I quoted as the original wagon starter. Your blatant misrep here is laughable *golf laugh*

2. It was a reaction test based on my suspicion that the quote I voted you for spewed TMI. How do you know who the vig shot?


I'm happy where my vote is based on your (snarky) reaction.

1. It was. Funny you can say it wasn't but we all know it was.

2. I don't know who the vig shot. How would I know? Ironic there were 3 deaths and since this isn't multiball it leaves me to show there was a vig shot. Anyone who knows me knows I would make the snarky remark no matter what happened the next day. But glad to see you can take a joke.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

2. I don't know who the vig shot. How would I know? Ironic there were 3 deaths and since this isn't multiball it leaves me to show there was a vig shot. Anyone who knows me knows I would make the snarky remark no matter what happened the next day. But glad to see you can take a joke.

If you don't know who the vig shot then why bother to congratulate him? How is that a joke? How is a joke good enough reasoning for your obv. TMI slip?

Its called breaking the ice on day 2 for some humor in the game. Its a thing I do. I try to have some fun and make lightheartedness. If I had to guess who they shot I can come up with an idea.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Now with that, we can assume scum killed tonereader. Now we must find out who had the biggest motivation to kill them and start from there.

Just a curiosity question and I need to read but you don't think he wouldn't kill tone due to the annoyance factor?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Dear Hydra - Quit confusing me.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

FTR, I fully endorse Schism's lynch pool. I'd put Joda before dave though, but these are my 3 top SRs.

~A50

(Unrelated note, Im sorry I told you to fuck off yesterday, probably over the line, you didnt deserve that)

Mo problem at all, my friend. We all get emotional in-game (God knows I'm guilty of it too), so I don't hold grudges over such trivial stuff.

Dear Hydra - Quit confusing me.

It's all me though today. Chara had to take some rest. (No, I didn't kill them, I swear. They're pop-up sometime soon.. I hope).

~A50

Not the point and you know it.

Now with that, we can assume scum killed tonereader. Now we must find out who had the biggest motivation to kill them and start from there.

Just a curiosity question and I need to read but you don't think he wouldn't kill tone due to the annoyance factor?

I mean yeah, but like if you're playing mafia, you're not killing people based off of who you like.

Your killing people who you think give you the best chance. Yes I know

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I don't have time to read 483 so I'll do that next time.

tl;dr Chip is scum.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

My problem with the case on Chip that schism made is that it neglects assembles meta. Most people have experienced a game with assemble at some point and it's pretty obvious he's consistently lurksack mislynch bait. It's not AI to assume assemble is going to flip town off of 4 posts.

Heres my problem with that. Its the information in the posts. Its why hes obvious bait.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

And yes I saw someone else come to the same conclusion that I did on who did which kill. Elmo's post was among the very first of the day, before anyone should have had the chance to think through which kill was which.

As discussed earlier. You read too much into it.
2nd. It was 4 PM and sorry I didn't want to think about this game thru the New Year. Game was stalling.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Also wasn't Chip's replace out towny? I don't get why AC still wants to lynch that slot. I'd prefer a lynch in one of the better info scum reads like schism or Jodaxq. If I did have to compromise I'd go with EtA because his ISO sucks hard. I see noone is interested in Cy, and he's pretty low info anyway so I'm happy to leave that for now.

I dont look at replace outs as saying one way or another.

I'm loving the buddying here though from 2 people on the reads of one player

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Also wasn't Chip's replace out towny? I don't get why AC still wants to lynch that slot. I'd prefer a lynch in one of the better info scum reads like schism or Jodaxq. If I did have to compromise I'd go with EtA because his ISO sucks hard. I see noone is interested in Cy, and he's pretty low info anyway so I'm happy to leave that for now.

I dont look at replace outs as saying one way or another.

I'm loving the buddying here though from 2 people on the reads of one player

Beetlejuicing much? Nothing else you have to contribute? Are you going to push me or are you just shading?

I have 5 tabs of MS open and its the weekend. I check into things. Not allowed to?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Btw, Elmo is no longer a TR. She's down to NULL.

~A50

I should never be a townread

[Elmo TeH AzN]

That VC smells like both Elmo and Cy are scum. If they were both town and townreading each other I'd expect them to try to agree on an alternative wagon. Town and scumreading each other should be voting each other.

I would have to make a vote.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Haven't felt well past two days anyways. Was waiting on a VC. And didn't even post anywhere lately

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Can we get a vote count

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Cheeky is looking like a VI or scum right now. Who talks about spec aside scum this early though

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Am I misreading because I thought they wanted the massclaim. and the IC was calling for roles to be claimed?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Also, @Elmo: Just to be on the clear: Are you a 1-shot ANYTHING?

What does this have to do with anything? I'm not talking setup

[Elmo TeH AzN]

EtA is scum.

Yet you put your vote somewhere else. So if your NK tonight I'm going to be instantly locked down. Looks like your lining up lunches.
I still feel I'm your biggest read yet your voting someone else.
VOTE: CheekyTeeky

[Elmo TeH AzN]

If you think I'm scum vote me then.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Why would I want a nl of all the things

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Dear hydra - Post on the right account

[Elmo TeH AzN]

VOTE: Elmo

[Elmo TeH AzN]

It doesnt help scum didn't really know what the roles were for some of their own mafia members till later.

Scum we're just really dead. Hydras should still be banned in all games. I still refuse to play with them. I should have requested replacement at that. And my game was just lethargic