I tackle (mostly) any point against me.In post 65, JaydragonKing wrote:Rather be seen as an over reactor then to leave a point about me unmentioned so that someone inevitably tries to say I'm evil for not trying to defend myself from every point about me.
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jay is a dumb dumb and is obvious SK-
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In post 251, Mathdino wrote:jay is a dumb dumb and is obvious SK
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jay can't even spell "what" correctly, must be scum-
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Math teacher giving an English lesson? Obviously a traitor.In post 254, Mathdino wrote:jay can't even spell "what" correctly, must be scum
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Case for Jay/Ray Scum team:
In post 6, JaydragonKing wrote: Let's all introduce ourselves before we go into a voting frenzy and try to murder each other.This may be absolutely nothing on it's own, and especially so when I had responded to Jay with "I'll let my deeds speak for me". This only caught my attention because of the following two posts by Ray.
In post 110, Raya36 wrote:Exam week prodge
Again, this may not be obvious (why is Jay so anxious to rule out Ray as a lurker?).In , JaydragonKing wrote:Welp, that's one non-poster accounted for. Now for the other ones!
To make my point clear, please compare to:
In post 113, Dunnstral wrote:reading up
Then we have the post Mathdino quoted:In post 111, JaydragonKing wrote:*Insert the sound of a rabbit* (i.e. not a mention of Dunn)
Why meta dive Jay and not momo? Why state an unexplained Scumlean on Beef??In post 217, Raya36 wrote:Jay's play was confusing me so I did a quick meta dive. Their play seems to be closest to the town play I saw in a few of their games. They seem a lot more relaxed as town whereas as scum they seem to be a little more tryhardy and not as relaxed and fluffy. I'll give a slight town lean but I'm still going to keep an eye on them since I find their play really hard to read.
And Dino thought Ray was making a case on Elsa, when -in fact- he was clearing the lad ("Their play seems to be closest to thetown playI saw in a few of their games", "as scum they seem to be a little more tryhardy and not as relaxed and fluffy", "I'll give a slighttown lean"
So, I first noticed Raya's 3rd post that seemed to be clearing Jay through meta, but ALSO SRing Beef w/o giving any reason, and not caring to metadive momo.
ONLY THEN did I remember Jay's comment on Ray's prodge and went back to see what he had to say about other prodges, and when I found he had not commented on Dunn's in particular I ISO'd the two of them simultaneously and saw the RVS thing too. All 3 Ray posts are connected to Jay one way or another.
Maybe I'm being a momo myself (i.e. overly paranoid. NOT meant to be an offense to momo in any way, shape or form), but that's how I think and that's where I got.
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Alright, I can now understand why you think that.
Personally I metadive people with recent join dates just because it's easier. Jay definitely opened in a significantly weirder way than momo. Hell, the first game I played with Jay, I metadived him first out of anyone (and didn't meta anyone else for a while).
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As the og paranoid mislynch....I must say, I see that in a wierd momo sort of way....like the case makes sense, adding a little bit of my own in like 30 secondsTranscend- But reading momo I feel like he is the that player that if he got pressured as town, he would be like fuck and yall and move on with whatever else he was doing
Boonskies- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
TheGoldenParadox- As it stands, momo is a great player or maybe the most mislynchable player on the site right now-
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In post 243, JaydragonKing wrote:UNVOTE:
Almost and Dave just made me feel uneasy about this shit now. Appearantly I have two separate scum partners in their mind. I'm going to look at some other options.In post 246, JaydragonKing wrote:Dave just decided to point an arrow saying "scum reaction" is what made him uneasy to me. You looking for a weird and probably non-existent connection between me and Raya made me uneasy about you.
Beef is a valid option but now I'm seeing that we can also eliminate another possible scum who's causing paranoia among everyone.
You claim to have reads...these posts are just 90 minutes apart in fact..and then you troll voteIn post 255, JaydragonKing wrote:
Math teacher giving an English lesson? Obviously a traitor.In post 254, Mathdino wrote:jay can't even spell "what" correctly, must be scum
VOTE: Mathdino
A classic scum maneuver is pretending to read but never really committing to it...this trolling is also scummy, trying to fit in with the town, act nonchalant..no matter what you say, I know that town!jay would never do this, especially when jay is somewhat scumread
In fact, if one person was pushing you, you would face it head on...in fact, if there is an entire wagon against you and you are town, you stay true to your reads and the game, you don't just use trolling as a way to shrug of/deflect the vote
you want meta, here is meta
VOTE: jaydragonkingTranscend- But reading momo I feel like he is the that player that if he got pressured as town, he would be like fuck and yall and move on with whatever else he was doing
Boonskies- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
TheGoldenParadox- As it stands, momo is a great player or maybe the most mislynchable player on the site right now-
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oh joy now i have to deal with a momo vs jay tvt fight
my absolute favourite
i really just love having to defend momo and jay of all people
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@momo: I wanted to vote Jay earlier, but I didn't want to sabotage -what seems to be- a good wagon on Beef either. Beef never got to say anything when he was put @ L-1 and seemed so resigned to the idea he was being lynched. You don't go that silent when you're being seriously wagoned if you're Town. You -at least- give a readlist and try to analyze the wagon on you (i.e. leave the Town some legacy to inspect after you flip green).
I have to admit I first joined the wagon on Beef for lolz, as he was absolutely null to me (as I said, he only had one of his first 5 posts with any game related content, and it was some piggytailing), but I've grown more suspicious of him due to his reaction (or rather lack thereof) to his own wagon.
Here's where I stand right now:
mozamis ---------- Nothing new. Nothing out of the ordinary. Very likely Town.
Dunnstral --------- How am I supposed to get a read here? BIG Null.
Kotoko Utsugi --- Not voting Beef triggered my scumdar. Scum lean.
Mathdino --------- Same strong play that WILL get him NK'd early (You don't play like that in a multi-ball game if you're Scum). Definitely Town.
Beefster ----------- Not even defending himself or making arguments for a counter wagon. In short, not Scum hunting and not self-verifying. Likely Scum.
JaydragonKing – The jump off the Beef wagon made me even more suspicious of him. I said he's unlikely to be Scum WITH Beef unless he was caught in a bad distancing maneuver and the first thing he does is take this very opportunity to jump off the wagon. Independently suspicious and COULD be Scum with Beef or Raya.
davesaz ---------- I've seen Scum!dave and I've seen Town!dave, and this looks very much like his Town play.
momo ------------ Same hyperactive crazy momo. Town.
talon152 --------- talon is competing with Dunn for the "nulliest lurker award" of the game. BIG Null.
Raya36 ---------- The associatives I pointed out with Jay make me feel uneasy. Scum lean.
Assemblerotws – Still have nothing much to go by on this guy. Null.
Archwing -------- Everytime he posts he gives me the impression he sincerely believes in what he says (i.e. This is not a Scum plot). Town lean.
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Why do you keep OMGUSing?In post 260, JaydragonKing wrote:You have no idea what I'll do under different circumstances, Momo. You saw War-time Jay. This is Peace-time Jay and Elsa.
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SHIT! I was late, and it had already started.
@momo/Jay: COOL OFF.. both of you. And get Beef back @ L-1
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For Dino it was playful banter because he wasn't he during RVS - which, being honest, I'm glad he wasn't or I might have been put up instead of Beef due to momentum.In post 264, Archwing wrote:
Why do you keep OMGUSing?In post 260, JaydragonKing wrote:You have no idea what I'll do under different circumstances, Momo. You saw War-time Jay. This is Peace-time Jay and Elsa.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Momo
we were all having a peaceful time as well...
For Momo, his constant switching and generally causing paranoia among town is not something I saw from him before... And I even said it myself, "different circumstances, different decisions", but he is the complete opposite of the last time I saw him.-
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momo is the KING of Town paranoia! The guy probably checks his own role pm every 30 minutes to double check his own alignment!!!
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lolIn post 269, JaydragonKing wrote:Oh look, the old folks are bonding at our expense, Momo. Don't they look cute together?
VOTE: Beefster
jay, you can be town with me again...wait I am town right...flipping on jay like I always do seems scummyTranscend- But reading momo I feel like he is the that player that if he got pressured as town, he would be like fuck and yall and move on with whatever else he was doing
Boonskies- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
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kotokos first proper post i reallyliked, seemms town.
i know wgere he is coming from with dave - the guy is almost TOOreasonable, and i can see myself votying assembles.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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this is on eo f the fairest OMGUS votes ever. The wagon on Beef is nonsense.In post 179, Beefster wrote:The way to win is to get 4 correct lynches in a row. Short days do not help achieve that.
VOTE: Mathdino
OMGUS, but I don't care.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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yep, math has done us all a favour, he looks and town and so does beef.In post 202, Kotoko Utsugi wrote:a
P.O.E Town: Moz, Koto, beef, Math, Almosty, Jay,Momo.
So 4 scum in: Dunnstral, archwing, assembles,Daves, raya, talon.
4 in 6 people! woohoo!You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...
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