Open 707 - JK9++ [Endgame]

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find me a town game where he rolefishes like this?

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no one claimed the shot yet

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not vig

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vig should definitely claim if they exist

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creature's vote doesnt mean anything
pedit perfect timing lmao

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i need to read the thread when i dont have the flu
i'll try to read through some stuff and drop some thoughts later

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no
he voteheld until he voted red at eod when he was basically inevitably that day's lynch
he voted something that definitely wouldnt go through
it doesnt mean anything

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im psure scum!red wouldnt have hammered and instead have let creature claim? im not entirely sure about this tho

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im psure scum!red wouldnt have hammered and instead have let creature claim? im not entirely sure about this tho

Why? is that a meta read? If you're not sure voice out your reasoning right it down. Why does Scum!Red not hammer and wait for a claim versus not?

This game is very slow and there's a lot to slog through so forgive me if I'm asking more questions than providing pure content myself. I find town works better when everyone is providing content and doing little things like this rather than 1 to 3 players continuously making the largest ISO dives possible.

yeah actually rethinking this idk if it means anything
he's just a trolly lolhammer type player in general regardless of alignment

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can someone tldr a screen case

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i'll look into his iso with that in mind later

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im just not a fan of d1 preflip associative hunting
it's a waste of time if no one's actually flipped red yet

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yeah that's entirely different and fine with me

also i had impede at nullscum originally but i originally thought my vote being there wouldnt do anything

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yeah i just dont react as scum
but saying those reactions are fake is not true and

there's no way you would know if they were faked or not

absolute bullshit

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VOTE: momo

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You wanna vote someone, it better be for a damn good reason...not voting them back for voting you

That vote is scummy af

first line is a misrepresentation
second line is like exaggerated in like a bad way

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@ag there are 7 letters i think

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i openly admit to having skimmed all of ag's walls for like 3 seconds
but i dont really like how she's just put out 2 readlists and basically she's just summarizing stuff or asking questions
like it definitely doesnt feel like it's posted with the intention of finding scum

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and why did you feel the need to tell me this

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momo
a naked vote that wasnt putting you near a lynch scummy af i see
especially bad because you are trying to make it look like you are scumhunting and you think you are successful i see
do you want to realize i posted reasons now

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Saltiness.

If you'd read my post,

not just skimmed it

, you'd notice that I'm in the process of building a case against momo.

then dont write posts more than 3 sentences easy

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tacos was never in this game lol
red got replaced

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momo alisae wants to know if you still want to do her anything upick

also that post is like
really bad
it's mostly a fluffy ate defense

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waht do you think lol
yeah go to the singup thread i guess

game related: im town btw

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I honestly don't know...he's scummy...that's all I got...

she
also do you want to like
talk about this more

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lmao read momo's iso
he's been coasting for a longass time

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like if he did provide his own reasons he stopped a while ago
he just dropped this list and he's like
maybe this because this is scummier than this
no this is still worse than this

and that's not defending

also dont like the way math auto defends momo

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no stop that can be easily faked

nah i want other ppl to talk abt this first

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*fitz's "townslip" can be faked

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no stahp to him interpreting fitz's thing as a townslip
i corrected myself
i said i'd wait for other people's opinions to claim

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probably
:/

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nope

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lmao read momo's iso
he's been coasting for a longass time

The fuck do you think coasting is?

His D2 play has consisted of:

1. Being the first one to genuinely come up with a Screenplay case
2. Attacking shit votes on me (and then pushing Screenplay with more reasons)
3. Expanding his cone of vision and giving other reads/options
4. Defending against shit accusations against himself.

this sequence i didnt like
he doesnt even check the iso to try to see what im talking about; he just automatically confidently defends momo
like usually if town was somehow this confident in this read they would stop and think?

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that's not called sheeping

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i provided my own reasoning

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yeah that's not sheeping

and yeah every person i voted was one of my sr's?
except i voted you cause you had a really really really bad post and idek where im at this day phase like i have no idea what's going on except mathdino rolefishing

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fuck no
and if he's scum in this situation how the fuck is he even "caught"

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I think I have played as good town

/thinks

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Edit: momo played fine, you guys just scumread for weird-ass stuff.

he's like textbook scummy

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i explained my vote in my next post
it was really more of a vote to respond to a really bad post
and his read on me was too fluctuaty
like i was most town in the category "likely not scum" or smth
then i vote him
after my explanation he still categorizes it as a naked vote and moves me to scummy af
like now he has out of the blue new reasons sort of
also i did explain why i thought he was coasty recently

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Sheep I townreadish you because I thought spammy was your playstyle

it is my playstyle
you "thought"? why dont you think that anymore
also why is that worth a townread

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k so i looked through momo's short "case"
it's like actual bullshit just confbias and misrepresentations
i dont see how the hell dino hard townreads this

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hold on im writing a wall

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no it's not for not being persuasive
i do admit his play isnt very good as either alignment
he's literally misrepresenting screen and his attacks are exaggerated in a scummy way; it's so obvious he's reaching for reasons

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holy shit i write walls when i feel like im onto smth ok

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you have this one game of experience with me where i was never actually motivated to do smth until now fuck off for a few minutes pls

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Anything important that everyone should know?

I’ll iso when needed.

Anyone found a way to break this setup?

No, just no..I have replaced into games frequently and I can say that when I get a town pm...if the game is withing 50 pages, I will ask for a summary but actually have the intent to read and scumhunt...something like this; hands down lazy scum.

im not seeing how he gets that screen has no intent to read and scumhunt from this post. this is also bullshit because he LITERALLY STARTS SCUMHUNTING RIGHT AFTER that post and momo wrote this case a fucking long while after

A50: looks town

Creature: nullscum, posting style feels a bit forced

fitz: first serious vote, doesn't really try to take credit for ending RVS, seems town

Impede: i have no idea what he's talking about in regards to Una but probably town just towning around

Jay: seems to be actively playing to his own meta. i don't think his behavior is super alignment indicative in general, and he's kind of a fluffy fluffer. i'm good with lynching him as a player until he learns not to be scummy. but then again he's probably town doing that weird "forced meta" thing

Kop: POLICY LYNCH. idk him giving advice to jay seems really forced, the way he's doing it. like he's speaking as a player and not as a townie?

Red: vague townish vibes

Una: i can't read any of this shit but i hope he contributes soon

everyone else: get in here so i can scumread you pls

Can you elaborate on some of these, because this is striking me as forced reads. Your accusing me of looking forced, this is more forced shit rather than actual reads.

How does Almost50 look town, what does town look like? He's made one RVS vote, and one filler post. How does that make him look town?

Creature, if you believe he is nullscum, why aren't you voting him since he's virtually your only scum read?

Impede, how is he towning around?

Jay, so your happy to lynch someone just to learn them to stop acting scummy, rather than actually lynching someone who you scum read? Do you scum read Jay or not?

Myself, your talking about policy lynching someone on page 4, and no reason because Fitz has painted myself as a policy lynch because of previous games.

Overall, reading these reads, I don't think they are actually genuine reads right now, and is just trying to look active.

VOTE: Mathdino

Agree with kop.
Seems kinda early to have enough confidence in giving reads to that many people.
On top of that, a lot were town leans.

Making votes based on post 90 on post 900 is nonsense....especially when the person you are voting is part of the town leadership and leading a wagon on likely scum.

it's fine it's not like dino was a lynch candidate
momo's basically attacking screen for attacking someone momo's townreading
like it's not that scummy for him to not realize that screen doing this isnt scummy cause i can see this being vi

VOTE: impede

I think as of now I would rather this slot be the lynch and I haven’t even seen creature yet.

Voting without reading... a solid scum reason to be able to protect your buddy as a replace in but not something town worth the space their post takes up would ever do.

like it's already pretty clear that screen had read quite a bit at that point but especially momo just because you play pussytown doesnt mean town will never vote a scumread before theyre fully caught up

VOTE: Dino

Not helpful

Math,
Summarize Kop and Fitz for us.

Was hard scum reading dino....now want's dino's opinion to shape his reads instead of actually scum hunting...

yeah and this is obviously very bad because changing reads doesnt exist and a vote and saying smth isnt helpful always means a hard scum read
like this is a REALLY bad misrep

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hi momo

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oh i misinterpreted that rip

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smoehow

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listen boy...you know what this looks like...you defending a scum buddy...

you hopped on every single wagon except for the ones on assemble/screen

In fact...you were defending asseble...saying you liked him for town even though there was no content to cause a townread

everyone, go to sheep's iso and ctrl+f assemble...every single mention has sheep defending that slot

n00b!scum at it's finest

y'all can choose a vote, sheep or screen...I'm fine on either

holy shit
LOOK AT THIS FUCKING MISREPRESENTATION
at the very beginning when i just replace in i like assemble
then i say i prefer his lynch over smoe other lynch
that's it

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no his entire push is just misreps

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@Screen

Can you explain why Kop, Hawk, and fitz are in that list?

No. Not to your satisfaction.

Scum

why aren't we lynching this

like
screen's post is fine
momo's literally playing the same as i do from an informed pov

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oh then i read down a bit

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or maybe he had reads
so he made that list using his reads

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im not chainsawing
my case on momo =/= hard defending screen im literally not very confident in town!screen

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yo

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well this moved quickly overnight

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fuck off

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I actually enjoyed Sheep's case against Momo but it felt less like he was attacking momo as actually being scummy more so just attacking momos case against screenplay.

the misrepresenting in the case was scummy

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4. Be respectful to others; posts with the sole intent of insulting others are not tolerated

what relevance does this have at all

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kop dont change youre avatar rn momo might sr you for it
1455 is bad
dino's point is that the creature/una interactions arent mafia/mafia
those interactions alone dont just make una sk
also holy shit that is bad
you were set so hard in newb tunnel mode like screen posts you just auto quote it and be like lynch this
now he's in a fucking in a category "not really scummy"
like not everyone is bad at scum ok

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what toxic attitude...

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huh i see what youre talking about
it's called tunneling

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"fuck off" as in he's not forcing a claim out of me yet

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I think Kop just townslipped...scum would always be careful with their vote and who they are voting for...town on the other hand, I can see them messing up like this and then fixing it in the next post

no not everyone is that self conscious

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like momo's really reaching for a reason there

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here let's defend against why momo doesnt like me
1378 "Sheep I townreadish you because I thought spammy was your playstyle"
that

is

how i play and he seems to know that and idk why the hell he now doesnt
"When screen told me all your votes were pretty naked, i looked back...that way you're playing bullshit...believe me if the screen lynch doesn't go through, I'm coming for you"
so basically i had some naked votes
like does town never naked vote or smth
and then i wrote a wall and that makes me "caught scum"

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also because i voted him when he was fake scumhunting

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that moves me from towniest in the group of likely not scum to a reasonable lynch

then his only decent point is i was on the wagons with potential
not all of them momo i hadnt hopped on screen and i sort of made it clear i wasnt planning to before you said that

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momo do you want to realize how shit your tunneling on me is by looking at my response to why you dont like me

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would hide behind momo

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yeah that meta is all old and sour as hell

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have fun i guess

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it might and that would be bad because it's incredibly unreliable
like i have no idea what the fuck my meta looked like back then so i dont know what it says about me here
and town has very clear motivation to say that here too

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i just play much differently in general i didnt force anything
it just changed from playing a lot i guess

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as town i should be afraid of being lynched, so i should be afraid of smth that just doesnt work at all and is basically a case against me

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my play just changed overtime
i was never lynchbait but i used to be much worse at the game

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the explanations part is untrue
readlists i do if i want to put in the effort that's not alignment indicative either

i would strongly agree that townreads is a tell for me

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im vt

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yo

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sheep is at

L-1

oh and impede.....those original comebacks...just, *shook* lol

Oh btw if any of y'all hammer, I won;t think any worse of you

just lynch this shit someday

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YEE I HAVE FUCKING TIME

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momo is in no way obvious town

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ibasically never read the game that's why

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never read this game ebwop

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gg