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In post 160, Sauce wrote:
As your intellectual superior I advise you not to refer to "FOS: rb = Roleblocker" as a PR endangering role speculating discussion instigation.In post 150, profii wrote:The point is you are so smart that only you can see the benefit of discussing game setup or directing the conversation towards who has what PR - everyone else is so stupid we live in fear of slipping the town PRs to the scum so maybe you need to give us a lesson on what you want to hear from us
Furthermore I advise you to contemplate the recent events and see them for what they are.. observe how stupidity can overpower intelligence in terms of number of hosts but never per se, because on internet forums one can always read the relevant posts again and reach the conclusion that what you just wrote there is utter nonsense, and you're doing it because you feel encouraged by your fellow players exhibiting symptoms of not intending to read and address the whole thing, possibly as a way of showing how little they care about intelligence when it's not them who are emotionally involved in upholding it.
Their defense? that it's more important to teach me a lesson about how I ought to compromise fighting to preserve intelligence's sovereignty when there's a chance that that will make a game more conservative, less "toxic", because they think they've acquired techniques of scumhunting which are effective under conservativity simulating conditions. The truth is no amount of conservativity will make ISOs like that of rb, eth0s, Leaf, hyun or Dunker have anything to do with scumhunting. How could they? In their mind the appropriate thing for me to do is yield to your bullshit; but then intelligence will lose its champion. Who will be apt to revitalize and carry its pure essence if I let it be desecrated, nay, desecrate it myself. No, once intelligent there is no way back.
I walk through the valley of the shadow of swarmstupidity with my head held high, and I fear no idiot.
Intelligence won't ever compromise its integrity for something as meaningless as winning a game of forum mafia with strangers with nothing on the line. Indeed it is true that he who is intelligent can be dumb but he who is dumb can never be intelligent, however the cost of faking dumbness or even indulging it is too high for an emotional, intelligent being under these circumstances. No prospect for future circle jerking for the sake of gaining alliances with those who refuse to accept intelligence as their driving force in an educated guessing game is worth a compromise with stupidity, on the contrary.. one must never stop fighting, never giving in to shit like this fucking shit:
Fake claiming ignorance about the fact that if I have claimed such a thing as you having connected derp with scum it would be irrelevant either way, as I undoubtedly renounced of any such claims in subsequent posts. So what are we talking about here? How stupid Thor is or how dumb he thinks I am. Either way it's his fault we're having this discussion on the outdated premise he's invoking.. did he not read the posts I wrote later? Am I supposed to think for him and figure out what he might have missed? Stupidity endorses perceived prerogatives of how others ought to think for the person it nests in, intelligence does not.In post 151, Thor665 wrote:Yeah, I know what post you're referring to.
The issue is that in the post in no way at all did I connect derp with scum.
Which means since you're claiming I did
I'd welcome any and all fellow players who have strayed to step in line and receive the glory of intelligence. Do the reading! Do whatever it takes to stop being idiots. It is good forever.
I have indeed. I wouldn't have if I had ever played a normal on this site before, maybe. That doesn't change the fact that one line of setup spec on early day1 won't affect intelligence, on the contrary. But several lines of stating obvious things like that there's a higher likelihood for a vig or an sk to be in the setup if there's a double death can.. because it's obvious, don't you see. Why the fuck would you ever state obvious things, why not just think them for yourself and fucking act on it. Do you need someone to spell it out for you? To want the answer to be no is to not want to be stupid, so of course setup speculation is more valuable early game, because it can only hurt later on. Similarly why would you want to play in a game where it's necessary for you to interpret the double death for others to get it. Would you want to play with someone who is incapable of figuring out the obvious for himself? To want the asnwer to be no is to not want others to be stupid either. It's good.In post 151, Thor665 wrote:Dude, you argued that the setup spec was logical and your best defense for it is "now I know there's a possibility for an SK"?
Why the fuck would I be voting Profii right now? What kind of fucking question is this? On what grounds? Why the fuck would I change my voteIn post 151, Thor665 wrote:Please, just wait till we get a double kill before bringing up derp and acting like it's worth my time.
Why aren't you voting Profii right now?from youto him? This is not good. Vote this slimey, slithering scum hiding behind the stupidity you have co-generated and are responsible for by not scumhunting. Do it, for glory!
have I played the role that has been attributed to me in a satisfactory manner? I do confess it comes very natural to me to be the voice of uncompromising and gameoverarching reason. I think I will emulate this style as I see great benefit in calling out idiocy and talking down on it.What's the benefit of Leaf's "shtick"?it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Yo sauce, is this you?In post 175, Sauce wrote:Spoiler: Let's pretend this is something I've PM-ed myself instead of posting it; would I gain sympathy for backing down? Why?
I've read the book and saw the movie so I can say with confidence that Acryon turns out to beIn post 158, Archwing wrote:Mod Notes: Shout out to Assemble for helping with 1984 flavor! I actually have never read the bookSpoiler:it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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In post 213, rb wrote:eth0s iso is the saddest thing i've ever seenIn post 214, rb wrote:Lalendra's is also the saddest thing everIn post 215, rb wrote:Flavor Leaf is probably town despite gimmick
What the fuck? You really want to exclude your own ISO? I can excuse voting for everyone under the sun but not if you're going to be the pot calling the kettle black.In post 217, rb wrote:Hyung has joined the saddest ever iso club
BTW OMGUS
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I usually start to, and then I realize I don't hate myself that much, so I stop.In post 232, Dunkerdoodles wrote:btw haven't read a single sauce postit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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What if I don't have two townreads?In post 242, profii wrote: question 4 - @eth0s - please provide your top 2 town reads?
that'll do for now.
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Are you town?In post 293, profii wrote:Pick your most 2 towny players even if they are marginalit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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grrrrIn post 295, profii wrote: Now chop chop 2 town reads please
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we are one and the same, brother!In post 284, rb wrote:Ethos is fluffy, weak contentit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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yeah, your vote tags followed by silly one-liners has all the people admiring your scumhunting skills.In post 298, rb wrote:Actually no, the 2 strongest wagons in the game so far have been the ones I was pushing. My influence on the game so far is anything but weak.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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In post 302, rb wrote:Where did I say people are admiring me?
You're saying I'm fluffy and have weak content - yet my game is anything but fluffy. I'm making strong reads and pushing on them. You're reduced to pathetic omgus and joking around, with no content in between.
Your play should speak for itself, and it doesn't. You should be able to say, "these posts I've made are good" - but you can't, all you can do is deflect attention from how bad your play is with OMGUS and "no you" defence.
Weak. Vig shot here if we have one, otherwise definite lynch in the next couple of days.
p-edit: rb strikes me as too scummy to be scum, but then it just turns into a wifom loop when I think of it like that. So IDK. inb4 someone calls our back-and-forth s/s chatter.
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Where am I not cooperating? It's pretty funny/ironic to me that your 2 biggest posts (by far) are both directed at me because you're getting mad that I am calling your posts fluff.In post 308, rb wrote: If you townread them, why so reluctant to cooperate?
obviously because you're foiling my plans and trying to make me lose!! /srb wrote:Oh and if my play is scummy, why are you willing to ignore it as long as I'm not calling you out as scum? This doesn't make sense from a town perspective.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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I ignored questions about "why would u read the rules hurr durr" for obvious (maybe not to you) reasons. Then I answered profii's question. It's actually hilarious thatIn post 314, rb wrote:At what point when people ask you questions are you going to actually respond with content?youare trying to tell me to step up my content right now
p-edit: ooh another question from profii! Maybe now I can prove my worth to rb .
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Waiting until rb has an emotional breakdown before I respond to this. Hold up.In post 321, profii wrote:Eth0s what are your thoughts on Dunkers and Lalendra
aaaaaand there it is.
dunker is null, posts even less content than I do, and rb isn't on his ass constantly.
lalendra is null-town. Has made some thought provoking posts which I always enjoy but I also wonder why she and dunker are so focused on flavor leafit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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profii, from the bottom of my heart, if you are town then you need not worry about me so much. But I've never seen this kind of play from you before so I don't really know if I can confidently consider you a townread at this point. I don't really have enough MS experience to rely on meta a whole lot, but you're playing differently than you did as town in our last completed game, so I have to worry about you a bit.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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the more I think about it...In post 326, eth0s wrote:
dunker is null, posts even less content than I do,In post 321, profii wrote:Eth0s what are your thoughts on Dunkers and Lalendraand rb isn't on his ass constantly.
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You're the one tunneling me. And I'm done answering your questions until you start asking other people things, too. If you ever flip scum I already know our interactions thus far are going to be called "s/s".In post 331, profii wrote:I’m not particular concerned because you haven’t done anything yet. I might be concerned if you were tunnelling me for some absurd reason but for now I am trying to elicit some decisiveness out of you which will help all the players decide who to lynch
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Same!In post 334, hyung wrote:Oh also I'm town so don't worry about lynching meit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Hey lala could you give us a top 2/3 scumreads with a little reasoning to go with it? My apologies if you already have recently. Im on my phone and hate navigating the site on mobile.In post 358, Lalendra wrote:
Nothing specific, mainly the fact that they are now posting game-related content and I can follow and understand the thought progression behind their posts.In post 347, acryon wrote:
Which posts by them have made you feel better?In post 346, Lalendra wrote:Feeling a lot better about both eth0s and dunker in light of recent posts.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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I have a lot of concerns with rb's play. I still think he may be in that too scummy to be scum category. But that leaves me at a null read in the end. I already mentioned weird interaction between rb and dunkers and am still thinking they could be scummates. Saucy is likely town blowing his top for reasons that I can't pinpoint yet. I can't get a clear read on sauce or thor though to be honest. I would assume if one of them is scum its probably thor.In post 495, profii wrote: eth0s = surely you have some thoughts on Saucy? what about Thor who scum leant at me early in the game?
Do you have any concerns with rb scum reading Lalendra, whom you town read? rb also town leads on dunkers who you scum read. Interesting!
I know it fits your general playstyle, dunk, but you are producing such a small amount of content compared to profii and kinda acting like asking questions is scummy. Idk I didn't like this post.In post 504, Dunkerdoodles wrote:VOTE: profii
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Let me introduce a few points. First, I knew you were town in our first newbie game because I was scum. Second, I'm not suspicious of you because others are, I'm suspicious because your play doesn't seem to be following your town meta. Three, I actually haven't yet commented on that "awful post", but it definitely didn't help your standing in my book.In post 586, profii wrote: Another random point whilst looking in my ISO - Eth0s - I’ve noticed he thinks I’m town if everyone else thinks I’m town because this happened in our newbie game. I made that awful post and he jumped on me. I noticed I’d made a note in my ISO that Eth0s made a forced town slip by referencing scum day chat. Consider his card marked for now - he hasn’t really done a great deal beyond jump on wagons.
p-edit: okay that seals it for me. We lynch profii today and even if he flips town I think we will get some valuable info. Really don't think he is town, though.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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self-voting on this site generally makes you less credible from what I've seen.In post 669, profii wrote:I'm amazed the vote count is so close I feel like I'm miles ahead in terms of presenting valid evidence but hey ho
Regardless, I need to go to class and I'm not very confident atm so
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Wow. I agree with rb on something.In post 672, rb wrote:
Don't make 5 different claims?In post 662, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t care anymore. I’m doing my best to give my thoughts on everything and explaining everything, but it literally doesn’t matter what I say to certain people. So I’m not going to play here anymore. It’s not fun for me, and it’s not even playing the game.
Next time I play a game and don’t speak in it, this is why. Because certain players will vote and funnel me endlessly no matter what I do, so there’s no point in playing the game in those cases.
Don't AtE everyone second post?
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In post 722, profii wrote:Wtf I can’t find the post. I amsureEth0s said something along the lines of we shouldn’t lynch Hyung I sure about that and I thought it was odd with the lack of posts and all- also now the hyung vote on me gets me thinking
I can find a post where I referenced it but I can’t find the actual post. I’m losing my mindDISCLAIMER:Still catching up, haven't read past the post I'm responding to. Why would we lynch hyung? I never defended him but why would saying that we shouldn't lynch the guy who hasn't said anything except "i'm town", be a scumtell? I almost wonder if this is a hint that scum!profii either secretly or subconsciously wanted to lynch the lurker because it was an easy mislynch?it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Wait, what. You know boon (FL) is like, infamous around here, right? He doesn't do anything because he doesn't know what's going on.In post 728, profii wrote:I've just re-read Dunkers ISO. He had 3 votes on him pretty quick and said someone there would be scum.
me / Flavor (Jodaxq) / eth0s.
He then moved back and forth on his read on flavor a number of times, whilst voting for me as well.
He has previously said eth0s was a town read, but could be scum for hopping on the wagon.
There was also a random PR CC in there too.
I'm kinda leaning on the flip flopping on FL being a town person who doesn't know wtf was going on. Seems weird to make a PR cc at 3 out of 6 votes though.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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suh dude. Why are you scumreading me so hard again?In post 784, rb wrote:Not gonna lie, every single reason given for eth0s townreads are just not reasons I agree with. Jodax is probably town, profii I think is town also despite the rougher-than-Trumps-face furor that went on before.
I think scum are most likely the people not giving much weight to the game at this point and allowing the situation to unfold. I'm townblocking thor, profii, jodax, dunker.
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pretty sure it's you and dunker but okayIn post 835, Lalendra wrote:If sauce flips scum, his buddies are ethos and dunker. Trying to take attention off of sauce with the weak push on me, then the hammer for towncred.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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sauce isn't scum. If he is then hes fucking terrible at it. Regardless I'm glad he's getting lynched solely because I don't have to skim through his embarrassing egotistical outrages anymore. Still highly suspicious of lalendra. pls look into her if I get nk'edIn post 838, eth0s wrote:
pretty sure it's you and dunker but okayIn post 835, Lalendra wrote:If sauce flips scum, his buddies are ethos and dunker. Trying to take attention off of sauce with the weak push on me, then the hammer for towncred.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Still working on homework but I will get to this soon.In post 864, profii wrote:eth0s;
you made an early post saying FL and Dunkers looks like town vs scum.
Then you gradually moved your read on dunkers from null to getting as far as placing a vote on him.
Later, you also placed a vote on Flavor Leaf.
Can you just take us through you thinking here and highlight anything that caused you to change you reads in relation to these 2 players please?
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imo this is one of those things that you cannot accurately read off of. Like no matter whether you think he would or wouldn't do that as scum, scum calculate their actions with such criticisms in mind. Still gonna explain my thoughts on dunker and FL soon I promise.In post 866, profii wrote:In post 515, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
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That's not what I meant. It feels like provocation. I'm interested in how accurate and what motive or purpose he might have for saying that. Would he show off as scum? Would he show off considering the parameters and what happened up until now in this game?In post 509, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
scum!boon is more naturally town than town!boon. he usually does crazy gambits and talks a lot as town and yeah. so yes this falls into his town meta BUT he could easily be manipulating it as scum so idkIn post 505, Sauce wrote:What do you make of Boon's assessment that he gets you lynched a lot, regardless of his alignment. Is that something scum Boon would say? Can you extract any non-meta read from all of this?
basically i don't think we should lynch him today but i don't want him in lylo
if he could get copped and confirmed tho he's normally pretty good with reads.
i wouldn't say he lynches me a lot, but he's a good player and he knows i know that so if i was scum i probably would be weary of him
but im town and he's probably town too
If scum!dunkers said openly in the thread that he is weary of FL and then night-killed him (despite the swap) then it's a ballsy play. I'll lean town for now.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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yeahhhhhIn post 882, rb wrote:> dunker and lalendra are my top2 scumreads
*doesnt vote either of them*
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noooo.... we can get more info on kop as time goes by... you should definitely be voting your top scumreads here...In post 883, acryon wrote:
Let me phrase it like this. Dunker and Lalendra are my top 2 scumreads. Kop as a priority supersedes that because it's impossible to have a read one way or the other on him right now.In post 882, rb wrote:> dunker and lalendra are my top2 scumreads
*doesnt vote either of them*
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Dunker is playing the exact same he did last game. Average post is 5 words long and contributes basically nothing to the town.In post 878, rb wrote:Well since neither are suspecting each other:
- eth0s how is Dunkers town this game, and why?
- Dunkers, same about eth0s
No, I'm not... Not even close.In post 899, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
eth0s is playing similar to a scumgame i just played with himIn post 878, rb wrote:Well since neither are suspecting each other:
- eth0s how is Dunkers town this game, and why?
- Dunkers, same about eth0s
VOTE: eth0s
VOTE: dunkerdoodles
FoS: acryon
I'm okay with lynching either of those today, or lalendra.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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wait wut. Just realized Kop just replaced in. This is setting off more red flags.In post 912, acryon wrote:
I'm not too proud to admit that I might be playing wrong. And Kop's entry hasn't pinged really.eth0s wrote:noooo.... we can get more info on kop as time goes by... you should definitely be voting your top scumreads here...
VOTE: Dunker
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So you were voting the guy who just replaced in because you couldn't read him? right..In post 914, acryon wrote:
What does Kop replacing in have to do with anything?In post 913, eth0s wrote:
wait wut. Just realized Kop just replaced in. This is setting off more red flags.In post 912, acryon wrote:
I'm not too proud to admit that I might be playing wrong. And Kop's entry hasn't pinged really.eth0s wrote:noooo.... we can get more info on kop as time goes by... you should definitely be voting your top scumreads here...
VOTE: Dunker
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In post 925, profii wrote:
I've just cast my eyes over your ISO again.In post 910, eth0s wrote:@profii am I playing similarly to either of our last games (where I was scum)?If not, what do you think about Dunkers saying I am?
I would say no to matching last games play actually, you seem to be going in random directions, whereas in the last game, this was less apparent, but as you mentioned in this thread, when you are scum, you know the answers.
Also, I noticed I pushed you for 2 town reads just to get something out of you. Then you asked someone else for 2 town reads.
Overall, I would probably suggest you are not sure how to dig the scum out, the point I'm making about you copying my questioning tactic is that you seem to want to try anything to try and help, but maybe you are just not sure how to find a scum?
Someone could easily WIFOM that and say by mirroring someone you know is town, that player might town read you (which to be fair I have done)
I know that sounds a bit condescending (sorry) but for me it looks like you have no idea who the scum are so I'm kinda town leaning a bit.
Sheeping profii
I have scumhunting methods (completed a couple games as town already, as well) but seeing as how I am still relatively new to the site, I try to change up my gameplay at least a little bit each game, so I can find methods that work well for me. No offense taken and as long as I continue to townread you, I will be sheeping. Still, though, my scumhunting is lacking a bit in this game. The replacements and seemingly volatile voting behaviors is making it hard for me to pinpoint a good read on hardly anyone, hence the sheeping of you.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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imo dunker is full of shit. Ever since he said I was playing like I was in our last game as scum I have been weary of him. Meanwhile he is literally playing the exact sameIn post 950, acryon wrote:Why did you switch off of eth0s? You seemed sure he was scum based on your metaread.
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Phone posting atm but I'm a little confused by the question. You know FL is Morality from our last game, right? AKA Boon. Dunker was pretty quiet in the PT that game. He wouldn't even answer most of my questions. I can't reference it right now as I'm not at PC and too much trouble for all that. I will get back to this. I think Schadd was going to make that PT public but I will pm him if it isn't.In post 953, profii wrote:
While you’re online eth0s- don’t think you answered the aboveIn post 917, profii wrote:Eth0s - I can see the short sentences for myself. I am more interested in the behind the scenes stuff that happened in the private thread, such as my theory that Dunkers said that he was weary of FL, then FL was NK’d - this could be a setup by someone else or a distancing tactic by Dunkers. Do you think he would attempt such a gambit?
Also, for you - I misread you every game so no idea. Will read your iso later
@MODERATORAm I allowed to direct quote stuff from a Scum Thread from a game that is over? I only ask because I am not sure if the thread has/will be made public.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Basically I'm a little toasted right now so my reading comprehension skills aren't at their finest. With that being said, I just reread the scum pt and dunker was mainly suggesting staying under the radar until we made it to the last night. Then we both theorized on how he could use it to mislynch and save himself for a day. He was more helpful than I originally suggested honestly. But contrast it to his town game if you want a better meta read on him.In post 958, profii wrote:Games compete I think it would be ok but I’m just asking if you felt he wanted to stay under the radar if you thought he would use the scum powers to purposely misdirect town- quoting not necessary if you want to be safe
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Won't be surprised if you're paranoid about me after reading my comments about you, but if you're town here you just gotta trust me. I figured you would be easier to convince because we already had similar "scumreads" that game. Also you were the only person other than the replacer, Not_Mafia, that I had completed a game with before and thought you would be more likely to TR me based off of low odds of me being scum 2x in a row. It would be hilarious if I really were scum and you town again, but that's not the case. I do plan on sheeping you so I really hope the tables have not turned lolit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc) - eth0s
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