Micro 772: Jester Nightless

[eth0s]

Ohhhh shiiiiiet jester is my favorite role ))))

[eth0s]

I'm not the jester please stop harassing me......

[eth0s]

Wait I just realized I am the jester my bad

[eth0s]

You're saying that like you don't know

[eth0s]

Shit I thought this was the mafia PT

[eth0s]

lol fuck it
VOTE: Not_Mafia

[eth0s]

so the question for me right now is

something smart continued to defend not_mafia after there was any utility doing so

is this town with shit reads and no concept of policy lynching

or is this scum doubling down so he doesn't look bad for defending his buddy

VOTE: Something Smart

tune in on this wagon tomorrow night at 9/8c to find out

getting a jester read more than a scum read, or I would vote him too.

[eth0s]

Defending not_maf at all in this game seems like a viable jester strat lmao

[eth0s]

VOTE: Not Known 15

Hammer it fast!!

[eth0s]

erm, sheep is half of the jay hydra, right?

and that's the only hydra in here?

not even trolling I am new to playing with hydras and it's kinda giving me a headache lol

[eth0s]

I am so paranoid about lynching jester that I'm just gonna
VOTE: eth0s

Now this isn't proof that I'm not jester, but I would either have to be suicidal scum or a REALLY lucky jester to say this and have Not_Maf flip scum.

Wait I just realized I am the jester my bad

Wait I just realised you're full of shit my bad

eth0s who's your partner?

You're saying that like you don't know

Shit I thought this was the mafia PT

Now ideally we would lynch scum today but that sounds like too much work to distinguish between jester acting scummy and real scum. So just lynch me, the ez town. I have hardly contributed anyway.

[eth0s]

Then after I die it should just be, what? 4 town vs 1 scum?

[eth0s]

.... Yeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh no. Not hanging Ethos today with that bullshit. Definitely day 4, though.

because you're jester LMAO

[eth0s]

Hoping on the Assemba school of thought isn't going to get you hung today, ethos. Your just damning him AND yourself.

I just tried to damn myself with a self-vote... next.

[eth0s]

Well I'm 99% sure heartless isn't jester but then why would jay be advocating for a fast lynch on them?... Now me thinks jay isn't jester.

p-edit: I already told you im not jester, bruh. Unless you really think I was a lucky enough jester to fake softclaim maf partner with Not_Maf and him actually flip scum LOL

[eth0s]

I get it, it's sketchy to self vote in this mode. But I know I wasn't that lucky, so I am voting myself regardless. I don't care if you losers don't wanna vote me and make jester suicide. If you wanna risk lynching jester that's on you. Now I really don't see Heartless as jester so that's probably a safe vote. I think jester is either Something_Smart, Assembaa, or Ari. More than likely one of the first two.

[eth0s]

that's obviously not what i mean

then what do you mean? How am I fake claiming jester? I did it back on day one just like you did. The only difference is you actually probably are jester.

[eth0s]

You felt like one as well, Ari, until you spoke just now.

But anyway, me and Dino both have our votes on heartless, who isn't jester and MAY be scum. We only need two more of you too agree to their execution. Whaddya say?

Have I been?

And Iunno, I'll have ti read them for jester tells. We are close to clear, but I want ti be sure we're safe before I commit!

[eth0s]

Nah Jay isn't jester. I'm fine with the heartless lynch idea (still not moving my self vote) but I think we need to get jay afterwards. Their play is more scum than anything imo.

[eth0s]

you want to explain your jester read on me

no. But I do think you're kinda dense for thinking I'm jester.

[eth0s]

Yeah, let's end day 3 before Jingle can even update day 2. It's the perfect plan.

^SCUM^!!!

[eth0s]

lolhammer
VOTE: heartless

[eth0s]

Okay so lynch me d4 then when I flip town get jay

p-edit: my point still remains

[eth0s]

lmao ethos
jester has until d3 to get lynched
if heartless isnt jester then jester lost

is this supposed to be news? I'm not jester you fool

[eth0s]

I am so paranoid about lynching jester that I'm just gonna
VOTE: eth0s

Now this isn't proof that I'm not jester, but I would either have to be suicidal scum or a REALLY lucky jester to say this and have Not_Maf flip scum.

Wait I just realized I am the jester my bad

Wait I just realised you're full of shit my bad

eth0s who's your partner?

You're saying that like you don't know

Shit I thought this was the mafia PT

Now ideally we would lynch scum today but that sounds like too much work to distinguish between jester acting scummy and real scum. So just lynch me, the ez town. I have hardly contributed anyway.

I'm going to reference this post until I die

[eth0s]

p sure it's s_s

[eth0s]

rvs scumclaiming with a partner is in no way suicidal scum

ok

[eth0s]

can we just promise, as a group, to lynch me tomorrow? I wanna laugh at you guys in the dead thread with my boy Not_Mafia

[eth0s]

yeah lynch jay

Nope we already decided to lynch me. Sorry :/

[eth0s]

eth0s if you are town you are literally gamethrowing hard

[eth0s]

eth0s if you are town you are literally gamethrowing hard

ebwop: or scum.

[eth0s]

I wouldn't troll as jester here. (Of course I wouldn't probably have done ANYTHING I did but clearly you didn't trust THAT.)

I think that's probably because eth0s is hard to read. Him joking about being scumbuds with Not_Mafia is certainly an audacious play and it definitely puts him above Ari and Assembaa on my readslist. My current belief is simply that if Heartless isn't jester we can lynch everyone other than you and Jay and win.

What makes you so sure he and jay aren't scum?

[eth0s]

lolhammer
VOTE: assembaa

[eth0s]

5 left with heartless and ari gone. That's hammer

[eth0s]

also: Scumreading mathdino if it's not game over. Distanced himself from Not_Maf from the jump and didn't vote to lynch until he was at L-2. Also, why would you say that he is bad and needs to die, but not until after the jester is gone? Were you wanting us to lynch 3 townies before the jester died? (see post 44). I'm assuming you didn't want to be lynched. And you didn't want the now confscum to be lynched until the end... curious.

[eth0s]

Just FYI my above 2 posts were made when Jingle had 3 reserved posts above my 2

[eth0s]

wait holy shit that's actually a hammer

okay i'm not flashwagoning this time, mod said game's not over

@Jay:

Which is it between SS and ethos and why? Do you care?

Edit: I'm trying to understand/parse your case on me and I'll get back to you once I can grok it

You're trying too hard to not seem scummy...

[eth0s]

Spectrum starting with town:
eth0s
Jay
S_S
Mathdino

[eth0s]

Let's start being smart

[eth0s]

Edit: I don't think you understand why I'm asking that question, and I'm not explaining it to you until Jay gets back.

Huh?..

[eth0s]

5. You're assuming I ever

knew

he was scum. I thought he was a ninth of a jester at first, then lynchworthy town.

FTFY

[eth0s]

When you said I'm trying too hard, I assume it's because of the question I asked, which I'm not explaining.

nope.

okay i'm not flashwagoning this time, mod said game's not over

@Jay:

Which is it between SS and ethos and why? Do you care?

That's the trying too hard part. All else removed

So he just hammers Assembaa when I can't find a trace of him actually scumreading them in the ISO.

Process of elimination. We needed to knock some lynches out so I hammered a couple possibilities. now that it's down to the wire I see 75% likelihood of you being scum.

Fuck not flashvoting, pretty sure this wins.

Nope. I hope you're not town. I truly apologize if you are, but I really don't think you are. Why are you so ready to lynch me without some commentary from the others?
I would counter-vote you because OMGUS and you're being scummy, but then I would just be stooping to your level.

[eth0s]

@Something_Smart

: do you view my past couple hammers as scummy? Why or why not?

[eth0s]

Also, I could point out more scummy motivation in dino's play but I am working on homework right now. Will provide more examples soon as possible.

[eth0s]

@dino one last thing:
Why have you townread me basically all game up until I scumread you?

[eth0s]

Finished earlier than I expected. Firstly dino I want you to know that you've made some really compelling posts this game and no matter how it ends or how you flip, thank you for giving me some food for thought. Hope we match into another game sometime. Second, I am going to VOTE: eth0s. This is not a gambit. I really want to die. However, I really do not want a townie to hammer me (unless of course the remaining 2 are both town...)

Sure, we can go through pages upon pages of this 1v1, but at the end of the day, anyone can spin anything to sound town-motivated. I think that voting patterns are our best friend from here on out. I think that even with a self-vote, there is a good 75% chance there's scum voting for me. After my flip there would be a very good chance that one of the two people voting me, that isn't me, would be scum. So I ask that the remaining two people think about who their biggest scumreads are. If dino is your top scumread, and you are town, hammer me. Then get him. If dino is your top townread, don't hammer me. Then whoever votes me up should be your top scumread.

We got no night-kills to go off of, and I am probably overlooking a certain aspect of the game here, but I feel pretty good about this choice. I'm probably the least-experienced player here, so I'm taking one for the team. Now if I get hammered by two townies, we are screwed. But if not, this should give you a 50/50 chance + whatever reads/bias you might have to aid you.

I'm expecting no one to be upset at my self-vote, but if you are, tell me. I can unvote if you think there is a better way. As of right now, I think the safest way is my death. If I should die before I wake: good luck, brethren.

[eth0s]

I'm not saying to lynch whoever hammers me, though. This is an alternative to potentially lynching another townie, then being left with 3 people who all voted for said townie. This allows for a little bit more guided votes in lylo, I think. If you read my post thoroughly, you will see that I have acknowledged that scum could hammer me and get away with it. I'm not looking to be conftown. Conftown me after I die. What I'm looking for is any last little bit of scum slip. Any piece of knowledge that the 2 remaining can use without clogging everyone's head with 10 pages of back and forth arguing. Let's let everyone think for themselves.

But as it is, I can't in good conscience NOT vote a self-voter,

If I'm right about you, why even say this? If your purpose was to score townpoints with me (unlikely) then you succeeded. But if I were any townie but me, I would be wondering why you would bother pointing out that you feel you're making the right choice, when your vote was already there beforehand... It's not like I voted myself to get things started. I already had pressure. Now it kind of sounds like you are scared of what people might think of you after my flip, but you're in a position where you can't move your vote off of me without seeming a little suspicious. After all, why would a townie remove his vote after his target votes himself?

[eth0s]

If I'm not dead by the time I wake up in real-life tomorrow, I might reconsider my actions. But as of right now I don't see anything that shouts scum so loud that I just have to vote it. Surely if this fails, and maybe even if it succeeds, I will be called a game thrower. And maybe this will make me one, who knows. But I'm not going to let my fear of that keep me from doing what seems right in this moment.

[eth0s]

God dammit Dino. You're either genius scum or a very genuine townie. Now I need to think this whole thing over. One step forward and two steps back, I guess. If you're scum I'm going to be so fucking mad lmao. Yes, I did exaggerate my scum-read on you to gauge your response. And if you're wondering, yes, part of the reason I self-voted was a reaction test. But if you're scum, you gave me nothing to work with and so here I am falling back on reads that I had pages ago. I thought about what you said with confbias so I am going to let off of this tunnel for now. Much gratitude to town!dino and a huge fuck you to scum!dino.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Something_Smart

spectrum:
eth0s
jay
dino
S_S

HOLY FUCK. JAY ISN'T MAFIA. JAY CAN'T BE MAFIA. How the fuck did I just realize this. Sadly jay is probably scumreading me even harder than dino is but I think I just cracked this thing. Jay

spearheaded

the not_maf lynch... why in the fuck would you do that if he was your partner? You don't second-vote your teammate d1 on a policy lynch. Not even in this setup would you do something that ridiculous. Sure there is the WIFOM aspect, but you really think that scum's first move would be to kill one of their own under no pressure? Sure, Not_Maf probably wasn't playing his win condition, and likely wanted to see a jester victory, but still. town!jay makes town!dino so very fucking likely that the subtle hints that S_S has been dropping all game just turned into hard evidence.

Okay so you're not scumhunting, cool got it. Ethos and Mathdino, you're welcome town, lynch me out of gratitude?

I know for damn sure he wasn't bussing me. Highly doubting that he was bussing you, dino. Neither of us were jester clearly. If I'm right and troll!Not_Maf wanted to see a jester win, he would have been calling out his top

jester

reads right there. 99% sure he was excluding his teammate. He was definitely trolling, but I believe he had a plan. And the funniest outcome that would get the best reactions would probably be not_maf being able to claim that he helped jester win.

[eth0s]

I would be mad over getting lynched before I could defend myself, but I'm pretty sure I lolhammered 2 people the same way so I probably deserved it

[eth0s]

meh dont fucking throw the game by lolhammering

ok, dad.

[eth0s]