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i regret this so much
although HI TTH! i thought you left the site (i did)
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Okay so
Jay roleplays (a bit extravagantly) alongside playing like a survivor, which he now knows gets him lynched. He's a weirdo in general. Lynchbait. Not a hydra though.
Not_Mafia is a troll. tbh I wouldn't have signed up for this if it were a normal game with NM. If it were a normal game I'd go for the policy jugular but there's a 1/9 chance of instaloss so *sigh*
Assemble is gonna lurk. sheep is gonna spam. What a duo.
That's all I know.
Edit: OH JESUS FUCK- Mathdino
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Okay new strategy: Whenever the jester auto-dies, if it's not Not_Mafia, we speedlynch him.
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Weird, I'm townreading Jay, that's a first.- Mathdino
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this is an objectively wrong statement
i don't care if it's technically a subjective one
also ari is probably scum tbh
jay is town, assembaa could legit be jester
N_M is trolling (NAI), thinking ethos could be scum
SS is the nullest of nulltowns- Mathdino
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this intimidates meIn post 16, Something_Smart wrote:
Clearly you haven't played enough with him.In post 13, Mathdino wrote:Unless anyone here thinks he'd hardclaim jester as town.
i've only ever played with town-N_M once and he was a non-presence who quickvoted town first post in LyLo
so idk wtf to do with him
hopefully we get scum in first 3 days so we can policy lynch him after jester death
Edit: @Jay: Nah I usually gamesolve in LyLo. I'm undefeated in LyLos as town. THAT's how to survive in style, Jay.- Mathdino
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I've been thinking about this too tbh.In post 45, Something_Smart wrote:Also, I'm not sharing jester reads except that I will only advocate lynching someone I have a confident not-jester read on.
I don't think both mafia would claim jester because they'd just be outed by LyLo.
So there's gotta be mafia in the non-trolls.
This kinda means that we have to lynch the people that actually seem like they're trying.- Mathdino
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i hate myself and everything about this setup- Mathdino
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everyone who made their accounts before like 2014 are defaulted to mafsilverIn post 46, JaydragonKing wrote:I hereby elect to hang NotMaf, not on the account of his trolling nature, but on the fact he uses MafSilver as his preferred background.
i switched to mafsepia tbh- Mathdino
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the fuck does that mean bitch
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In post 55, JaydragonKing wrote:Math... You and Smart are the only ones who's really trying right now. By your logic, one of you two are scum.In post 51, Mathdino wrote:i hate myself and everything about this setup- Mathdino
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i wasn't really responding to that post so much as the fact that TTH is in this game at all
i appreciate your positivity ari
got reads?- Mathdino
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Ari could be jester. Fluffposting is a great way to get lynched.
VOTE: Heartless
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Opening post doesn't read jester. That's my primary criterion.- Mathdino
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I'm more concerned with weeding out the non-jesterclaims than the jesterclaims and possible jesters. The risk of game-ending is too high. Pretty sure I can solve by LyLo after jester death anyway.In post 74, Not_Mafia wrote:
Okay so you're not scumhunting, cool got it. Ethos and Mathdino, you're welcome town, lynch me out of gratitude?In post 72, Mathdino wrote:Opening post doesn't read jester. That's my primary criterion.- Mathdino
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Then I guess I'm not gonna solve LyLo?
I mean if there's ONE silver lining about this game it's that I'm not gonna get shot, and I'd like to think I'm pretty easy to read, so
if you're testing me for jester, no, I'm not jester and I'm not going to act like it.
Are you gaining any usable reactions from your shit?- Mathdino
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If I actually get to lynch territory then yeah, I'll post a roadmap. A lot of my stuff doesn't actually work until LyLo though.
I'm not getting a mafia-jester-claim vibe from ethos. Getting it more from Assembaa tbh.- Mathdino
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holy shit
yeah SS is town- Mathdino
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oh my god
are you allowed to force them to confirm- Mathdino
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OH SHITIn post 98, JaydragonKing wrote:Yeah, when I see an intelligent paragraph, I'll know it's Assemble instead.
THE ONE BENEFIT OF THIS GAME IS WATCHING MY FAVORITE PLAYERS GO AT IT- Mathdino
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Reads listing is weird because in a way there's 3 prongs, and I can't exactly graph people on a triangle. Will go in order.
Ari: Very obviously not jester I think. Playing in exactly a way that won't get him lynched. Former scumread here is kinda dying. I really just need content. Null between town/scum.
Assembaa: Glad this page's conversation happened. Upon review, Heartless's argument does make more sense. Would be weird for jester to say "I'm jester, and also townies totally claim jester!" If anything, they would rather people think other players are jesters so they can get lynched. Town or scum, leaning scum.
ethos: Getting town vibes here. I'm really doubting that the best strategy for jester to not get himself lynched is to hardclaim jester and joke scumslip.
Heartless: I'm torn. I love their arguments but it's hard for me to townread them outright. I actually kind of have a gut suspicion they're jester and are setting themselves to be in my/SS's pool of "people who read as non-jester". Need more content. Also the Jay read is shit.
Jay: This is pretty clearly town. Jay could EASILY get himself lynched as jester.
Not_Mafia: nope
SomethingSmart: Okay so this one is definitely not jester either. The defence of Assembaa is weird and doesn't totally make sense.
VOTE: Assembaa
Willing to see where this goes. I can maaaaybe sort sheep.- Mathdino
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Doubt that'll work, but good to see NK15 isn't jester either.
Safelynchpool: Aristo, Assembaa, SomethingSmart, NK15
Actually probably scum pool: Assembaa, SomethingSmart, and probably Not_Mafia if he doesn't drop dead- Mathdino
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No no no. I've played with Jay too often for this shit.
This is Jay's game. In fact this is even more townish than Jay usually is.
Go read a completed game of his.
@Jay:Because I know you're probably going to, please don't bring up ongoing games. Let them find it if they're gonna look there.- Mathdino
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I mean if we make this the strategy it incentivizes the jester to go all obvtown on everyone and add themselves to the lynchlist.In post 131, Not Known 15 wrote:So... the strategy is...
1. Day 1- Day 3: Lynch the most obvious townies.
2. Day 4: Hope that the 3 most scummy townies kill a mafia at LYLO
3.Day 5/6:Lynch the last mafia.
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Jay our goal right now is to repeatedly speedlynch 3 players who aren't you and aren't jester.
Think like a survivor.- Mathdino
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It's Nightless. In order to survive you have to be good town. No reason to dodge the NK.In post 144, JaydragonKing wrote:You won't rage at me if I do, then?- Mathdino
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i can entirely see a world in which he pisses off me and jay enough to lynch him tbhIn post 148, Assembaa wrote:nm isnt jester
i dont see a world where he expects to be lynched like this- Mathdino
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In post 153, JaydragonKing wrote:Of course you would, Sheep. He's not personally after your middle schooler sanity. Your both the same age mentally.- Mathdino
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seriously though the longer we leave assembaa alive the less quality content they will produce- Mathdino
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boring game
VOTE: Not_Mafia
if he's actually the jester, we're pretty much all idiots
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All of my this.In post 167, JaydragonKing wrote:And if he is, I honestly think we'll be better off without him.
And saying that, and if he flips scum, you just shot up my scum list, Smart.
If you guys are so sure he's not jester, then him out of the game is a net gain for us. Jester possibility is the only thing stopping me from lynching him off the face of the earth.- Mathdino
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I think the very fact that you and I are even here is why he's doing the "too scummy to be scum" strategy. I fully expect him to autohammer any L-1s.- Mathdino
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I think everyone came out of that game with the same two words. "Never. Again."
Paradox went to the graveyard and told me he'd join games with N_M with me just to policy lynch him together.- Mathdino
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so why the fuck is he self-votingIn post 174, Something_Smart wrote:He is readable.- Mathdino
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do you believe he's playing toward his wincon- Mathdino
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Is Ari jester after all...? Regardless of N_M's flip, this is a weird convo.- Mathdino
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People being afraid of L-1 and hammers is a symptom of
1. Wanting claims (no claims in this setup)
2. Wanting last words (like N_M is really gonna do that)
I'm okay with speedlynches on players who won't give last words in mountainous style games tbh.- Mathdino
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We're Nightless. People can easily be accountable for their votes and there's no method to remove the towniest individuals.- Mathdino
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so the question for me right now is
something smart continued to defend not_mafia after there was any utility doing so
is this town with shit reads and no concept of policy lynching
or is this scum doubling down so he doesn't look bad for defending his buddy
VOTE: Something Smart
tune in on this wagon tomorrow night at 9/8c to find out- Mathdino
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okay but as jester why harddefend someone you don't even know/think is scum
if he's a jester he just got insanely lucky
i don't think he is tho- Mathdino
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So we're agreed SS and NK15 are not only highly unlikely to be jester, but also are unlikely to be mafia.
So are we down to which one to lynch? Because it sure sounds like this is heading in a "lynch one then the other, then see who the jester is if the game is still up" direction.- Mathdino
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I honestly have no idea what the fuck to do. Like, it's nightless, so we can just lynch all my suspects in a row, but I also have no reason to and no clue how to argue why we should lynch one first over another.
Like, we all agree we should be lynching non-jesters first and we're likely to hit scum. Now what?
Where are the votes at?- Mathdino
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I'm good with SS's plan in terms of lynching NK15. Hopefully NK15 is right about SS being jester. Responding to a case on you with "yo the guy wanting you to lynch me is a fuckin jester" is really weird.
Plus this conversation is clearly one of those that's gonna be a distraction forever.
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I heard sheep is in middle school, guys.
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So what's the utility of this continued conversation for the rest of us exactly?- Mathdino
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Can't say I disagree. The lack of NKs makes this easy mode. Pretty sure you're town so with one mafia left, and since I'll probably locktown someone else eventually, I'm pretty sure we win as long as we lynch non jesters.In post 280, JaydragonKing wrote:The entire site is going to know about it at this rate.
And between you and me Dino? I'm literally up to hang anyone at this point. Don't tell the others.
I'd volunteer for it but that would immediately make everyone think I'm jester, which would hurt the plan- Mathdino
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Don't make me paranoid of youIn post 285, JaydragonKing wrote:I also have a thought... If we say both me and Dino are town at this rate, we can hang literally everyone who's not Jester until there's just me and him left. Then we win!
Let's focus on hanging not jesters who seem like scum.- Mathdino
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The conversation made me think you're more likely to be scum.
If you're not (or, I guess, even if you are), I'm comfortable putting SS in the possible jester pool and lynching someone else as our 3rd.- Mathdino
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Lining up lynches after we already nailed 1 mafia. It's unlikely mafia is gonna act like jester.In post 251, Not Known 15 wrote:Hmmmmmmmmm... defending yourself against a jester accusation? I think we should lynch Something Smart on Day 4.
Makes me less comfortable about my scumread on him.In post 255, Something_Smart wrote:My current thoughts are to lynch me and NK in either order and then keep Jay and Math alive.
Naturally paranoia makes me think "oh shit what if he's saying exactly the thing that makes me think he's helpful town" but that can be dealt with later.
This weird repetition feels like LAMIST-y signalling. Can't defend yourself so you defend some other player. Also seemingly more fixated on who jester is than who scum is.In post 256, Not Known 15 wrote:Do not lynch this one tomorrow, or today. Don't.- Mathdino
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sorry what'd you sayIn post 304, Assembaa wrote:considering vi atm
cuz i heard you say "lylo liability"
but correct me if i'm wrong *shrug*- Mathdino
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k so until jingle tells us to shut up we should just assume the game is continuing
gonna do a looksie and find non-jesters
i will honest to god hammer myself if you put me at l-1 because i know i'm not jester and that i'm a safe lynch
the fact that i said that will unfortunately make you think i'm jester but whatever- Mathdino
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NK15 made enough sense about SS for me to be extremely suspicious
arguing against a N_M policy lynch when N_M policy lynch is optimal strategy in every game is pretty jesterish
VOTE: Heartless
obv not jester, haven't gotten super townish vibes from them either- Mathdino
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Okay honestly literally everyone so far has given more jester tells than Heartless.
Assembaa: Generally acts like a jester, claimed jester then took it back.
Aristophanes: "I WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE SAFE BEFORE I COMMIT" oh pls
ethos: The earliest currently alive jester claim
Jay: I mean I think he's town but if you guys all think he's jester then I guess we're not lynching him.
SS: Hard-defended Not_Mafia.
Nothing Heartless has done indicates jester. I think he's more likely scum that's given up after our quicklynch on his partner.
Edit: Okay guys we'll know who's jester tomorrow. The point is that Heartless is not jester, so vote him if you're actually not a jester. If you are, then of course you're gonna hold off on a lynch.- Mathdino
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ethos, parking a vote on yourself is literally a jester claim
literally no one will ever vote you at this point
if you're town (or even scum i guess) just help move the game along
if you're jester, carry on tbh- Mathdino
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lol ethos is actually probably scum now that i think about it
has a jester read on someone, then reverses it to "i think you're stupid for thinking i'm jester"
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wait no that just implies ethos is actually the jester
i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about
scum vs jester is weird shit
Edit: aaaand glad to see you're not jester- Mathdino
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i assume at this point that jester can only be Ari or SS- Mathdino
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i've seen this done beforeIn post 361, Assembaa wrote:rvs scumclaiming with a partner is in no way suicidal scum
riskier in a nightless game but still- Mathdino
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Fuck. I assume that was a reaction test, ethos. If it wasn't, it functioned as one for me.
Jay townread dissipating.
I'd like to lynch whichever of Ari and SS is still alive tomorrow. Lay-low scum and whatnot. But I need to find a solid townread to PoE this.- Mathdino
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Assume we haven't won yet until Jingle posts. Also lowkey assuming the jester is one of you and is trolling. But assuming not...
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