Open 706: C9++

[Sleepless Assassin]

You do, but you don't always use the "scum claim" line or do it in your first post in the game. I'm honestly more concerned with PoE, associatives, Schism's play, and your play today anyway.

[CheekyTeeky]

Since I have a strong feeling SA is going to be NK after her claim I would prefer we go with her lynch choice today. If that doesn't end the game then it most likely will leave me with Joda, OGML and AC which honestly terrifies me when Joda has shifted her read on me today and OGML is TRing Joda. If we lynch Joda first and she's town then that will leave us with kat, AC and OGML, which will likely lead to OGML lynch which I'm not sure is right over Kat. I'm very convinced scum is in Kat but unsure between Joda and OGML.

[CheekyTeeky]

Like I would do it in this order if we had time Kat > Joda > OGML. I just hate the idea of hard defending the OGML slot all D2 and leading us to a loss. But I'm going to back myself and say it's def between Jod and Kat.

[Katyusha]

Which is why I’m fine selfing after discussion

Also cheeky we’re in mylo, ogml can’t be lynched because that would require me to be on that wagon or hammertested

Ogml/cheeky/Kat/ac mylo leads to me being lynched more than likely

[Katyusha]

You do, but you don't always use the "scum claim" line or do it in your first post in the game. I'm honestly more concerned with PoE, associatives, Schism's play, and your play today anyway.

She

Selfhammered

Ofc it’s a scumclaim lmao

Not sure what’s wrong with my play today but the rest is understandable

[Sleepless Assassin]

By that logic, this would be a scum claim too:

VOTE: joda

dont have anything else to add, if i'm l-1 i will probably self once everyone says theyre fine ending the day

[Almost Chara]

Like I would do it in this order if we had time Kat > Joda > OGML. I just hate the idea of hard defending the OGML slot all D2 and leading us to a loss. But I'm going to back myself and say it's def between Jod and Kat.

Would you lynch Joda today if I promise to vote kat tomorrow (if there IS a tomorrow)?

~A50

[Sleepless Assassin]

Jod is town though...

[CheekyTeeky]

There are a couple of things that bother me about a scumJoda.

1. All the TRs today
2. The Elmo push on her Day 1 regarding her randomness on the self vote.

AC if you can ease my mind about these I might be willing. What can I do to help with the Kat read? I feel you haven't taken the awkward twilight posts into consideration or the general intent in posting today.

[Almost Chara]

I don't know about the first point, but the second could easily be written off as distancing (the wagon on Joda never got too serious anyway).

Kat, otoh, hasn't done anything I would SR her for, and I find it hard to see BOTH her and Schism earning TRs from me, playing the same slot.

Granted, an unbiased VCA makes it more likely Schism (3rd vote on Assemble's wagon) is scum than Joda's (3rd on fitz, right after cy's), BUT as I'm fairly convinced MAFAI shot fitz I can see them both jumping on him (probably saw something I didn't that made him obv!SK to them, or maybe even though he was a PR of some sort and wanted a claim).

I mean, I really can't get over my conf!bias here, and it's bc I SR Joda since the middle of D1 and never had a doubt since then. She never managed to convince me she was Town.

Worthy o note Elmo never ended a day voting a partner, and neither did cy, and Joda never ended the day voting either of them. OGML -at least- ended D2 voting cy, and Schism wasn't even here on D2, so I'll take Kat's lynch with again of salt if Joda isn't Scum.

~A50

[Almost Chara]

As for the twilight posts, look at her join date. Also consider that I have seen MUCH crazier shit from the likes of Firebringer & Alisae (just to name a couple). I don't know about Kat but with an avatar like that I wouldn't put it past them to be that weird (I mean, sheepsaysmeep also comes to mind)

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok I'm going to rescour today's posts. I think it will say a lot.

[CheekyTeeky]

so joda - if you're town help me see why SA busses here when he can easily lynch my slot instead of his scum partners

Yeah town.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok there are too many iffy interactions with Joda and Elmo/cy that don't make sense. Kat is actually pretty towny when I get over my bias so that leaves OGML through PoE which I hate to admit because I was convinced that slot was town.

I want to lynch OGML today. I will make a better case later.

[CheekyTeeky]

It kind of makes sense that the game died because you guys had the scumteam nailed from the start.

[CheekyTeeky]

We win with a OGML > Joda lynch imo.

[CheekyTeeky]

There are literally no interactions between the elmo/cy/chip slots day 1

[CheekyTeeky]

Okay, one of my games just ended (micro 756 if you want to see my scum game), and anothet just went into night, so I can focus more attention here now...

Please refrain from mentioning ongoing games.

The game is over though.

Elmo's 1 and only post acknowledging chip. He's seeing chips posts but doesn't give a read on him at any point.

[CheekyTeeky]

Cy's 474 convinces me Kat is town.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm not gonna ignore a mislynch that I think scum would have jumped on just because I could be implicated by it. That would be poor scum hunting.

It's your wording in how you did it that set me off, not the fact that you did it.

What do you think of Schism's assertion that scum avoided the wagon combined with the fact that Schism was on the wagon?

[I was hoping we'd have another post from Schism by now but...] I find that pretty scummy

Does anyone in particular stand out as scummy for doing that?

Cheeky and Schism both do, to an extent. Moreso Schism, who kind of plus ones Almost Chara when they place the initial Joda vote but waits until Cheeky also votes Joda before jumping on the wagon. Cheeky was a little more natural, with her discussion of Joda coming just before AC made their vote. But the phrase Cheeky uses when she actually votes in 509 ("Joda will be a good lynch for information also") never fails to ping my scumdar. A so-called information lynch is really bad for town when we're possibly one lynch away from being in LyLo. And why does Cheeky need to hedge with the line about lynching for information when in 503 she says "something in my gut is screaming she's scum"?

I'd like to point out the Cy did show up since I posted but managed to ignore me altogether.

VOTE: cytheflyguy

MOD: Votecount Please?

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see what you said. I'll read back to catch up.

Interaction with OGML is bad. OGML looking to get on a wagon but cases both me and schism then votes Cy because he didn't respond to something...which Cy says he will but totally doesn't because lolscumteam.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok it's pretty clear - credit to Dave MVP if this is right.

VOTE: OhGodMyLife

[Jodaxq]

474 is a good argument for Kat/Schism town. I still don't like her read on Cheeky, and if OGML is town then I think it's Kat.

VOTE: OhGodMyLife

[Sleepless Assassin]

So if it's Kat, we're going to lose anyway

*sigh*

Better hope my second choice is right then.

Unvote, Vote OGML

Also not gonna protect Almost Chara tonight if we're wrong here. I'm pretty convinced it's Kat and Almost Chara isn't willing to vote there. Why would I protect someone who won't vote the person I think is scum in LYLO?

[CheekyTeeky]

AC, Kat let's goooo

[Katyusha]

Not voting yet, I'm still not really sold here because I don't see why Elmo self-hammers when OGML gives intent but I'll try to look over the game without my initial bias there.