Anything uPick? (Endgame)

[mastina]

Do you think scum lovederizer rolecop would ever be a thing?

Explicitly so yes especially since I know from a typo in my role PM that my role was originally meant to be a hatedizer which was at some point in the design process changed to a lovederizer, RC just missed a spot when he changed the role PM. (If I had to guess, I'd say that instead of "when the condition is met, loved", it was "when the condition is not met, hated". But since this is speculating about what is assured to be a past iteration of the role, i.e. a nonexistent role that doesn't actually exist in this game, it's largely irrelevant which is why I didn't mention it before.)

Role != alignment. And play > role.

what's to say she couldn't make her scumbuddies loved? granted, i'm not sure how balanced that would be.

Fun fact: the name of the ability is lolbalance.

[mastina]

there's nothing to suggest mastina is telling the truth about anything, yet.

Sure, except a long-standing meta of me not lying as scum spanning literally all my fucking scumgames across my entire 300+ game mafiascum career.

You know, the sort of thing which sure technically I could break at any point if I deemed it advantageous to do so but yet which I never do because my experience has been that my philosophy of "the best lie is the truth" has been the most advantageous for me every single time.

read up to page 4: fire, mastina and yume town. I'll read up eventually
also lolgamma

This sounds familiar.

[mastina]

@mastina

- Read up to this point and talk to me about Gamma please <3

Meh.

That's my thoughts there.

Shrugs.

Could be scum could be town.

Also could very very very very very very VERY easily wagon Nosferatu, so.

[mastina]

UNVOTE: WhemePlay
Not sure if anyone around currently is worth voting for
also how tf did I miss Ginngie in that list of common players

'not sure if anyone around currently is worth voting for'
I'll take thoughts villagers never have for 300
-tor

Given my sentiments at the time were identical?

Tough luck, it's thoughts villagers can and have had because I am town and I had that thought.

she is not though. she is just calling it bullshit because it sounds like bullshit. I don't see OFG casing you or explaining how your claim makes you >rand to be scum.

Still like my vote here tho for what it's worth.

[mastina]

I'm assuming OFG is maki and if I'm right she is very villagery in this game

Which is a scumtell for her.

[Yume]

Any questions for me?

[Mathdino]

Any questions for me?

Yeah.

1. What the fuck are actually your & Tarou's roles? Leave out anything excessively anti-town to claim (like bulletproof or some shit).

2. Please give a post by post tl;dr of your PT. Nothing overdone. I need verification you actually talked to each other.

3. Why did you claim Taro was a compulsive BG on someone else and that was why you weren't shooting him?

4. Taro seems 100% sure you're town for some reason. How sure are you that he's town?

5. Most of your content has cycled around your role business. Give reads.

[mastina]

Mastina would totally fakeclaim that post restriction btw.

Except, no I fucking wouldn't?

Did it once, have no need to fake a damn restriction again.

I don't know how I got a reputation for faking shit.
When the simple fact is.
I don't fucking fake shit.
Except when I do, but those are cases where it is clear and unambiguous what I was doing with the faking. The exceptions which prove the rule of me not fucking faking shit.

[Yume]

By the way, for me to be scum, it requires me to deceive both Tarou and mastina, which is impossible for me to do.

Answers:

1. Vig and a compulsive bodyguard.
2. Taro claims. I claim. We discuss reads and strategy for the remainder of the PT.
3. I never claimed he was BG on someone else. I claimed he was BG on X. It was you who assumed that X is someone else.
4. 90%.
5. I scumread you, north, and to an extend, Smoke. I am still trying to determine the alignment of others.

[mastina]

Bit hypocritical math

Indeed it is. Math has solidly been not-a-townread in case you haven't noticed.

[mastina]

But I want mastina to talk to me about Gamma, because I could easily wrong here.

I don't see why given I basically lack Gamma experience though my inclination is still more town than scum.

[mastina]

No idea what the Creature wagon is about but it feels like a policy/unexplained meta lynch to me, which I'm not into at all this early. I felt like the weird Firebringer vs NSG battle over essentially "paranoia" was TvT more than anything.

Firebringer started off super scummy but then like became obv. town through that push (I've only played one game with scumfire which was blatant active lurking) I don't know what I make of them claiming vig then not - possible SK to look at later on?

NSG seems quite scummy but it does look like she gets frozen as scum so the back and forth real time kind of destroys her scum meta here. Also taking into account she only has 3 completed games makes it unlikely that she has turned up her confidence that much as scum. I would like to hear more from her.

Did the NSG wagon disband for any particular reason? It seems like I'm missing the point where it pivots onto creature.

Yume if you're a real vig, is it a day vig? and if so I like Dino's idea of using it on Creature so we can lynch stronger scum reads unless it ends the day.

Espeonage who do you scum read at this point?

What do people make of the Mali hydra vs Belli hydra?

~ C

Hellooooooooooo scum.
Which would make NSG pretty town btw.

[Mathdino]

Shit I skimmed over that post.

@CD (or Tora):

Has CD literally ever played with Creature before?

[Yume]

Some music to get your blood pumping.

[mastina]

VOTE: Torn up
The fact you're trying to implicate we're in a 1v1 along with saying no reasoning or anything helpful for that matter makes that post really shit. Saying they're not a sr is avoiding to step on toes.

Now that's a real bad vote.
OMGUS if I ever saw it.

Actually it's one of the main reasons I'd buy OFG being town. Torn Up's posting is

abysmal

. Both heads, really, but ESPECIALLY the CheekyTeeky head who I've come to expect better of than what I've seen.

[Ginngie]

Shit I skimmed over that post.

@CD (or Tora):

Has CD literally ever played with Creature before?

oh wow

you found what bases my Torn scumread

ya'll finally catching up lmao

[Mathdino]

Would be easier if you explained your shit in more than one liners.

I caught up by skimming ISO's, not by reading straight through 60 pages of 2/3 of what's left of a Twitter feed.

[Ginngie]

I'm in a very social period of college right now and spend little to no time on my computer so twitter is what ya get.

I can lead you to the path to victory but you gotta understand sometimes I just don't have the time to explain it.

If it helps you, read anything mastina posts and echo that onto me. mastina taught me so whatever she thinks, I do.

She explains the reads, I just push them.

[mastina]

No idea what the Creature wagon is about but it feels like a policy/unexplained meta lynch to me, which I'm not into at all this early.
Yume if you're a real vig, is it a day vig? and if so I like Dino's idea of using it on Creature so we can lynch stronger scum reads unless it ends the day.

cheeky, if you're uncomfortable with the creature wagon why would you want him to be vigged?

A good question indeed.

ofg seems like scum from the interaction with espeonage, who seems like town.

Esp as town yes and OFG as scum possible, but I wouldn't bank on it.

also, creature is obvscum.
VOTE: creature

While he was, I still question why you voted him when the rest of your post seemed to indicate a Torn Up vote was where you were headed.

That being said,

Okay, I retract my northsidegal townread.

I actually buy NSG as town from this. Yes, not hard to fake. No, I don't think it was faked. Call it tone, call it gut, call it whatever, I don't think it was scum theater.

[mastina]

Meant to give an updated readslist.
Yume
Espeonage
northsidegal
WhemePlay
Chickadee
Gamma Emerald
ObsessedFanGrill
Smocaine
Mathdino
Nosferatu
Torn Up

As of the bottom of 25.

[mastina]

Why aren't you spamming your mason pt btw?

Eighth point, I need to check my mason PT, since it's hard to do on my phone right now. Hopefully my final two posts can be in there, since I plan to not post more in here today.

^

Also I have a good idea who your mason buddy is so you better trust me.

Oh right you probably thought my 'masonbuddy' was Gamma.
I saw Gamma's posts early on and my more or less positive treatment of Gamma and realized he'd probably be interpreted as being that, which I was okay with because frankly I wanted him to take a bullet for the 'masonry'.

In that sense, I thought him more likely to be town than not though did note it was possible he was scum white knighting in a sense.

Seventh point, when all else fails, realistically speaking, I'm probably sheeping Ginngie. She is town, so I trust her to scumhunt competently.
Ideally. We'd hash things out together, but failing that, I'll just trust her.

Wait you don't trust me to scumhunt competently feelsbadman

I trust you to be a competent scumhunter.
I am somewhat hesitant to trust you to actually be scumhunting, by which, I mean, be town.

[mastina]

The last like five games with town!mastina I’ve played wshe tunnels town and defended scum

For what it's worth I know for a fact this is not the case because Aristophanes's Yume's Cutsie UPick was within his last five games with me and there I never defended scum and was mostly right on my scumreads. Aside from Alisae, which from that game is why I have stated I lack the ability to read em.

are you saying that you're finding too many people scummy in this game?

The opposite, not enough. At the time at least.

@mastina: homework: go reread communication, then reread every game I played with scum reck and scum fate, then come in here and tell me why you aren't voting ofg ty.
It is important to me that you remember to trust my reads after I die.

A combination of me not being sure of them being scum, me knowing I can't read them, them making some good points I happen to agree with, and interactions not meshing as scumbuddies with others who I am scumreading.

[mastina]

Honestly
the scumteam is probably just Nos, Hinduragi, Espeonage, and Creature

WRONG MORTAL!

It's probably 3/5 tho, because Nos is still probably scum. There's nothing town about Nosferatu.

Shut the fuck up dino and replace out if all ur going to do is complain

I mean.
He's probably scum with that, so.

[mastina]

can we get more votes on firebringer
say what you will about creaturescum, he's not actively hurting the game
let the vigs get him

Edit: fuck you ACB

*cough*
>More votes on Firebringer (town), rather than Creature (scum)
>Says to leave Creature for the vigs.
>Firebringer was a claimed vig.
>Still wanted votes to go from Creature to Firebringer.

[Ginngie]

can we get more votes on firebringer
say what you will about creaturescum, he's not actively hurting the game
let the vigs get him

Edit: fuck you ACB

*cough*
>More votes on Firebringer (town), rather than Creature (scum)
>Says to leave Creature for the vigs.
>Firebringer was a claimed vig.
>Still wanted votes to go from Creature to Firebringer.

holy fuck wait

dino fucking explain lmfao