Open 708: Pick Your Poison - Game Over

[Moneybags]

Why would he claim IC if he isn't. The mod would just not confirm him and he'd be lynched for fakeclaiming IC.

[TesXX]

Mod announcement!

The lab is confirming that Flubbernugget is innocent.

Also prodding CoA[/b]

[Maxous]

right good.
we have 1 confirmed PR and 2 other claims

@everyone: in your next post please confirm if you are VT or if you are counterclaiming one of the claimed PR's. Thank you

there's no point hiding this with 3 claims out in the open and this eliminates any future counter-claiming nonsense

i'm confirming VT
Beefster also claimed VT

[Transcend]

Nice fucking job!

[Moneybags]

VT.
Later today I'll pour over the game in context of the confirmed town and see what I get. In context of flub being IC brings to mind stuff like Tex's out of place omgus claim.

[TesXX]

Vote Count 1.7

Flubbernugget

(3): texcat, Thor665, HeWhoSwims

Beefster

(2): CultOfAthena, Flubbernugget

mozamis

(2): Beefster, RadiantCowbells

Moneybags

(1): Transcend

Errantparabola

(1): Maxous

HeWhoSwims

(1): mozamis

texcat

(1): Klick

Not Voting

(2): Moneybags, Errantparabola

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-01-24 20:00:56)

[texcat]

Well, carp. That's a revolting development.
UNVOTE:

I would have cc'd long before now, if I were not VT.

[Moneybags]

Well, carp. That's a revolting development.
UNVOTE:

I would have cc'd long before now, if I were not VT.

Cc'd who exactly? Why would it have at all made sense to out as the 3rd pr, if that's what you meant?

[Flubbernugget]

Beefster's reevaluation doesn't look natural

What re-evaluation?

Yeah, I have time to talk about this now.

First, we can dissect all the lamist bullshit in 632. I misread it as a re-evaluation as opposed to a flat-out submission, but my issue in it lies elsewhere. First, "saying lynch me for info" doesn't solve the game. It absolves you from having to take responsibility for your actions, and it flat-out

does not

assist town. It gives you a free pass to do nothing, which is actually creating

less

information for town.

Lets look at this compared to the rest of your ISO. There's no frustration. There's no considerations or evaluations that your reads may actually be wrong. There's just this "gut" thing being thrown out to look good.

But...very interestingly...your scum reads got called out for the entirety of the page before 632. You got caught, and cracked under the pressure.

My town read on you stemmed from you being self-aware, but I now see that it was just a sign of you needing to leave your reads open to hide from suspicion.

I dinged Beefster for bad logic earlier in the game and he admitted it was bad logic and adjusted.
How does that reaction fit into this theory case of yours?

I have never indicated in any way shape or form that I agreed with your meta read.
I have repeatedly indicated I thought your reads were made up and asked you to back them up.
I agree it's a small thing - which is why your inability/refusal to provide it is a big thing.

Please prove you weren't lying to try to call me scum in a scummy way.
Any century now?

This is a lie.

You did not ask me to back my reads up. You asked me to back my meta read of you up (apparently...I still think you used wishy washy language to give yourself breathing room for a push). I had a whole wall of town reads you have made no mention of, yet you still have evidence that I'm faking my reads? hahaha no.

You never actually commented on why I thought tex was scum. You voted me on some other fake grounds as to how I'm reading you.

You voting for me over texcat and then backpedaling to explain why I am scum shows preferential treatment of one player to another. That is scum motivated.

You pushing me to be attentive to the game at a higher standard than other players shows preferential treatment of one player to another. That is scum motivated.

There are a lot of whines here.
None of them are backing up your BS meta claim.

You better be IC - it's the only way my vote is coming off you.

Absolutely fucking insane that you'd entertain me lying about the IC claim.

The almighty Thor is withering away in old age.

[Flubbernugget]

There are less votes on Beefster than before I claimed IC, and no other viable wagon is popping up. There are three days before deadline. Get your shit together before today ends in a no lynch.

Thank you.

[texcat]

Well, carp. That's a revolting development.
UNVOTE:

I would have cc'd long before now, if I were not VT.

Cc'd who exactly? Why would it have at all made sense to out as the 3rd pr, if that's what you meant?

We almost certainly had an IC in the game. So if I had a PR, for example if I were a jailkeeper, I would have know that either Transcend or RC was lying about their role, and I would have claimed. I guess that's not exactly a cc.

[Maxous]

VT.
Later today I'll pour over the game in context of the confirmed town and see what I get. In context of flub being IC brings to mind stuff like Tex's out of place omgus claim.

If we get 3 confirmed town I'll pore over some VC's and the like myself.

[Flubbernugget]

Both of you are on shitty vanity wagons

Step the fuck up

[texcat]

VT.
Later today I'll pour over the game in context of the confirmed town and see what I get. In context of flub being IC brings to mind stuff like Tex's out of place omgus claim.

If we get 3 confirmed town I'll pore over some VC's and the like myself.

Do you really think someone is lying about their claim? I think we already have 3 confirmed town.

[Maxous]

it's possible.
regardless if i'm gonna go back and do a big time-consuming analysis, i would like it absolutely confirmed first

[Beefster]

Money, moz, or COA. One of these three is today's lynch.

[Transcend]

I Like aggressive flubber

[RadiantCowbells]

There are less votes on Beefster than before I claimed IC, and no other viable wagon is popping up. There are three days before deadline. Get your shit together before today ends in a no lynch.

Thank you.

You can vote fucking moz

[CultOfAthena]

Reading through now.

I'm VT.

[Moneybags]

RC wasn't one of your main arguments on moz that they were not voting their teammate flubber? I'm not sure how well it holds up outside of that.

[RadiantCowbells]

It was actually only important in the context of my read on flubber

[Flubbernugget]

I Like aggressive flubber

You're not cute

Vote for someone in lynch range today

[RadiantCowbells]

Flubber vote moz, go onto ep, or take the long shot you're obviously interested in in Thor but I don't like beefster without a scum flip on the right people beforehand

[Transcend]

Well i don't want beef or moz

[RadiantCowbells]

Well I want you transcend.