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[Thor665]

I'm not voting Profii - I'm voting Sauce.

[profii]

yep, missed the bold tag,

unofficially take 4

Sauce: acryon, thor665
Lalendra: Dunkers
Flavor Leaf(L-3): rb, profii, lalendra
profii(L-3): flavour leaf, hyung, sauce

n/v - eth0s

[Lalendra]

Well so much for the unofficial VC, lol.

That makes twice - I am really starting to think profii is intentionally and subtly manipulating the "unofficial VC's" and hoping no one will catch it.

[profii]

lack of mod vc's (sorry mod! )

where i used to play,i would get get all the flips and colour in the votes with town/scum/pr - it then became my meta and people would vote me if i didnt do it, but i always got it wrong so even though i find it beneficial, i hate doing it because i end up incriminating myself just like this

[Thor665]

@Lal - To what end?

[Lalendra]

Causing late-game confusion when people are trying to do VCA and using inaccurate vote counts and then everyone ends up arguing over who voted who and when instead of trying to find scum.

[profii]

It’s either correcting within 1 post or going via saucys plan and you can DIY it

[Lalendra]

Except that most town are too lazy to do that and will just take what you said at face value, like I did the first time.

[Thor665]

Causing late-game confusion when people are trying to do VCA and using inaccurate vote counts and then everyone ends up arguing over who voted who and when instead of trying to find scum.

I've never seen that happen ever - but if it does late game this time I'll adjust my take.

[Lalendra]

Maybe just my paranoia. I still have a TR on profii but it did stand out to me.

[Lalendra]

Also I don't think you can really use the outcome of the gambit to determine whether or not there was, in fact, a gambit. It's entirely possible that the plan is tried and fails; that doesn't make it less of a gambit.

[Thor665]

I'll agree with that.
But the gambit seems like such a stretch - at some point late game he's hoping people will VCA off his counts and get a little confused?

[Lalendra]

I've seen stretchier gambits. Hell, look at FL's role flailing.

[Archwing]

VOTECOUNT 1.07

Sauce(1):

acryon

Lalendra(1):

Dunkerdoodles

Flavor Leaf(3):

rb, profii, Lalendra

profii(4):

Thor665, Flavor Leaf, hyung, Sauce

Not Voting(1):

eth0s

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2018-01-28 11:48:37)

Mod Notes: acryon V/LA until Tuesday morning
Will start loooking for replacements for hyung and Flavor Leaf.

[Thor665]

I've seen stretchier gambits. Hell, look at FL's role flailing.

I find that to be a gambit with far better results.

[Thor665]

Heck, apparentlt per mod he was correct.

Vote: Saiuce

VOTE: Sauce

[eth0s]

I don’t care anymore. I’m doing my best to give my thoughts on everything and explaining everything, but it literally doesn’t matter what I say to certain people. So I’m not going to play here anymore. It’s not fun for me, and it’s not even playing the game.

Next time I play a game and don’t speak in it, this is why. Because certain players will vote and funnel me endlessly no matter what I do, so there’s no point in playing the game in those cases.

Don't make 5 different claims?

Don't AtE everyone second post?

Your behaviour and enjoyment are in your own hands really.

Wow. I agree with rb on something.

[rb]

unofficially

Sauce: acryon
Lalendra: Dunkers
Flavor Leaf(L-3): rb, profii, lalendra
profii(L-2): Thor665, flavour leaf, hyung, sauce

n/v - eth0s

For some reason I thought the deadline was sooner. Okay well I guess we can wriggle a bit.

Thor: why is Sauce the scummiest player in the game for you?

What do you think of eth0s play so far?

[Archwing]

Welcome, Kop, who replaces hyung!
Welcome, Jodaxq, who replaces Flavor Leaf!

Thanks for replacing in.

[profii]

just out of interest does my vote on the FL spot stand and does the hyung vote on me stand in this scenario

[Lalendra]

Sorry Jodaxq, you're replacing into a tough spot.

[acryon]

I'm actually feeling rather confident in my reads this game.

Acryon, you're scum. You were buddying up to me because I looked like I could be getting lynched and you were going to get the town cred from it. You started white knighting me, and with my gimmick, which I've been trying to do things like this in my games lately, Day 1's are meh to me, and I get in a lot of 1v1's.

Did you really think it ever looked like you could be getting lynched today?

acryon = any thought on Dunker / Flavour / Lalendra town reading Saucy, who you appear to scum read?

They're all likely wrong. It's confusing to me how anyone could be town-reading him right now. It's also confusing to me how anyone could be scumreading Flavor, but I've also played with Boon a handful of times in the past so maybe that's more of a gut thing.

There was absolutely no reason as scum for me to be polarizing the group. That’s bad on y’all except the scum, and will continue to shout that in the dead thread after.

This is what I tried to tell the town earlier

well I'm @ L-2, thor, eth0s, FL, hyung.

VOTE: profii

As I said in my 2nd post, it's not the worst thing if a VT dies & you can have a think about whoever throws down the hammer.
I strongly recommend you consider how manipulative FL has been today and weather you really believe his PR claim before hammering.

GL town!

Self-voting is anti-town 100% of the time. Don't do it.

just out of interest does my vote on the FL spot stand and does the hyung vote on me stand in this scenario

Yes.

Ok all caught up from the weekend. FL replacing out sucks. He was helpful. His reads weren't great but he was obvtown IMO.

@Kop & Jodaxq: To make your lives easier, just vote Sauce and let's move on.

[Sauce]

VOTECOUNT 1.07

Sauce(1):

acryon

Lalendra(1):

Dunkerdoodles

Thor665(1):

Sauce

Flavor Leaf(3):

rb, profii, Lalendra

profii(4):

Thor665, Flavor Leaf, hyung, Sauce

Not Voting(1):

eth0s

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2018-01-28 11:48:37)

Mod Notes: acryon V/LA until Tuesday morning
Will start loooking for replacements for hyung and Flavor Leaf.

profii and Thor are so scummy the mod let's me vote both of them. Good on you

@Mod

I won't be voting for Thor again for a couple of more minutes, though, most intelligent person in the -game prerogative notwithstanding.

@acryon .. .... .......

Oh, you're finished.
VOTE: acryon

Sorry, my mistake. Your vote on Thor was from a previous VC. I have edited VC 1.07 to reflect the proper vote.

[Archwing]

just out of interest does my vote on the FL spot stand and does the hyung vote on me stand in this scenario

The votes stay until the current player unvotes or votes for a different player.

[profii]

I can't imagine scum playing this recklessly so I'm not going to endorse any vote there.

Reckless how?

Putting a giant target on his head by not posting a single original comment. Best-case scenario he looks like unhelpful town which often end up being lynch-worthy.

Not seeing a stark contrast between Leaf's iso and that of the likes of rb and Dunker. Are you sure it's not just the extravagant color choice that appeases you?

I wouldn't go around townreading anyone whose posts lack effort, value, relevance, purpose, honesty, fearlessness, immediacy, clarity and joy based on nothing but wifom / too scummy to be scum, but hey, I'm town.

You call literally everything WIFOM. His play so far does not seem helpful for the scumteam if he is scum. He's drawing reactions; he's placing a target on himself.

RB and Dunker have played similarly so far, but they have played very differently from Leaf. If you don't see much of a contrast, I think you need to take another look.

If you look at Flavor's ISO he literally hasn't posted a word other than votes and those boxes with reads in.

I know some fairly basic roles but a lot I have to wiki as I go - is it possible that he has a role that means he can only do what he has been doing, or is he just being elusive for fun

This isn't a theme game so I'm guessing no.

Flavor = no content
Sauce = over the top content

sure?

Hot take: I actually think Flavor has provided more content than Sauce.

I can't imagine scum playing this recklessly so I'm not going to endorse any vote there.

Reckless how?

Putting a giant target on his head by not posting a single original comment. Best-case scenario he looks like unhelpful town which often end up being lynch-worthy.

My point on flavour is in your posts

Compare the last sentence in post 98 - he provides content
And
Post 89 - putting a giant target on his back by posting no content.


Obviously we are around 600 pages on and things have been said but my theory is by posting in that particular style, some people will see the content as you did (ie they are probably people who have similar reads and may evenl reciprocate with giving FL a town read)

Other people will say wtf is this no content scum bs (etc)

By polarising the group in this way he can see quite quickly if he has a big enough faux-town-block and encourage them to lynch whoever they think they want to go for as long as a) not his scum mate, b) he doesn’t lead it. Scum are then in the driving seat

Sounds audacious? Agreed but this game is all about trying to drive an agenda without anyone knowing. Everyone seems to indicate FL is a strong player so I think he could be capable


I’m happy to hear out Jodaxq obviously