Someone needs to update the wiki. ;3In post 8, Mathdino wrote: I'm going to base this on the argument that C9++ is, in practice, balanced. Its history seems to suggest so. However,town has only won 1/8 JK9++ games before I won the last one. The most recent iteration had an extremely imbalanced playerlist (D1 non-bus scum lynch) and only 2 mafia.
Had look back into the Open Game Queue to see if anything really barred a role from not showing up in an Open. Didn't see anything besides announcing that a role has the possibility of showing up and providing a sample PM, so let's take a crack at it.Fixing this:
- Any ideas for giving town more power here? Be sure to read the setup first.
- Vengeful needs to be removed, as no one will actually lynch them.
- Rolecop should be changed to Gunsmith.
Alternatively instead of giving town more power, we could limit the amount of power that scum has. Maybe add a role modifier to the Mafia JOAT, if that's allowed in Open.
- Replace the Tracker and 1-Shot Tracker with a Deputy.
- Deputy is an alignment cop backup instead of a role cop. Figuring out the roles is equivalent to finding out someone's alignment because it's an Open setup with no repeating roles in both alignments i.e. Mafia Doctor and Town Doctor. For Goons, the role cop is useless because Goons show up as "Vanilla". In the game we played, Kop backed off of his vote on my slot. He was on the right track, but I think getting the result 'Vanilla' ruined the potential to catch me, the last mafia because I was a Goon. Ultimately, Role Cop is good for catching Mafia PRs and the SK, but not Mafia Goons which is dangerous for the town if they rely on the Cop too much.
- I was going to suggest a Weak Doctor, then realized it's basically another Hider. So... Forget that idea.
- Maybe swap out Town Jailkeeper with Town Role Stopper that blocks kills. According to the wiki, it's a stronger protective role if it can block NKs.
- Maybe swap out the Vengeful with Hated - after they've been lynched they can add on the Hated role modifier to someone who was on their bandwagon. Hated isn't as punishing as Vengeful, usually, and people could still push the lynch for the trade off that if the lynchee nailed the right person - scum or SK - then that could help the town push a lynch the next Day.
- Maybe swap out the Town Vigilante with a Town Bomb instead. I was going to suggest PGO but realized that that might kill a helpful town PR who wasn't a killing role.