Rocky Horror Picture Show - players suck, game over

[Vecna]

Michael Rennie was ill
The Day the Earth Stood Still
But he told us where we stand
And Flash Gordon was there
In silver underwear
Claude Rains was The Invisible Man
Then something went wrong
For Fay Wray and King Kong
They got caught in a celluloid jam
Then at a deadly pace
It Came From Outer Space
And this is how the message ran...

Science fiction (ooh ooh ooh) double feature
Doctor X (ooh ooh ooh) will build a creature
See androids fighting (ooh ooh ooh) Brad and Janet
Anne Francis stars in (ooh ooh ooh) Forbidden Planet
Wo oh oh oh oh oh
At the late night, double feature, picture show

I knew Leo G. Carroll
Was over a barrel
When Tarantula took to the hills
And I really got hot
When I saw Janette Scott
Fight a Triffid that spits poison and kills
Dana Andrews said prunes
Gave him the runes
And passing them used lots of skills
But When Worlds Collide
Said George Pal to his bride
I'm gonna give you some terrible thrills
Like a...

Science fiction (ooh ooh ooh) double feature
Doctor X (ooh ooh ooh) will build a creature
See androids fighting (ooh ooh ooh) Brad and Janet
Anne Francis stars in (ooh ooh ooh) Forbidden Planet
Wo oh oh oh oh oh
At the late night, double feature, picture show
I wanna go - Oh oh oh oh
To the late night, double feature, picture show
By R.K.O. - Wo oh oh oh
To the late night, double feature, picture show
In the back row - Oh oh oh oh
To the late night, double feature, picture show

[Vecna]

^ cult master 1/2 found

[Vecna]

Like you wouldve done a better job

[Vecna]

Cult leaders, do you guys have play or pause chat?

[Vecna]

In case point 1 of the game information didnt make it obvious yet.........Drealmerz really loves attention, so you probably should spam with with any (in)sane questions you have regarding the game, your role pm, life in general, or the menstrual cycle of your pigeon.

Being clueless about your role pm later on should not be a valid excuse anymore

[Vecna]

Ending the day quickly is the most retarded thing we can do in a situation with limited information.

In all likelyhood the only way to kill the cult masters is for some vig-type ability to shoot them in the motherfucking face.

Ending quickly gives us no information to find the cult masters. It allows the cult masters to recruit (saying it helps to prevent it is lol-bad, all it takes is one pm to the mod), and puts us at instant disadvantage.

[Vecna]

Michael Rennie was ill
The Day the Earth Stood Still
But he told us where we stand
And Flash Gordon was there
In silver underwear
Claude Rains was The Invisible Man
Then something went wrong
For Fay Wray and King Kong
They got caught in a celluloid jam
Then at a deadly pace
It Came From Outer Space
And this is how the message ran...

Science fiction (ooh ooh ooh) double feature
Doctor X (ooh ooh ooh) will build a creature
See androids fighting (ooh ooh ooh) Brad and Janet
Anne Francis stars in (ooh ooh ooh) Forbidden Planet
Wo oh oh oh oh oh
At the late night, double feature, picture show

I knew Leo G. Carroll
Was over a barrel
When Tarantula took to the hills
And I really got hot
When I saw Janette Scott
Fight a Triffid that spits poison and kills
Dana Andrews said prunes
Gave him the runes
And passing them used lots of skills
But When Worlds Collide
Said George Pal to his bride
I'm gonna give you some terrible thrills
Like a...

Science fiction (ooh ooh ooh) double feature
Doctor X (ooh ooh ooh) will build a creature
See androids fighting (ooh ooh ooh) Brad and Janet
Anne Francis stars in (ooh ooh ooh) Forbidden Planet
Wo oh oh oh oh oh
At the late night, double feature, picture show
I wanna go - Oh oh oh oh
To the late night, double feature, picture show
By R.K.O. - Wo oh oh oh
To the late night, double feature, picture show
In the back row - Oh oh oh oh
To the late night, double feature, picture show

Isn't this the first song in the movie

yes, my first post skills are on point, dontcha agree?

[Vecna]

I was specfically told that the neutrals have a chance at winning as well. It's whoever's the biggest at the end.

When we’re you told that fallacy?

I was told the same thing, survivors can win as survivors.

Just gotta find the way to kill of them cult masters. We win if we outnumber all other factions, and they have no way anymore of changing that balance.

So like, if u have a gun......shoot them cult masters?

[Vecna]

^ cult master 1/2 found

If you're so sure, why not emphasize that conviction with a vote?

Spotted the cult master attempting a dumbtell as a deflection mechanism

[Vecna]

Well when we see two people suddenly buddy up on day 2 we can assume they are now one of the cults. And most of us probably can't even do anything about that.

[Vecna]

I feel like all of the first cycle is going to be RVS and people just questioning how the game works, and I'm really not excited for that.

Lets bundle forces, we've already figured it out.

Now all we need to do is enslave the masses and bend their puny brains to our wills.

Man I wish I was a cult master, id be made for this shit.

[Vecna]

I'm not entirely sure what the votes are worth on Day 1. All we know is, that the person who got a majority didn't change alignment during the next pause. The Cult Leaders know who's immune as well and will target someone else. But we have no information about the alignment of the votee to start with.

I really hope that we do have some investigative power roles around here!

More dumbtelling or really just not in the mood to read or ask questions to the mod?

This post has more wrong information then the average trump speech. Impressive

[Vecna]

2 cults.

Both cannot recruit the same target.

1: Both will be afraid to try and recruit the same target.

2: Cults have some motivation to see who the immunity target will become, and stall their recruitment vote to maybe try and recruit the immunity person (the better long-term plan)

3: Cults have some motivation to be fast in deciding whom to recruit, in case the other cult were to decide on the same person (probably the best outcome for a cult is to be faster on recruiting the same person as the other cult)

4: SURVIVORS have a lot of motivation to actually get immunity on people. Having the cult steal the person that got voted immunity is a terrible outcome.

It will probably be imperative to create a strategy that abuses facts 1-3 to obtain #4

I propose the following:

We run up two individuals to have an equal ammount of votes. One designated person (ME) hammers between the two of them after a random ammount of time has passed.

I CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO NOT HAMMER ONCE THE VOTE IS TIED AT L1, BUT INSTEAD CALL FOR A DIFFERENT WAGON.

A good mix between having some randomness in who gets protection, and forcing the cults to outguess eachother and be in time to recruit, which gives us somewhat ok odds to either have a double recruit on the same person, or the cults to guess wrong, or for us to change the target entirely and actually get immunity pushed though.

CULTS will not know whether I hammer, or call for new wagons.

Fuck the police. Fuck the cults. Create chaos, and let order be born from it.

[Vecna]

You guys can leave your inter-personal drama at the door and marvel at my plan in pink

[Vecna]

I'm so bad I got Vecna and Venmar mixed up.

And here I was being sad to be called a negative nancy......

Calling beavis an Anime character might be even worse though

[Vecna]

To clarify - I thought I noticed someone else mention a wincon on the first couple of pages. I am lacking any kind of wincon.

Alright, I've had t! If a vig exists shoot both this and creature sometime in the future.

Giving away that you have no wincon = signaling the cult leaders to target you as a recruitable target. I tried to save you from yourself the first time, but you seem eager to be recruited.

I too have a cult master read on creature

[Vecna]

You guys can leave your inter-personal drama at the door and marvel at my plan in pink

Your pink plan neglects that there are 18 other people to recruit from. I don't see why CL's would risk a fail on our two wagons with so many fish in the sea.

But that is exactly the only outcome we can achieve that is beneficial for us today, no?

Either we give immunity to someone, and they have it for the rest of the game - or the cult steals him and we achieved NOTHING d1.

This game is gonna come down to a numbers game late-game. Early game fuckups on immunization will most likely fuck up any chance for the survivors to win.

Cba running the numbers but....im pretty sure anyone can see that actually getting immunity to land without that person being recruited is our main goal for today.

Shenanigans to ensure that are worthwhile.

[Vecna]

Because my many games playing with creature, gives me the ass-crack-itch feeling that he's trying really hard to apply his well-known "Blurt every random thought that comes to mind out into the thread" to appear like his usual town meta.....but his actual messages dont feel like town-creature but "forced" creature trying to appear like something he is not.

Yes, its a gut feeling. Im sure youre used to my crap by now.

[Vecna]

Also, Chickadee, my plan only works when im in charge.

Its because of the * ~ \ - ULTRA SECRET COMPONENT THAT IM HIDING - / ~ *

Im da boss

[Vecna]

Good news everyone!

Its Vecna Math time, here to explain you how this game works, and how we, the survivors win.

IVE ADDED PICTURES BELOW. OF NUMBERS. TO MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU

https://imgur.com/a/c80Qh

This table is very straight forward. It shows:

Give immunity to one person every night without them being recruited, and we win.

Its that simple. If we come up with a strategy to do that, the cult can never outnumber us. The assumption ive made here is that we have 2 recruitment immune people to start with. Given the movie this makes sense? Theres two main characters and two evil professors, so im assuming those two will have guns or w/e to kill the professors.

Obviously, the above picture is the best case scenario for survivors, in that never any of their immune people get stolen. It also assumes the cults NEVER try to recruit a person already in the other cult. It also doesnt account for people dying due to potential vigs (I have no idea if theyre actually in the game, but it would make sense).

HOWEVER - If we make it hard enough for the cult to guess who will become the immune person, the vigs know which people not to shoot, and theyre only going to be shooting in cult members or survivors that are not immune yet.

Even if a cult manages to snag a member that is thought to be immune, it does not matter so much if we stick to this plan. The pool of potential cult masters is being reduced on a daily basis, and all shots should be aimed for cult masters regardless.

[Vecna]

Some more very rudimentary statistics

https://imgur.com/a/pk1Oa

Most of these numbers are still assuming we make one person immune per day, and the cult doesnt fuck up recruiting people at the start of the game (although it also shows their odds of failing to recruit).

I cba running more scenario's where these things deviate, but the important take away is:

OUR VOTES MATTER A LOT

DOING SHENANIGANS SO CULT CANNOT PREDICT WHO GETS IMMUNITY IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT

The more people we can get immune, the higher the odds are that our vig(s) will shoot the cult masters

The more people we can get immune, the smaller the pool for possible recruitments, and the higher the possibility that one cult will try to recruit members from the other.

Also, the vig should remain hidden. We have no idea what type of powers the cults can recruit, but if they were to recruit a roleblocker or whatever and the vig gets roleblocked every night, our odds of winning decrease significantly.

[Vecna]

There will be three factions fighting for dominance.

Disregarding all information about potential powers people might have, survivors probably have the best odds of winning, IF they can create and stick to a proper strategy.

Ofcourse, given that people have no idea if or when they will be recruited, creates an......unusual dynamic

[Vecna]

The way I see it: Play to a survivor wincondition.

You might get recruited, but even if that happens your cult master might just eat a bullit at any random time, meaning your team cannot grow anymore and youre very likely to not be able to win the game.

Working as a team full of survivors allows us to take matters mostly into our own hands.

[Vecna]

Your cooperation is neither a requirement nor a prerequisite.

Im da boss by design

[Vecna]

I think that number is probably just there to punish us if we suck at finding the cult masters Venmar. As in, we dont win by default if we get 7 people immune (and can continue to get more people immune) while failing to murder the cult masters.

After a while the pool of recruitable players for the cult will become so small, so if we can keep immunizing players, they no longer have a way of winning, while theyre still alive and kicking.........which would be a weird type of stalemate to achieve.

Drealmerz probably ran some numbers and decided on a number so that cults have a realistic chance of winning if we do not kill their leader.

My strategy should still work, and is probably still somewhat close to optimal.

I agree with some people that stated doing a double wagon towards L1 is probably too risky.

Running up wagons to L2 and having a few people designated as the "HAMMER-COMMITTEE" that decide whether its time to hammer someone in lightning speed, or run up a new wagon, is probably the way to go.

And yes Chickadee, I dont need to be the lone dictator (or even part of it), but it would be nice to at least have some people do it that understand the theory behind the reasoning as to why we need to do this, and to be able to make the right call at the right moment.

[Vecna]

• Players will use their vote to choose who to make immune to recruiting.
  This can be done x# times in the game, a maximum of once per play/pause cycle
  - (instead of lynching - there is no lynching) !

Bolded.

Additional quote from singups thread:

There is a limited # of times players may be voted to immunity, but that # is hidden due to the fact that the information could be used to track. This means that, likely, at a certain point the vote for immunity mechanic will no longer be ieffective but I will not take it out of the game so there is no indication of the pace of effective immunization.

Basically means that Vecna's plan will at some point fail since immunizations at literally any point in the game can stop being relevant. For all we know we only have 1 immunization, there's no way to know at the moment.

Also, whatever that number is, is irrelevant.

My plan is only designed to maximize the number of imunities that we do have to be maximally beneficial for the survivors, and increase the odds that cults try to recruit members from the other cult.

[Vecna]

- A VOICE IS HEARD THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CASTLE -

As we are nearing the end of our "PLAY" phase, I would like to inform all of you that only Virgins may be recruited, the number of you totaling 16 (man you guys need to get laid).

For the leaders of our groupie packs, I would like to inform you that those virgins may be found by searching for those who have a big, red "V" scrawled on their foreheads with lipstick.

Finally, I would like to announce that Creature and Dunkerdoodles have recently been spotted sneaking out of the toolshed out back - hair and clothes all askew Perhaps they should erase the V?

Virgin count: 14

I have some sort of vague information that this may/might/could indeed indicate our time remaining in the play phase might be a lot shorter than we had anticipated.

Maybe some sort of haste is a little useful, since if we dont hammer someone before the phase ends, we dont get to have our immunity.

Lets speedvote all for one target, and cycle it around in a quick fashion over the next 24 hours, and then arbitrarily hammer someone.

[Vecna]

o.o

That. Is an interesting thing.

Did someone use something to make that happen?

Only answer that if your answer will conclusively determine whether or not the two named are cult now, as well as whether or not we can trust that post to be true.

Pretty sure it means theyre confirmed not-virgins, meaning theyre immune to recruitment?

[Vecna]

Indeed. it could also be that they were immunized.

Seems more likely to me that one of the two of them had a power that let them make someone else immune, and would also make themselves immune at the same time, so they used it once they could figure out who they wanted to immunize.

I don't know dunker, so i can't think of why creature would want to immunize them, or why dunker would want to immunize creature. *shrug*

They went into the shack together, lovers + non-virgins seems plausible

[Vecna]

I'll give a million kisses to whomever murders vecna.

My dear lady, that is not at all courteous of though

[Vecna]

VOTE: Cerberus666

This is the first speed bandwagon. Get it to L2 Asap.

[Vecna]

Read more of my posts, try to understand what im actually saying.

If I wanted to screw over the survivors id be doing a whole lotta different stuff.

Maybe I should though

It'd be fucking hilarious

[Vecna]

VOTE: Cerberus666

This is the first speed bandwagon. Get it to L2 Asap.

You do understand that you've basically garunteed your plan not to work, right?

Why do you think you know everything that is going on in this game and can predict how itll work out?

You cannot. Its a chaotic process. This is fine for us survivors.

Its the cult masters that it screws over (if people will cooperate).

Anyways do as u will.

Ill have my entertainment regardless

[Vecna]

Isn't Vecna's "plan" or "strategy" literally just rapidly running up random wagon(s) in a game of chicken with the CL's?

My analysis =

DUBIOUS CHANCE OF SUCCESS

at best

What have we got to loose?

Literally the only good outcome for survivors is to get an immunity on a person thats not recruited.

Getting that, maximum outcome of the phase

If u have a better plan, let us know.

If not, why not go for the best plan to get the best possible outcome?

All im hearing is people going "VECNA SO SUSPICIOUS"

[Vecna]

VOTE: Cerberus666

This is the first speed bandwagon. Get it to L2 Asap.

You do understand that you've basically garunteed your plan not to work, right?

Why do you think you know everything that is going on in this game and can predict how itll work out?

You cannot. Its a chaotic process. This is fine for us survivors.

Its the cult masters that it screws over (if people will cooperate).

Anyways do as u will.

Ill have my entertainment regardless

I don't think I know everything. But by stating this plan, cult is going to wait until you actually show the immunize target. You've basically led town straight into horrible case of WIFOM.

Inferno I thought you were aware of how voting worked and that's why you were confused?

I am aware of how voting works. There's just been so much going on day 1, I'm very unsure of how to best use my vote.

I have no idea how to cash my vote in guys, I'm just too confused by hat's going on. Any suggestions?

I swear you're a CL

Why does this make me CL? Have you seen the thread for this game? Are you somehow suprised that I'm confused by all of this?

Yes, im sure the cult is going to wait very long with recruiting while they have no idea when the play phase will end after that last mod message

[Vecna]

just put him on l-2, then well decide.

simple as that, nothing is set in stone yet.

y'all motherfuckers just need to use that vote a damb lot QUICKER and not treat it like its the holy grail of hard decisions.

place your vote on cerb, then wehn requested be quick as fuck to change it again.

[Vecna]

varsoon cant do basic math, we have a huge headstart and cults will double recruit.

were statistically favoured to outrace the cults if we can manage to land ~70% of our immunizations, disregarding all the unknow shit that we cannot influence with our votes here

[Vecna]

we cant, but it doesnt matter a whole lot.

we find and kill the cult leaders or we try and land as many immunities as wel can to form a bigger immune group than they can recruit.

thats all we can influence as the collective without a massclaim.

itll be upto the individuals with god knows what powers to do funky shit besides that. they can make assumptions aboit whether stuff went through or not.

mqybe later it can be backes up by reads/investigatibes or whatnot. for now, we just gotta try our best to land it.

[Vecna]

Thing is none of us *know* we're immune, besides Creature and Dunker thanks to flavor

suspicious of this sentiment since based on my role I KNOW FOR SURE if I am one or the other since it says my recruit status

its best not to try and extrapolate such things in a drealmerz setup. he likes to fuck with people by making role pms very random in the amount of info they provide

[Vecna]

I have no way of answering your question Venmar

[Vecna]

That phase shift sure seemed pretty uneventful though.

[Vecna]

Oh also, I asked the mod about it, and his responses made it seem like that flavour text about the virgins didnt actually reduce the deadline.

[Vecna]

The other CL "might" be Gamma, or it still could be Varsoon, or maybe it's something I've overlooked. THAT was why I wanted to wait before I exposed Jay.

Yes gamma does give me CL pings. The way he was trying to pocket me on play1, and interacting with me, makes me believe he mightve tried to recruit me (hence his being pissed off, since it probably failed).

[Vecna]

Because it holds priority and, if successful, makes the people I target immobilized and unable to do their action REGARDLESS of the order of the action sent.

I can check if this is a truth or a lie btw.

[Vecna]

Regardless, Jay's claim seems pretty solid and unfakeable (unless cult leaders have other abilities, but that seems unlikely?).

Cerberus' claim is a bit harder to confirm in this type of setup, allthough I kinda feel like I trust his claim.

My suspicion remains mostly on the creature / lifrasyl / Gamma slots for cult leaders

[Vecna]

The element youre missing is that he's obviously claiming an ability that isnt a jailkeeper? And still allows its target to be targetted by other stuff?

[Vecna]

At any rate, later on ill be able to confirm Jay's claim but ull have to be patient a bit longer

[Vecna]

Regardless, Jay's claim seems pretty solid and unfakeable (unless cult leaders have other abilities, but that seems unlikely?).

Cerberus' claim is a bit harder to confirm in this type of setup, allthough I kinda feel like I trust his claim.

My suspicion remains mostly on the creature / lifrasyl / Gamma slots for cult leaders

Why Creature and Lift? Creature is normally frozen as wolf so unless you wish to say he is either frozen or is breaking his scum meta I have to disagree

Creature has the scum meta to be heavily trying to fake his town meta. And he's pretty good at it too. This freezing statement is one I do not recognize as his scumplay at all.

Regardless, there was indeed that mod msg so its unlikely.

[Vecna]

Point remains, we dont really know whether it was just flavour of an ability that ATTEMPTED to immunize them, or flavour for an ability that 100% succesfully immunized them.

The person that used the ability should probably try to confirm that with the mod due to some craftily formulated questions

[Vecna]

^ as in, the person also asking whether it was still possible they were a cult leader and the msg still wouldve come out the way it did.

Just to be on the safe side before we go ruling it out completely and never looking back

[Vecna]

drealmers stated in a pm he has no idea about what a standard cult master entails.....so they could very well also jave some other abilities on too

[Vecna]

Oh hey, look, we just wasted an immunization, assuming that announcement is accurate...and this time the day ended just a few hours later..and last time things went on for like 2 days. So, absolutely no idea what triggers the end of the day.

Its a PR

[Vecna]

Anyways, this is me posting to confirm there are roles in this game that can fuck with the pause/play timer and cause a phaseshift somehow.

[Vecna]

Funny how quickly golden dropped the nsfw thing after getting called out on all fronts

I still think Gamma is a CL.

Reasons:
-He was pissed after EOP1 - Later we learn (or do we?) that only 1 recruit went through. Coincidence? Maybe
-He was buddying up to me all throughout play1. After getting called a potential CL for it, his tone suddenly shifts 180, and he gets snappy with me over anything I say.
-We thought before he was softing he made creature and dunker cuddle up, but this mightve just been a fake announcement. Gamma was happy thinking he softed that though and didnt correct any of it.

Thats pretty much all I got. Cerberus' claim also doesnt really seem very in line with all other roles that are out there, but I couldnt really care less about getting into that.

[Vecna]

I feel honoured that of all people you would choose to try and release me chickadee

[Vecna]

You should probably be shooting for the cult masters though, and unless you believe that cult masters also have the ability to mess with time, I can pretty much prove that aint me.

(no idea why I aint dead - I didnt get to attempt to use my ability last phase, theres someone out there with a similair but more potent version apparently)

[Vecna]

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

[Vecna]

If whoever caused the phaseshift to happen last play is still a survivor you should probably get in contact, so I can attempt vote vs cult recruitment shenanigans and at least try to get a good outcome........but otherwise theres just no point in trying to slow this down and risk a repeat of yesterday.

[Vecna]

The joke --> My ass

[Vecna]

We -could- wait untill 78 hours have passed in the phase, so I can force a pause shift at any moment.

That way is we do our hammer after that period, we can either get an immunize through, or cult risk me just cutting through the next phase without them getting a recruitment.

Im guessing that is pretty much the only use I have for my role as a survivor. Ofcourse, this idea is mostly garbage, since there was another role forcing a phaseshift, way before my ability became even active.

(I have not used my role a single time yet).

[Vecna]

Im not riff-raff and I have not used my power yet.

Drealmerz confirmed that the dead guy was not cult-recruited, and that flips would clearly indicate it if it were the case

[Vecna]

Also, in case you wanna doubt my words.........I was roleblocked during Play2 by Jay, so unless he's bullshitting it couldnt have been me. Also, it was switched before the 78 hour mark, so it couldnt have been me to begin with (unless you wanna believe I just made up the number before I even knew from your own claim it had relevance).

So I guess we have 3 fuckers that can cause phaseshifts (allthough im wondering why it wasnt used by the third person during Play 1 or Play 3 if they dont like the survivors, unless they really do have limited charges on it as well).

[Vecna]

... Did you forget that I in fact DIDN'T get a success message?

Which confirms all the more I didnt even attempt to use my ability? Either way it seems youre misunderstanding your role somewhere (or are full of it), since it seems all the more likely you did in fact stop Chickadee from shooting me

[Vecna]

Venca is major slipping right now.

Explain how im major slipping? Because im just informing you how my role works, and what my actions have been.

I really dont care either way if you believe me, but saying im slipping is just all kinds of trying to make it appear like something its not.

[Vecna]

Also, I am Lips (hence my starting post)

[Vecna]

... Did you forget that I in fact DIDN'T get a success message?

Which confirms all the more I didnt even attempt to use my ability? Either way it seems youre misunderstanding your role somewhere (or are full of it), since it seems all the more likely you did in fact stop Chickadee from shooting me

So you're saying mod error?

Im not saying anything. He claims he targetted both of us during play2, and is now apparently stating he thinks his result means neither of us have an ability.....or something?

He claimed it roleblocks us.

If it does, it proves I did not switch the phase in play2. If it does, it explains why im still alive.

Its upto him to make us understand how his crap works.

But hey, at least -something- is happening.

Pitchforks guys, pitchforks!

[Vecna]

Well my role doesnt have any type of protection against bullets, and I asked dreal quite specifically if there were hidden things - and he said there werent.....

And I kinda doubt anyone wouldve been a doctor on me? Any such roles existing with only 1 vig with limited uses seems kinda doubtfull anyways.

Him actually roleblocking you still seems like the most plausible outcome id say

[Vecna]

Ok so dreal sort of spanked me, and told me that my earlier statement was false, sort of.

Hidden qualities to your role can exist to some extent, apparently

[Vecna]

bunch of cultists with your secret codes the lotta ya

[Vecna]

Lets try a thing

[Vecna]

So yeah, the play swap was me obviously

[Vecna]

So yeah, im gonna go ahead and say the only pro-survivor thing we can still do here is abuse the interplay between phase-swappers and votes - trying to force the cult to recruit early and hope we can immunize someone. Cult probably doesnt wanna risk not doing so before I can use my ability, since me using it just means they dont get to recruit.. Im gonna go ahead and just assume there has to be some use to my role besides cutting the pause phase short.

[Vecna]

Why do you want to be immunised?

Why not? I don't want to be cult. There are two cults, at least one will lose. So if I get recruited, there is a more than 50% chance that I will be forced into the losing team. But if I manage to stay neutral and survive until the end of the game, as a neutral survivor (like most of us were initially) I guess I win. Also, we have to vote someone and by now I'm the only one of whose alignment I can be sure.

if either cult wins, survivors loose

[Vecna]

Im starting to get the impression were seeing a smokescreen here. We have no way to actually know whether PR's = Virgin or =/= virgin guaranteed

[Vecna]

Lemme know if u still want me to try and organize my D1 plan. Not that I really care, but its probably still the most optimal thing we can do here

[Vecna]

Also chickadee, we should do that thing where you hold back submitting your shot so you can be the enforcement polike......

If were gonna do that silly thing and give a shit that is

[Vecna]

Lemme know if u still want me to try and organize my D1 plan. Not that I really care, but its probably still the most optimal thing we can do here

I appreciate your politeness, but I'd rather you do what you think is best without the need to ask for permission first. Please go ahead with your plan if you think it works best.

Im fully aware its not gonna happen. Im just like, searching for stuff to post really.

Anyone need some pretty lips in their cult? Guaranteed to get no more immunize votes through, since aint no plurality vote gonna be ever reached at this pace in 77 hours!

[Vecna]

Oh I kinda forgot this was a thing for the past week or so.

Did someone already look into who got the immunize vote on boonskiies going? Probably some of his cult buddies at the start of that wagon.

[Vecna]

Oh btw, if those messages are fakes, my money would be on it either being cerb or Pork's doing. That message style would pretty much fit either of them (mostly porkens).

[Vecna]

But its probably just the mod

[Vecna]

So much for my thrilling contributions. Guess I was immune to recruitment from the start. How dreary

[Vecna]

I really do hope that message was real and that some shit is finally about to happen

[Vecna]

Dont immunize me please, if I can actually still be recruited i wanna be part of the cool guys club now.

Ya'll are boring, maybe some scheming in a cult chat will liven things up.

[Vecna]

Lifthrasil, you are as neutral as I am potato.

[Vecna]

Ok, guess its time to openly sabotage myself. This shit is boring as fuck.

LET THERE BE BLOOD

[Vecna]

STOP, HAMMERTIME?

[Vecna]

This game has a person in it that has posted once, 25 days ago

[Vecna]

Oi Drealmerz

[Vecna]

OK. Who did the Time Warp again?

YEAH WHICH INSOLENT DOG DID THIS?

[Vecna]

I mean, theres only 2 pages since someone very blatantly signaled what was about to happen, but I guess reading even a page a week is hard.

[Vecna]

All y'all talking motherfuckers are cult members by now. Everyone that is still a survivor has long abandoned mission.

[Vecna]

Vecna, I am not in a cult as far as I know. What should I do?

just pretend to be. make belief is a powerfull weapon

[Vecna]

better do shit quickly, this phase aint gonna last long

[Vecna]

how do people get stuff they want in this game?

recruit me already fuckers, i dont wanna get more losses

[Vecna]

Vecna, that's a losing mentality.

[Vecna]

Hello

[Vecna]

So the bloodbath is coming eh......ok

[Vecna]

I can cycle it to play tonight

If I cba to check this website that is, ofcourse

[Vecna]

Oh right.

Phase shift submitted to mod.

[Vecna]

That was quick

[Vecna]

I hereby designate mathblade as cult leader.

Clearly the slot was important enough to be replaced. Mod action analysis ftw

[Vecna]

so you should probably push through an immunize vote QUICKLY because im pushing this into pause again as soon as I can.

[Vecna]

People havent tried to adapt to a pro-neutral playstyle since the start. nothing is happening in this game. We dont even have enough votes anymore to properly immunize someone without the cults just blocking or redirecting it most likely.

Shit just needs to move along, and ive long given up hope that neutrals can win this. Its most likely a cult vs cult battle and I dont give a shit who wins it. Im just speeding shit up.

If you wanna throw more shade, be my guest. Even if I was cult theres not a shit you can do about it anyway....so, yeah.

Its not like youre actually trying anything to organize a proper vote lift, 78h should be plenty but people dont give a shit

[Vecna]

Less than 24h left

[Vecna]

well, now that ive made sure cult have used their recruitment.....we can actually choose a target without fear of it being recruited.

Now I could be a bastard and just force everyone to sheep me, under threat of just ending the phase otherwise......but that probably is just gonna result in people being obstinate.

[Vecna]

meh actually.....look at me trying to give a fuck when its obviousky not my turn to give a fuck.

VOTE: lifthrasil

[Vecna]

push this vote through, i aint ending it and theres no natural deadline in this game.

[Vecna]

meh its not like we have any reasonable way to deduce whether you are actually still worth immunizing or just a cult leader happily flapping around because we have no way of dealing with you.

[Vecna]

either way, this is my contribution and whether it works out.....im not really caring anymore

[Vecna]

at least one cult should now be under the impression i fucked them, which is good enough for me. aerves em right for not recruiting me.

[Vecna]

Hmmm

[Vecna]

Maybe this is the mods way of telling us were out of immunizes. At the start of play he didnt say anything about "it takes x votes to immunize someone"

[Vecna]

WELCOME TO OBLIVION MOTHERFUCKERS

[Vecna]

Ok im bored and im just gonna hardclaim. I was culted two days ago. My cult has been playing truely dreadfull (like absolutely total shit), even with how the survivors have been playing were only 3 man large.

My cultleader is lifhtrasil, and we just trolled you all bigtime.

Cerberus was his first recruit, and he's just been giving him all kinds of bad advise, resulting in failed recruit after failed recruit.

[Vecna]

lololol j/k!!11one

(obviously)

[Vecna]

also mathblade is so obvious cult it hurts.

[Vecna]

Its a Drealmerz ploy to get us to realize how much we actually miss him

[Vecna]

well......someone should dissolve this game and set us free i think

[Vecna]

Yeah I cannot help but wonder if something went wrong mechanically with this game somewhere resulting in an unpredicted turn or whatever.

[Vecna]

-_-

[Vecna]

Not that I mind you talking about ~stuff~ but my claim was just a hoax because I was bored

[Vecna]

Shit, Vaxkiller caught me

[Vecna]

Also, the mod allowed me to do an early play-shift due to the delays, so thatll happen whenever he's back online

[Vecna]

[Vecna]

Mathblade, you havent gone into any long drawn-out arguments with anyone. Hence I also support the notion that thee areth cult.

Thoughts?

[Vecna]

Maybe one of the cult leaders was one of the people that was actually afk for the first part of the game, and we have very few cult leaders - and just a lot of town that got bored.

Anyways.....im not gonna state when ill use my ability for this play phase.

If cults wanna snatch our immunization away, they will have to willingly take the risk that im just gonna slam my button after 78 hours are up.

[Vecna]

Also Drealmerz implied that there -COULD- still be people not talking about their abilities that might have some impact on the way this game is supposed to be played. He was extremely vague, but I have the feeling were missing out on at least some part of how this game shouldve been played........

Because even though its a Drealmerz setup, at least his setups usually have some type of design behind them that make them somewhat interesting (even though not always understandable to everyone).

He did more or less specifically state were not missing any actual game mechanics as a consequence of not asking enough mod-questions (as a flashback to those people that were in his village in the woods game).

So yeah.............anyone have something to share?

[Vecna]

Maybe one of the cult leaders was one of the people that was actually afk for the first part of the game, and we have very few cult

leaders

members - and just a lot of town that got bored.

Anyways.....im not gonna state when ill use my ability for this play phase.

If cults wanna snatch our immunization away, they will have to willingly take the risk that im just gonna slam my button after 78 hours are up.

[Vecna]

I wonder how much of this game is just taking place in the two cult chats

[Vecna]

were not doing vax either

[Vecna]

People are still dying at times, people refusing to cooperate will paint a great target on their back.

Either way, I think im just gonna fast forward the phase in 12 hours, noone is voting regardless

[Vecna]

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[Vecna]

(were like 90% immunizing cult here, but w/e)

[Vecna]

Im not certain he -was- cult before today, but I find him an excellent target for a cult recruitment today.

Especially considering the fact suddenly a surge of votes came on him, right after the 78h deadline was passed

[Vecna]

im guessing the thing that roleblokcs 3 people or something (even I forgot)

Lets just push through this immunize on Vax. Im starting to suspect that what cerb is saying could be accurate (hence me not being recruited, as a non-human lips type of thing). Maybe cults really just have been trying desperately to try and recruit PR's only to get burned in the effort.

[Vecna]

Or maybe elevator is a fakeclaim to protect Chickadee from the "oh so dangerous public opinion"

[Vecna]

Can you fuckers like do that vote thing?

[Vecna]

Just checking in to see if anything, actually happened.

LOTS have happened, my child, but only those who have faith can see it.

SMITE THE NON BELIEVERS

(not even trying to hide youre both in a cult anymore eh?)

[Vecna]

Or maybe cults prefer safe numbers, over high profile subjects that couldve either already been culted by the other party, or might be prone to eating bullits.

Either way, im just being argumentative for the sake of arguing. Because, boredom.

[Vecna]

Yeah we probably win if we have enough immune people so that cult cannot get the numbers to outnumber us anymore....

Ive been yelling we need to take immunizing serious in a systematic way, but noone has ever been willing to work with me on that, even though I clearly indicated I had the tools available.

[Vecna]

I would think the Narrator is whoever sends the messages through the mod.

Isnt lips the narrator in the movie? Because I only have the timewarp shit

[Vecna]

Well I cycled it to play a bit ago but........yeah

[Vecna]

Thats a lot of votes.

Anyways were doing the 77 hours again, and this time im deciding the target once that time is up (or im just pushing it to pause to screw cult out of a recruit)

[Vecna]

I still kinda feel like the immunize on me is a waste.....cult probably already tried to recruit me, and realized it failed, so now they wanna waste our attempt by putting it on someone already immune. Not that I really care but, eeeh.

Also, if Cerb really did jail me there wont be a phaseshift from me, so u might as well push a vote through really quickly to get it over with.

[Vecna]

In this game: actual scum trying to throw shade on Chickadee, whoms likely to have been immune to cult recruitment since the start

Unvote me

[Vecna]

so basically if cerberus was actually recruited, there were 3 different actions that couldve fucked up -our only way of doing stuff as neutrals-

[Vecna]

VOTE: TGP

luft seems to be onto something there

[Vecna]

someone should look into the voting unity between screen, mutant and cerb

[Vecna]

luckily for me i get two vigs if the phase runs its full duration

[Vecna]

initiating suicide bomber on a50 next phase